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Oda has never shown the map of OP clearly, if you look at it carefully, it doesn't make a single sense for me... Some jap need to ask him about this.
I love such kind of Chapters!
Fanservice you say? I am a fan!
Cant wait to read it again when it comes out in a Manga Volume!
Because after all that is what its made for. for whole Volumes like for 10-11 Chapters at once.
People often seem to forget that, thats why theyre dissapointed in single chapters...
Well i say it wouldve been boring if it was rushed too much. Think about.
"And what the hell is the reverse mountain doing near the NW?"
You are questioning that, but post minutes later yourself? Oo
Pirates do that for 1. preparation because W/N/E/S Blues < Paradise < New World. If they can't even handle Paradise they will have no chanse at all in the NW. It's likely that all Supernova got their high bounty on their way to SA, just like Luffy did. There is your error in reasoning.
And 2. because it seems like the Reverse Mountain is the only entrance.
The map I edited and you quoted is a sketched version of the real map, the RedLine goes around the world, it has no end. That is how it looks like! The New World was always on the other side of where the Mugiwaras entered the Grandline and met Laboon.
You could have just googled "One Piece Redline", but even that's to hard nowadays, is it?
Last edited by Schabrak; January 25, 2012 at 06:29 PM.
If capone would have went through the calm belt instead of goin down reverse mountain, then this would have happened to him. http://eatmanga.com/index.php/Manga-...&size=original .
Now if Luffy and them were scared shitless from this scene and ran back to the entrance of reverse mountain, i doubt that Capone would be able to cross the calm belt with any luck what so ever.
Marijoie is on the other part of the red line, ie the part that connect the right and the left side of this map. Reassure me, do you know how to transform a globe into a planisphere ? Cause it seems you make elementary school mistakes here.
As I asked you, where do you put the new world if it is not where it is shown here ?
Like said by other, you can not go from west blue to new world directly because there is the calm belt in the middle which is what we are telling you since the start.
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About the maps... Weren't the zones always more or less treated like zones of the surface? When Sanji bought the Elephant Tuna there was already a hint that there are underwater currents that can make sea living creatures go from one Blue to the other even though.
And on the way down to FMI, we just learned that the Redline is a HUGE collection of close islands. So possible there's still other routes out there but only Reverse Mountain and Mariejois/FMI.
This OP chapter was original even though Oda reused the island whales (they're named in one of the databooks). And another chapter of a different manga (I'm not calling it by name) is called epic because the author reuses the Goku vs. Recoom or Gohan SSJ2 vs Perfect Cell Kamehameha standoff...
Oda only shows the parts of the map, we need to understand where islands are in the world of One Piece. Like in Chapter 522 when Oda showed the place of Impel Down, Amazon Lily, Enies Lobby, and Marineford.
Haha and here I was expecting blue skies and sunny weather xD
Shows what I know.
We've been waiting for this moment for a long time
This chapter makes up for a very poor (imo) story arc.
Last edited by natli; January 25, 2012 at 07:22 PM.
Am i reading this right or did everyone already forget how the OP world is built?
I wish i could draw some pictures, but i cannot so will try to explain this.
Think of the world as an entire ocean ("All blue? ") and that over the course of history a gigantic continent split the ocean into two areas...this continent is now known as the red line. Think of the red line similar to the equator of our real world.
Due to the ocean's currents and weather pattern, the grand line was created. Think of the grand line as your prime meridian.
This separates the four seas of one piece if you were to divide the hemispheres in half...north blue and west blue would the northern hemisphere, while south blue and east blue would be the southern hemisphere.
The grand line is surrounded on both sides by calm belts, so to navigate to the grand line, a sailor would have to travel in the opposite cardinal direction of their sea...so from east blue they traveled west, a pirate from south blue travels north. Eventually they get into the corner where reverse mountain is located. At one point there's three directions, the red line, the calm belt (which we saw SH enter that time) and the mountain itself, making the mountain the only navigated route.
Why not just cross the calm belts? Seriously? We've been over this a ton already. The calm belts are a nest where sea kings dwell, especially the largest that exist. You can see in the calm belt spread how small going merry is compared to these things, they're absolutely massive. There's also no wind to sail with, which leaves pirates and average sailors unable to explore the calm belt. In OP lore there are probably stories of people sailing to a place until there is no wind to navigate, then never seen again. Other than the marines and Hancock's ship, we've yet to see any capable of crossing the calm belts. What this means is any pirate would have to travel to reverse mountain to enter the grand line.
Once on the grand line they're basically going in literally a line of sorts to the red line where marijoa is located. They go through FI and enter the New World. The New World is completely isolated because you can't enter from the other side of reverse mountain, and the calm belt keeps random pirates from north or west blue simply crossing it to make it to the new world also, meaning the only people who enter the new world are marines and pirates who have been strong enough to make it through their entire route on paradise. And logically we can assume any pirates who would happen to make it to nw and aren't strong enough to handle their own would probably join a yonkou crew, or find themselves and early grave anyway. If it were any easier, pirates would be hanging out around raftel all the time and there would be no real adventure would there?
How could this happen! I made a huge error. So it's a one wall that goes around the globe. I owe you all a big apology Thank really for helping understand this
Give me a break here. Do you expect me to instantaneously understand that the whole world is separated by a colossal Wall-of-China without a map to illustrate that aspect?
Law was able to cross the Calm Belt from Amazon lily.
Notice, if this were the end of the NW, there should be an island: Raftel.
thanks for explaining it... i really didn't feel like doin it myself. it's not even hard to understand how the OP world works... it's kinda boring still talking about this though when it's been explained over and over again... can we all get back to the actual chapter... How long do you think smoker will wait before he realizes that the mugiwara aren't goin to be surfacing there? haha. wish i could see his face.
At least you understood, it is alright! Yes, Raftel should be around there, it is unknown why pirates can't reach there, maybe the weather or Raftel is a sky island or the younkous prevent this...
Law was able to go through the calm belt due to Kujas scout and probably that was just the begging of the belt anyway. Marines also go through the calm belt. Again rookies must all go through the reverse mountain since even if they had a marine ship one Seaking would be too much a weak guy, and go directly to NW might be dangerous...
Last edited by ErosVp; January 25, 2012 at 07:38 PM.
Whoa's folks are bustin out the maps!
Anyway, I laughed when it turned out it was a storm on the surface and everybody was saying how bad it was only for luffy to say perfect! XD good ol one piece! good ol funny one piece!