Naruto 570 Discussion

[Rikudou King]

excuse my ignorance,but what is a kawarmi? and "normal bunshins" means "not-physical clones",right? well,if you mean techniques,there's no need to use them,since they are weak technique,contrariwise the soldier pills should help this war a lot,especially in kakashi's case,since he hasn't got much chakra.

Kawarmi is the body switching technique. They aren't that weak since we've seen powerful ninjas use them during Part 1. Kakashi used it several times. We may not have seen the same for the regular clones, but even with that we saw how useful it could be with Sakura.

[mattiaildivino]

sakura was still a genin,in this war we haven't seen genins yet(such as konohamaru),aside from naruto,obviously. I think in this war stronger techniques are needed,rather than the ones we saw in part 1. about soldier pills,I'd rather say that there aren't stronger pills,this is the reason why we should see the alliance using them.

[Rikudou King]

The Zetsu clones aren't exactly powerhouses. Or tactical geniuses. A simple technique to confuse them should work just fine. And presumably, they are using the soldier pills, since we know they been fighting for quite a while without rest.

[Thabor]

With the Hanzou part you are purposefully forgetting the part in the page you yourself linked where Hanzou says "You three are strong..."

I'm not forgetting it at all. Hanzou says it only to outline how much stronger he is. They didn't want to use the title, it was a condition of letting them live.

I know Goku said in the translation he ate Naruto. But we all know the definition of "eat" and its not simply having something in you're mouth and not chewing or swallowing.

Ok, so now you are going to claim to know better than the author what is going on..

What evidence suggests the Bijuu had hatred before they were enslaved?

http://www.mangareader.net/93-375-14...apter-370.html

The frogs characterized the Kyuubi age old natural disaster which occurs whenever human hatred collects and fester, you think they used that description because the Kyuubi was friendly and playful prior to being imprisoned by the Shodai Hokage?

There might be other Ninja but a lot of the time Hachibi and Naruto are using telepathy. So... it doesn't matter. And like I said the Hachibi has been tamed so its a none issue.

You really are all over the place on this one. Are the Bijuu friends to each other and enemies to the ninja or not?? How does it not matter? If the other Bijuu hate ninja so much, you think they would still see someone working with the enemy as a friend?? Whichever way you try to spin it, it doesn't make sense for them to be using their first names.

Ok so we're going to say that these Bijuu who have lived or retain their consciousness since the day they were split from the Juubi, that have a vast understanding of the world, can speak are stupid? They're far older than any of the toads or dogs alive Naruto or Kakashi has.

We have no idea how old the great toad is.. And just being old doesn't make you intelligent. There is no evidence they have any greater an understanding of the world than Naruto and Kakashi. And certainly Pakkun is every bit as capable of giving battle advice as any Bijuu.

Alright, if you want to pretend like Naruto is the new Anikin Skywalker and went to the dark side anything I say to try to convince you otherwise is a waste of time. Despite his darkside deconstructing and floating away upwards, and not merging into good Naruto. http://www.mangareader.net/93-51828-...apter-495.html

No not the new Anakin.. He didn't let his darkside simply take over. Read the pages before that.. You really think saying "thanks, I wouldn't be here without you" isn't accepting his darkside?

And your last point about Naruto not being dead if the Kyuubi consumed him... I utterly disagree. The Kyuubi is a mass of chakra... a chakra monster. Naruto is a human being. You can't say they'd just switch places, that makes no sense.

And yet that is exactly what happened during the fight with Pein..

[mattiaildivino]

The Zetsu clones aren't exactly powerhouses. Or tactical geniuses. A simple technique to confuse them should work just fine. And presumably, they are using the soldier pills, since we know they been fighting for quite a while without rest.

ahah I thought the same thing,although I'd like kishi to show that. and there are some things I didn't understand,such as why neji was so tired while hinata wasn't,mayhap neji didn't get the soldier pill... at least they should have stated something like "neji has defeated 3 times the number of enemies the 3 of us(team 8) defeated" to justify his "weakness"