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Thread: Shin Prince of Tennis Anime Discussion Thread [New OVA announced]

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Anime Discussion Thread [Latest Episode: Episode 13]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    Just because I like Sanada does not mean the arguments for Yukimura are good ones. I'm just pointing out the fact they are bad.

    So you're entire argument is based on the sweat on a single panel of Yukimura? I could reply with the page I posted, Sanada was not sweating at all. Also, your image is AFTER Sanada was getting Yip'd, so it doesn't apply.
    Actually, doesn't this prove my point more? After being Yip'ed, Sanada lightly tapped the ball for two or three shots to return the ball. Do you sweat when tapping a tennis ball? And because Sanada was Yip'ed Yukimura would have ended that current point very quickly, no? Also, Sanada is lightly tapping the ball while Yukimura is swinging hard, doesn't that mean that Yukimura should sweat more because he is doing more work?
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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Anime Discussion Thread [Latest Episode: Episode 13]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    It doesn't take rocket science to know that when two players rally for a single point for a long time, they are on equal footing. But, people will always try to over-complicate it. Yukimura did not have any advantage either, until Yips. That last point does not qualify as an example to show how Yukimura had some kind of edge the whole time. There is not enough information to conclude "anything" about the status of Sanada's mental state at that moment. To make assumptions is to "add" to the story things that are not there. We do not know the amount of time in between Sanada's losing the black aura to Yukimura getting the last point, we don't know if Sanada was even conscious, we don't know if Sanada was still yip'd, we don't know anything. The only thing we know is Yukimura got 6 points on a yip'd Sanada, and 1 point "somehow." Like I said, to assume what that "somehow" is, would be to add what isn't there by assumption.
    Nothing suggests there was anything wrong with Sanada.
    He left the court fine. Why make a weak excuse for Sanada losing two points to Yukimura when he wasnt under the influence of Yips?
    They could not have been on equal footing if when there is no Yips or Black Aura that Sanada could not get a point.
    Doesnt take rocket science to work that out.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    What? Tezuka and Chitose were equal until Tezuka got PoGW. It was an even match up until that point.
    NO coz Chitose totally predicted the whole point. Tezuka played into his hands.

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    @Fayte

    Actually we DO know Sanada wasnt Yipped. We saw him break out of it lol. Dont try so hard.
    Sanada was out of yips and couldnt get points of Yukimura. Its that simple.
    Nothing suggests he was being held back by anything.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Anime Discussion Thread [Latest Episode: Episode 13]

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    Nothing suggests there was anything wrong with Sanada.
    He left the court fine. Why make a weak excuse for Sanada losing two points to Yukimura when he wasnt under the influence of Yips?
    It is your assumption that Sanada lost the mystery points to Yukimura AFTER Black Aura, when I have said that all but the last point took place BEFORE Black Aura. You not only can't prove me wrong on this, but the OVA confirmed my interpretation.

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    They could not have been on equal footing if when there is no Yips or Black Aura that Sanada could not get a point.
    Yukimura getting a point does not mean they are not on equal footing lol. That would be absurd to say "the only time a character is equal to another is if they NEVER EVER SCORE A SINGLE POINT AGAINST EACH OTHER. Nobody says that.

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    Actually we DO know Sanada wasnt Yipped. We saw him break out of it
    No, we saw him use Black Aura and thus not be effected by it "in that state." We have no idea if Sanada went back to being yipped when BA disappeared, if they continued to rally (Yukimura's last ground-stroke suggests they did), how long the rally lasted, etc. There is a LOT we don't know about the end of that match. The OVA depicts they had a final all out volley for the last point, in which Yukimura took.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Anime Discussion Thread [Latest Episode: Episode 13]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    It is your assumption that Sanada lost the mystery points to Yukimura AFTER Black Aura, when I have said that all but the last point took place BEFORE Black Aura. You not only can't prove me wrong on this, but the OVA confirmed my interpretation.
    The OVA isnt canon. Doesnt confirm shit.
    We see Sanada calmly turn around and walk back. Im pretty sure he was fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    Yukimura getting a point does not mean they are not on equal footing lol. That would be absurd to say "the only time a character is equal to another is if they NEVER EVER SCORE A SINGLE POINT AGAINST EACH OTHER. Nobody says that.
    We went through this in your Black Aura thread.
    At 5-1, or 4-1, Black Aura was used. Re-read it or I will have to bring the link here.
    The score count follows the two until then, then Black Aura arrives. We dont see 6-1.

    Yuki got both available points. Yukimura > Sanada when that match began. Completely different now but at that specific time Yukimura > Sanada.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    No, we saw him use Black Aura and thus not be effected by it "in that state." We have no idea if Sanada went back to being yipped when BA disappeared, if they continued to rally (Yukimura's last ground-stroke suggests they did), how long the rally lasted, etc. There is a LOT we don't know about the end of that match. The OVA depicts they had a final all out volley for the last point, in which Yukimura took.
    The fact your using the OVA to judge disappoints me Fayte. After it let Sanada score with just Zan.
    The OVA is made for fans who dont really read the manga.

    The anime and manga for SPoT are nearly two different stories.
    The diferences between them are insane.

