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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
The presentation of this arc is such an "absolute out of the park grand slam home run" that it's hard for me to even consider the substantive parts but there is one thing that stood out anyway.
I may be late to the proverbial party on this one, but I never really considered the possibility that Hilda might really LIKE Oga; and it's starting to look to me like she does. For a long time now sparks have been flying between her and Aoi, and I always dismissed those as 100% Beel related, could there have been more to those? What do you guys and gals think?
Are these feelings really there? And, if so, how far back do you think they go?
Last edited by Jammin; January 19, 2012 at 12:53 PM.
Personally, I think the author is leaving it ambiguous for the readers to decide. Its really difficult to tell, with Hilda talking about how she's happy the way things are right now, and now she's even felt some jealousy when she met Aoi. But I feel like there's more to the story than whether or not Hilda likes Oga.
For one thing, I find it really odd that she would say she's happy the way that things are. Normally, a person who's lost their memories would really want to get their memories back. Not so that they can go back to being who they were, but even just to understand where they came from. I find it interesting that Hilda is actually reluctant to do so. I would be miserable if I couldn't remember who I was...and I'd be even more so if I was told I had a husband and a baby that I couldn't even remember loving! I think the reason why Hilda is reluctant to remember is because that would mean remembering her initial goal when she came to the human world, and actually remembering she is a demon maid and not really the mother of Baby Beel.
Another thing I find interesting is that Hilda seems to be giving Oga a lot of attention that she normally would give Beel. Worried that he got a cold, dressing him warmly...to me this seems to suggest she's misplaced her strong feelings for Beel and assumed she was suppose to do that for Oga. On top of that, everyone is under the assumption that Oga and Hilda have a relationship that resulted in Beel, which is farthest from the truth. Maybe the real reason everything feels so topsy turvy is because no one has been able to spit out the truth, and perhaps no one knows which truth they should say. >_>
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I mean, don't you think her reaction here is a bit suspicious?
You don't dress like that, with a tress as well, without knowing it. Also, you don't dress in an unknown place BEFORE asking yourself: "Where am I?". It looks to me like she took Oga's words as a sudden chance to put up a front and pretend she's not the same old Hilda. Also, all her phrases about not wanting her memories back smell of... well, lies.
If I can make a prediction... Oga will soon get a kiss, along with a: "Hey, I just got my memories back! What a coincidence! "
Oga will get pissed and he will end up running out in the cold again...
Back to what u say, sometimes i´m not sure is this Hilda or could it be Yolda in a Body switch. I didn´t know at all, cause the only person who knows Furichi as a perv could be Yolda. Hilda say befor Furichi is not even a slave under the master.
If this is really Hilda with amnesia, then i think yolda will come or we visit the House where Hilda was growing up. What would mean back to the Demon world and one step near to the royal family and Background of the Story.
But it´s more interisting that she cares about Beel healthy more then befor. This is really interisting that she never keep an eye on this befor. Possible about there loosing memorie that she is a demon and Baby Beel too. How will her Demon Power and memories come back, that will be an interesting part in this Arc.
Another Point is the how Hilda play the Wife role and be so friendly, like she never do something different else. Also is was implied befor, that Hildas Familie was one of the best. So how can be a so friendly and nice person deep in the Heart, so a hard and cold Demon Maid???
What i don´t like on this Chapter is that Hilda remember Furichi without even know Beel. And that creepy perv Furichi are only funny from Lamnia or Red Tails. But i say it befor better that also Furichi get his chance to introduce himself new. XD
Comedy gold just like I said last week. Truly some good moments are headed towards us next week, when Kuneida gets out of her confused state lol.
Funny thing is that if Hilda does go back to "normal" I think she will still have some feelings for Oga as a result of her experience as Hilda "the human wife". Did you guys notice that Hilda's lips were more pronounced in the chapter and she smiled so much?
Hilda's memories arc will definitely be comedy filled but I expect some serious moments as well.
For example the way Hilda has become an cute innocent girl while retaining that somewhat harsh edge, like she has shown with Furichi and Aoi, helps it seem like we aren't seeing a new personality we're seeing a part of the old Hilda that she never allowed herself to show. Which makes every cute thing she does even funnier, because when she gets her memory back...
But the best part is how hilariously uncomfortable all the characters are with this whole situation. Jumping from a more action oriented arc to more of a a love comedy situation has completely thrown everybody out of their comfort zone. Ordinarily tough characters like Oga are completely panicked by this Hilda.
An arc to help us understand Hilda's character better has been long overdue but using amnesia in this way to do it carried the potential to be nothing short of a master stroke. And I think the hilarious way it's been executed so far has lived up to, or even exceeded, that potential.
So I stand by my sweeping statement of "This is the best arc EVER!"
Last edited by Jammin; January 20, 2012 at 12:58 PM.
It would be nice to see those two (Hilda and Oga) kiss somehow in next chapters and how will Hilda's feelings will change after she remembers everything. I mean if she will feel some kind of uncertainty towards Oga after that.
But it could be the right Time to show a little more Background from Hilda. Befor it was as Alan, next will be Lamnia.
Panel 16 was epic...Wolverine's Weapon X combo special. Couldn't stop laughing at Creepichi. The question is, how would she regain her memories? I am calling for some really amusing method. I just hope it wont be dragged for months.
What I'm hoping they'll suggest is for them to revisit her childhood. Where she grew up, family, friends, etc... So Oga might have to go visit the demon world and what are, in essence, his in-laws.
Furuchin is the heart, guys~
I like your posts too, Black Hawk. You make a good point, this would be the perfect time to learn about Hilda's background, her relationship with the other maids and her sister...it would be highly relevant because at the moment Hilda doesn't even realize she's a demon. She just thinks she's a simple girl married to a punk. Which makes me wonder...what if Hilda meets Alaindelon? Or Dr. Forcas? Oh heck, lets through in En and the other maids as well...I think it would be hilarious explaining to stepfordwife!Hilda that she's in fact a high-caliber demon maid.
Last edited by Teeba; January 21, 2012 at 03:13 PM.
I just wonder how long will Oga wait to go see the demon doctors, and will this new arc go to the demon world again?
While I'd love for Oga and company to go to the demon world again, I'm not entirely sure if that's the key to bringing Hilda's memories back. I think it'll come back via character development (comedic violence FTW!).