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    Re: Irregulars

    I don't remember well where i read it. I will look out for an argument, while...

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    If him did it, his warriors must did it. He cannot be killed thanks to Guardians' wish, so when a Irregular enters he is actually threatened by the idea of dying.

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    Re: Irregulars

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    I don't remember well where i read it. I will look out for an argument, while...

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    If him did it, his warriors must did it. He cannot be killed thanks to Guardians' wish, so when a Irregular enters he is actually threatened by the idea of dying.

    - i dont see how this scan page proves the point of the heads not being able to kill the king .
    - yes , thats also how i understand it, the main reason why he fears irregulars is not only because they are strong , but also because they are not bound to rules and so can go directly to guardians, wich means they can undo the kings rules/laws and even kill him...
    while in contrast regulars arent a bother for him since it makes good soldiers and continue increase his influence since ultimatly they cant really go further than him , in fact the fulfilment of their journey ends with the meeting with the king at the last floor they can reach...

    floor 135th is unbeaten yet or at least we think that for now , but i wouldnt be suprise if there is some people that actually cleared it like some irregulars like ureak and phantom could be one some of the people that passed by this floor but we dont know that for certain yet... one thing is for sure, the king wasnt able to clear this yet, and so its a raw lvl , ruled by a guardian.. since regulars dont go directly to guardians , thus its pretty much impossible for them to go further.

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    Re: Irregulars

    Obviously since the Z&10FH entered the Tower on their own, they're not bound by the "one may not kill Zahard". It only applies to regulars.

    However, this leads to a question: how come Zahard can sleep peacefully, given that? Several possiblities arise:
    1. They've formed an independent rule through a different mechanism (not as the rules of the Tower), which effectively means the same. However, that one is voluntary, hence all other irregulars pose a threat.
    2. It's just a matter of trust. They've been friends with Zahard since long before, and have no interest in killing him whatsoever.
    3. The same as 2. People change, though, and at least one of them is planning to overthrow Zahard.

    I find 3. the most exciting. Imagine how chaotic the world'd become if there were multiple groups going after Zahard independently!
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    Re: Irregulars

    Zahard and 9 head families are immortal. By being immortal, you cannot die, but they can kill themselves each other cause are Irregulars. There's a system that makes the families to challenge each other, the princess system... and they aren't going for the kill. Instead we have someone who helped Zahard to climb like any of the families, this one is the only that wants to kill him, but he can't.
    One of the head of the families isn't immortal... then you can start thinking that he could be like a Judas in the group or something else. He's allowed to live, that makes it strange if there is a faction to defend Zahard.

    Zahard made a contract with all the Guardians in the Tower. If 9 families heads are immortal. Why this people isn't in the same position? would be strange to think that there's no reason for it. Also, why they aren't killing/fighting each other? Another thing that is very weird to me. There's a secret beneath this and Luslec is victim in it i could guess, one of the keys of that secret i think is the relation between a son of a princess like Anak and this red rings with Zahard's crest on them, make them their sons, if i recall correctly.

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    Re: Irregulars

    Pretty much an irregular's so powerful because Good Evening doesn't have to go by the rules and laws of the tower. In the beginning Baam did something he wasn't supposed to do. He created shinsoo without a contract with a guardian's contract which means Baam could use how ever much shinsoo he can hold without consequences. Shinsoo is the basics of everything in the tower anyone that can freely manipulate it becomes a god. That separates a irregular form a regular. Even though Baam's a waveconteoler his mastery of it is extremely proficient.

    Also from Baam fast learning seems to be a traits of an irregular. After seeing an attack just once Baam already knows the basics of the attack and can even use it back at you (the attack is much weaker) Quant stated that the attack that freezes, he said that attack took him Adrian's 50-100 years to do but Baam did it in an instant after Quant taught him the basics of it. If this ability is within all Irregulars then it's no wonder they're so powerful they're learning curve is greater than anything in the tower

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