    Why on earth would you presume the opponent went back to Yips when we see Sanada calmly turn around and walk back????
    He was NOT on Yips lol.
    Last edited by Airgrimes; July 03, 2012 at 03:00 AM.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Anime Discussion Thread [Latest Episode: Episode 13]

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post

    The fact your using the OVA to judge disappoints me Fayte. The OVA is made for fans who dont really read the manga. The anime and manga for SPoT are nearly two different stories. The diferences between them are insane.
    Not all of the filler content is irrelevant to the canon. For example, I find nobody complaining or arguing that Sanada's eye patch in the manga was NOT the result of what was shown in the anime. I find no problems with believing that's what happened. The anime can fill in the gaps sometimes. In this instance, the gap I purposely looked for was if the score was 6-0 when Sanada used BA to make it 6-1, as opposed to your INTERPRETATION (remember, you can't be dogmatic about something that you're assuming), and that is how the OVA interpreted the manga. That has nothing to do with Yukimura losing points to Zan, because obviously that didn't happen in the match. Filling in the gaps of what was not "shown" in the manga is different.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Anime Discussion Thread [Latest Episode: Episode 13]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    Not all of the filler content is irrelevant to the canon. For example, I find nobody complaining or arguing that Sanada's eye patch in the manga was NOT the result of what was shown in the anime. I find no problems with believing that's what happened. The anime can fill in the gaps sometimes. In this instance, the gap I purposely looked for was if the score was 6-0 when Sanada used BA to make it 6-1, as opposed to your INTERPRETATION (remember, you can't be dogmatic about something that you're assuming), and that is how the OVA interpreted the manga. That has nothing to do with Yukimura losing points to Zan, because obviously that didn't happen in the match. Filling in the gaps of what was not "shown" in the manga is different.
    But the Anime changed scorelines aswell. So even THIS doesnt prove either of our theories I hope you realize.
    Kikumaru and Oishi was like 8-6 in the anime. Fuji VS Yuuta was like 7-2.
    The scoreline change that anime doesnt really prove much.

    As for filling in, you make a good point, but look at the heavy rackets they used.
    I dont think thats how they trained, you really think Ryoma was physically the strongest guy there?? Stronger than Momoshiro, Kawamura, Sanada, Kabaji and Tanishi?
    LOL he cant be but he was lifting the racket better than everyone.
    The OVA is so non-canonic it cant even solve things like this.

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    @Fayte you carefully select what to quote, what to do you have to say to Sanada calmly walking back to his baseline once he was out of Black Aura?

    When Ryoma was fully yipped or Fuwa, they were either standing perfectly still or on the ground.
    Nothing suggests Sanada was yipped.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Anime Discussion Thread [Latest Episode: Episode 13]

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Anime Discussion Thread [Latest Episode: Episode 13]

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    Yep, Hara Tetsuya. Any information about SPOT second season?

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Anime Discussion Thread [Latest Episode: Episode 13]

    I'm keeping an eye out for it, but so far I haven't been able to find any info on a second season yet.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Anime Discussion Thread [Latest Episode: Episode 13]

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    Is this an image of Taira Two Years Prior To The Storyline?
    Since he is in the same year as Yamato Yuudai.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Anime Discussion Thread [Latest Episode: Episode 13]

    Well it is Taira, but I don't know if it's 2 years prior to the storyline. I guess we'll see some flashbacks in the 3rd OVA when we get the Shiraishi vs Kenya match.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Anime Discussion Thread [Latest Episode: Episode 13]

    Yeah, the next OVA focuses on Shiraishi and Zaizen's match during the U-17 elminations and more than likely features flashbacks to the ex-Shitenhoji captain(s).

    I swear, Shitenhoji gets so much love. Then again, they basically are Super Fudomine.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Anime Discussion Thread [Latest Episode: Episode 13]

    Now look at this!!

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Anime Discussion Thread [Latest Episode: Episode 13]

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandnewkid View Post
    Yeah, the next OVA focuses on Shiraishi and Zaizen's match during the U-17 elminations and more than likely features flashbacks to the ex-Shitenhoji captain(s).

    I swear, Shitenhoji gets so much love. Then again, they basically are Super Fudomine.
    We wish lol. You mean Oshitari Kenya.

    I honestly think the New PoT Anime guys are doing the anime for 100% Fan Service.
    Im now open to a Fuji + Tezuka OVA for when Tezuka goes TMnK and drubs Fuji, then we get a flashback of how they are best buds like we have got with Oishi/Kikumaru, Yukimura/Sanada, Shiraishi/Oshitari etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Featherwolf View Post
    Now look at this!!

    Spoiler show
    Thank the heavens!!!
    Maybe its Mouri VS Kenya, when Mouri wipes him 6-0. Hopefully the anime shows us why he was in the Top 10 or something.
    Maybe the Anime guys at New PoT will win me over again.

    Ive honestly only enjoyed Atobe VS Irie, Ryoma VS Migihashi, OVA 1, and thats about it. The OVA's are looking great.
    Maybe this OVA will make me like Mouri as a character, already love Hara so I'll be glad to see more of him.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Anime Discussion Thread [Latest Episode: Episode 13]

    They look older in anime form, but still, they're doing this like a preview when the first stringers appear. I don't think they'll change them that much tough.

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