Danzou and Shisui WTF moment

[kkck]

Well, as we saw earlier danzo did kinda have very skilled subordinates under him. A coordinated planned attack could conceivably result in shisui loosing an eye to danzo. Lets remember danzo was a hokage candidate from his youth, he was not weak ninja in no plausible way.

[Murdock]

Well, as we saw earlier danzo did kinda have very skilled subordinates under him. A coordinated planned attack could conceivably result in shisui loosing an eye to danzo. Lets remember danzo was a hokage candidate from his youth, he was not weak ninja in no plausible way.

why taking only one eye then? Plus I think he would have suffered more serious injury had he been under attack...

[gnut]

just a thought,if he was in root...this may have been an order.let's not forget how danzou had control over sai,keeping him from giving up intel.plus we found out in the end that danzou was true to konoha...so him being ordered by danzou isn't far-fetched.this in itself may have driven him to entrust the other eye to itachi...just to protect konoha from danzou.in addition,danzou taking one eye still leaves a perfectly capable shisui to handle himself...we see this with tobi fighting top-notchers with one eye(that he was utilizing).i would think that shisui was smart enough to know that to give danzou that much power...he would have to have some countermeasure(even if it was never to be used).
forfeiting his life to itachi is maybe a sign that he knew itachi was destined to be more talented than himself in the future...otherwise i imagine he would have stuck around to protect konoha himself.itachi was the genius that figured out that sasuke would more than likely become the true threat to konoha and not danzou...maybe because he knew he could defeat danzou but sasuke was a different issue.

[Murdock]

didn't root usually kidnap the children and raise them as part of the root ... it seemed to me that Shisui was just regular Uchina clan member meaning living there etc. He was supposed to be at clan meeting ... IMO not root but i guess it is the most plausible explanation

[gnut]

didn't root usually kidnap the children and raise them as part of the root ... it seemed to me that Shisui was just regular Uchina clan member meaning living there etc. He was supposed to be at clan meeting ... IMO not root but i guess it is the most plausible explanation

if this is the case...then this would strengthen the fact that if he was ordered by danzou,then it would have been no sweat to give up the eye.just look at sai,no matter how much he wanted to talk to kakashi,naruto or sakura about certain things he couldn't.naruto is the only character that is totally oblivious of how cold and cruel the ninja society really is.right down the line from sarutobi to even his father minato...shisui and danzou were no different.let's not forget there was a lot of covert backstabbing going on during this time...maybe like itachi,shisui may have been a double agent.third hokage may have more to do with this than we think...we're finding out that he too had his fair share of secrets....

[chilibun]

I could've sworn Itachi said Shisui gave the eye to Danzou.

Also, where was it stated he was possibly the best Uchiha when he was around? I hope you guys aren't saying that because of a jutsu he can only use once every 10 years. He was stated to be one of the strongest, and was known as Shisui the teleporter, but I'm not about to give him title as King of Uchiha Clan until I know a little more than that. Heck, he was Itachi's subordinate wasn't he (assuming he was in the same ANBU cell as Itachi). Or was he a member of ROOT?

Itachi said by the time he and Shishui met up, Danzou had already "taken" one eye. That usually implies it wasn't given willingly. Shisui is dubbed the the greatest genjutsu user of the Uchiha clan by Ao and B, I think, but such descriptions are usually just hyperboles. Lets just say he is really, really damn good at genjutsu. I don't think it was ever stated how often he could use Kotoamatsukami, but it couldn't possibly be used often due to it being a MS tech, which uses lots of chakra and causes blindness. Itachi could only use it once every decade, probably because the eye was not his. Danzou could use it once a day due to having Senju cells, though his version didn't seem nearly as powerful. Shisui should also be significantly older than Itachi because he was already pretty well known and has fought against Ao and possibly Kumo. Itachi killed his clan when he was 13, so I can't imagine Shisui accomplishing all that without being at least 3-4 years older than him.

[gnut]

just a guess...but what if he was considered a master at genjutsu because he COULD use it without consequence.maybe this is the reason his eyes are such a sought after item...by everyone in the manga.i would imagine to control someone it would have to be a long lasting jutsu...just my guess...

[mrsticky005]

that's the point I can't somehow believe that Danzou would be able to overpower Shisui - Even elders from Uchiha clan stated he was the most talented (they kinda forgot about Itachi)

still they kinda shared same believes (protecting village within the shadows) so Shisui might have given him the eye ... or if he was in the root division or just ANBU but then again Uchiha wouldn't need Itachi to get into ANBU ... i don't know it is all kinda fishi

You underestimate Danzo. Danzo is no weakling. Even without Shisui's eye and Izanagi
Danzo is still Kage level. All Danzo needs to do is touch Shisui and he'll be paralyzed and then after knocking Shisui out he takes his eye. There's no defending against this because Danzo wouldn't be stupid enough to attack Shisui openly. It could be something as simple as a handshake.


Though it's more likely Shisui just gave him the eye.

[Delbi]

Danzou could have easily had half of Root ambush Shisui if he couldn't fight and kill him himself. Poison is also another likely option. These are ninja we are talking about, so nothing is out of the realm of possibilities.

Or, Shusui could have been tricked into giving him his eye, you never know.

[Rikudou King]

Probably wouldn't have even needed to be tricked. He could have listened to Danzo for the same reason Itachi listened, as it was for the best of Konoha. Heck, if he and Itachi could gain MS, that could have meant there were other Uchihas with MS and Shisui was worried his eyes would be taken for EMS.

[xXan]

I had a chat with Kishi some time ago and he told me what happened.

Shisui tried to use his MS genjutsu on Danzou to make him rip his own aye out because he hated the man but at the last second Danzou put up a mirror right in Shisui's face... The Uchiha dude ended up ripping his own eye out as a result....

[DementedKirby]

I think that Shisui, like Itachi, collapsed under the pressures of the clan wanting a coup. Danou probably first asked Shisui to kill the clan but Shisui most likely bailed and ceded the mission to Itachi, instead giving his eye to Danzou just in case. Shisui then killed himself in order to awaken Itachi's Mangekyou and then told him to get his eye and disappear his corpse.

Danzou barely handled Sasuke. I seriously doubt he handled Shisui. The eye was given and not taken.

[chilibun]

Danzou barely handled Sasuke. I seriously doubt he handled Shisui. The eye was given and not taken.

Lol. Danzou has an army behind him. He doesn't have to duel Shisui for his eye, nor is he that type of man. He's a true ninja of the shadows, where anything goes. Plus, there really is no reason for Shisui to willingly give his eye to Danzou. The manga also suggests that his eye was taken from him. Itachi's dialogue specifically says that by the time he and Shisui met up, Danzou had already TAKEN one of his eyes and that he forfeits his life to prevent further CONFLICT over his eyes.

[Darkp]

Like chilibun said , danzou had a freaking army , even 2 of those lackeys capable of fighting head to head with TOBI and injured him . Besides of that shunsui ms powers seem suits for 1vs1 or 2vs1, if the number goes 4-5 , his mind control , genjutsu abilities would be nullified .

[Rikudou King]

True that Danzo could have used an army against Shisui, but then the question rises why would Danzo allow Shisui to escape with one eye remaining and why would Shisui still be pro-Konoha? seeing how Itachi was willing to kill his clan for Konoha, Shisui giving up a single eye doesn't seem like it'll be a hard choice.