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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
I liked this chapter and I can't wait to learn which one is the real Naruto (for me it's Sage Naruto but knowing Kishimoto could be even Kcm Naruto who said that he didn't have much time left in that mode...who knows...but i would like the sage one to be the true Naruto for the simple reason that Tobi will be really angry if he discovers to have captured a mere clone...it would be a good strategy on Naruto part).
Btw this is my second post here.I hope to have some good conversations with all of you.
Well this conversation didn't actually start from being allowed to criticize or not...there are bad chapters around, and this chapter had it's bad parts as well...but the convo started from criticizing the work ethic of Kishimoto...who actually gives his best and doesn't take breaks, etc...
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And definitely the cliffhanger was really good...the build up was good as well, though a bit drawn out IMO...not knowing which one is the real Naruto is definitely one of the main questions, but I would go further than that and ask what will be the consequences of his action...will Yonbi fade away and go back into Gedo, or will Yonbi be released? For me that is the main question
Btw yes you're right but i think that Son Goku won't disappear,only the chains that binds him then if Tobi doesn't use some jutsu to avoid his release,Son will help naruto to defeat Tobi,maybe.So I think that Son will be released but it depends if Tobi has resealed the bijuu in their hosts again(bad idea on his part,for me) or if the bijuu are still in the gedo mazo and are connected with their hosts through the rods.
Last edited by TAnaBATA; January 16, 2012 at 11:01 AM.
Hehe, I just thought of something, what if, Naruto somehow gets the sages power, to create life or give life, and he decides to give life back to Itachi.
This would actually be good, imo, we'd get a very good character alive.
But I think this won't happen... now I'm sad...
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Naruto's been boring past few chapters, the only bright sides being Kakashi owning and Sage Naruto's look at the end of this chapter. Kishi should switch to Itachi or Sasuke next chapter, I'm interested in seeing what they'll do or are doing, unless Naruto's gonna start owning.
I'm not really sure what is going to happen when Naruto pulls the plug on Son Goku.
My opinion (which could be way off) is that Tobi hi-jacked Kabuto's jinchuriki by jamming his chakra rod in them. We saw from the Pain arc that the Rinnegan allows you to take over people ala Ino's mind jutsu as long as you can get the rods in them (such as when Nagato tried to do it to Naruto after jamming him in the gut. We have also seen that Itachi was able to 'overwrite' the Edo Tensei with a stronger genjutsu. So ET does seem to have a further weakness in that it can be overridden by stronger techniques.
So if Tobi has over-ridden Kabuto's ET on the former Jins, then theoretically what would happen when he yanks out the rod is that the Jin would no longer have the Rinnegan/Sharingan - and would no longer be under Tobi's control, but would revert to Kabuto's control. Since it would no longer have a chakra rod in it either, then Tobi could not channel his chakra into the Jin - which would mean the tailed beast would be stuck back in Gedo Mazo.
I think Tobi is feeding the Bijju chakra from Gedo mazo into his controlled ET Jins via the chakra rods. That's how they can be 'outside' in the Jins as opposed to being sealed inside Gedo. It never made much sense to me that the Bijju would be in these guys when all the chakra was sealed in the statue. However, if Tobi is feeding them the bijju chakra then it would at least have some logic behind it.
pretty sure in the next chapter naruto will make Son free,then I wonder whether they will have a talk about the bijus (and the sage) or whether they will fight tobi or the other bijus,to help them too,although they may attack naruto as well,differently from Son.
damn dont tell me after he free son, he will go and talk to the other1 and do the same over and over with the tails beast. and then we lose all the good battle, what next, they change it to madara fight. all the kage are beat up and madara is tired. annnnddd pooff end of the battle. we dont get the chance to see notting. past 2 chapter boring
It seems to me that Kishi wants to display how Naruto wins the "heart"/trust of the bijuus, just like he did for the ninjas that have crossed his long path to becoming Hokage material. It's hard to tell how many chapters this will take but it always nice to learn about the other bijuus and their past.
Looking forward to #570!
i think this is all to change the kyuubi...not son goku.kurama will finally open up and the two can finally become a team.what sucks though is the EMS can control the kyuubi and more than likely be all naruto can handle.not for nothing,him beating nagato/pein did have alot to do with konoha ninja helping...even though it was very little.so what is naruto's countermeasure for the ultimate eyes when he faces sasuke...forget tobi.this battle will end with naruto and kurama coming to an understanding...then beating the hell out of tobi.that is when we will finally get his identity...
Neeeeeeeeeh! I wouldn't do that if i where Naruto!
Controlling bijuus requires concentration. Less the beasts he has to control, less focus he needs to spend. At the moment Tobi did not use any Sharingan or Rinengan techniques. So its pretty much a trade off.
And i bet 3 tails will be the last one on the list.