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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 334 Discussion / 335 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by heron bpv View Post
    For someone as manipulative as him, have people come to talk to him and ask things is actually a best case scenario. It just means he will have that much more pawns to do his bindings and advance his plans, as long as he manages to manipulate the circunstances to his favor. Which seens to be his specialty, as the manga showed so far. And to make matters worst, each time he succefully does this, his image of a caring and passionate chairman will increase, to the demise of those people who are trying to actually confront him and bring his "evil" down.
    And saying that Netero is a dictator... it's blaphemy! =P
    On the contrary, as the manga shows during the hunter exam and quimera ants arc, as well as during his funeral, he was greatly respected by quite the majority of the hunters.
    Let's say the temp Hunters are on strike and demand a 50% increase in wage and better benefits.

    If it's Netero or Gin as chairman he'd probably just brush them off, if he'd even bother with such a thing like that.

    But Pariston, who is clearly a great negotiator, probably would be expected to work his magic to those guys.

    Now of course that also represents an opportunity, but I think his plans go beyond just getting a few more votes at this point. He's obviously planning for something big but due to his area of expertise (politics) and his image, he'd have a hard time saying 'no' even to rather mundane things.

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    Some more thoughts on Pariston...

    It's obvious bureaucracy was what give him his power in the first place (he stood up for all the weak guys to have the power he has today), but at some point he's going to move to bigger things than just winning support of some random no name Hunters. Basically right now he's like someone who just won a lottery and all his friends come out from nowhere expecting favors. His power base is obviously quite large and all these guys would be planning to cash in on Pariston's victory. Yet the weak guys who are his power base obviously don't further his plans at this point (the fact he got the cocoons suggest he's looking for beings with more power now).

    Given his past history, he can't just ignore those guys and would have to expand considerable energy just to reassure all his existing followers that's he's still supporting them. This is a pretty significant disadvantage consider the Hunters normally are some kind of oligarchy, i.e. it's expected people at the top (Zodiacs, Netero, etc) get to have everything their way, but this doesn't apply to Pariston because of how he got up there.

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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 334 Discussion / 335 Prediction

    You just forgot the 18 missing hunters, right Phan?
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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 334 Discussion / 335 Prediction

    I'm still trying to figure out what Pariston wants to do with 5000 ants. From the clues in the last few chapters I'm currently mulling over 2 possibilities:

    1) Pariston wants to modify the hunter exam so that Chimera Ants can participate to become Hunters. The Ants in this case would be considered on a par with Humans.

    2) Pariston wants to modify the hunter exam so that Chimera Ants are one of the stages. New hunters have to overcome an Ant as part of the exam. The Ants in this case would simply be testing materials.

    The two examples above would result in very different and diverging storylines. Also, if Pariston doesn't get his way, would he release 5000 Ants into the general population, or would he use them against the Hunter Organization itself? I think we are likely going to find out just how evil Pariston can be in future chapters.

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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 334 Discussion / 335 Prediction

    Why Pariston would need to modify the exam? All those cocoons are already ideal for hunting. And Mind you, there is already monster like creatures living with humans already so that wouldn't be an issue.
    Last edited by Uriel; February 04, 2012 at 11:12 PM.
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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 334 Discussion / 335 Prediction

    There are rules governing the hunter exam. I'm not sure what he wants to modify, but at present, I've only seen humans participating, even though there are some non-human intelligent beings on this world.

    In the first case, a rule change might be needed to allow non-human participants in the exam.
    In the second case, a rule might be needed to allow the use of the Ants as a benchmark for future hunters abilities.

    Pariston was the one bringing up the Hunter Exam though, not me. True, he brushed it off when it was no longer needed, since Gon showed up but I think he still has some plans for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ero-Sanji View Post
    The end of democracy is when the power goes from the people to one person, family or institution. Anyway, this is fairly off topic, but my statement is that even though the hunters association is a democracy it won't hinder Pariston from taking over, since that has happened so many times before in our history.
    Actually, Togashi is clearly leading his readers to that sort of debate!

    As you said, Pariston is a charismatic politician, who thinks of the system as a tool for his ambition. It seems he already controls large parts of the hunter bureaucracy thru simple means of influence.

    However the hunter association was tailored for Netero. He was a personnality 'above the parties', because he was too strong; the same way some contries organized themselves around heroes with undisputed legitimacy after a national crisis (De Gaulle, Putin, Mao Zedong, etc.)

    The succession to that sort of people is problematic. Netero probably frustrated a lot of people during his 'reign', but their interests are not compatible. Pariston can't hope to replace him, therefore he will need to share the power, and also adapt a few aspects of the organization to reach his goal.

    The possibilities are limitless here, but my personnal favourite would be that he is an agent of the world's States, and he ultimately wants to put an end to the Hunter Association (ie end its independance, make it a tool for the States and favour chaos).

    What would remain would be an entity very favourable to temp hunters, and Pariston backed by the States leading it, apparently obedient but in reality with more freedom. I could imagine that the ants crisis would decide country leaders of the opportunity to control a tool like the HA ^^

    I have no proof at all, just think it would fit the character

    Quote Originally Posted by Ero-Sanji View Post
    It's actually not a matter of being evil
    I was just reacting to the term 'worst' dictators, Seemed to me History probably produced a thousand guys democratically elected and with a worse record than Caesar

    Quote Originally Posted by heron bpv View Post
    And saying that Netero is a dictator... it's blaphemy! =P
    Hehe that's true! Nice illustration of a typical cult of personality =p

    Quote Originally Posted by k-dom View Post
    Actually those 3 achieved their power through deliquescent democracies. And democracy is really a nice term for the roman republic and the directoire, oligarchy is more close to the truth
    They used circumstances more than actual deliquescence of the system itself. Aristotle showed that any system based on an election is a government by the oligarchy (the only ones who have the means and the knowledge to effectively run the election, and govern). In times of crisis, countless modern examples show that democratic systems are no more than tools in the hands of a few.

    For example, a lot of democracies fundamental law/constitution leave open the possibility of extended powers to their president for a limited time, in case of national crisis. That's surely not based on the belief one man can save the day if given the means. Isn't it more beyond that an expression of the confidence that the oligarchy has the means to use the state more efficiently, once a few barriers are removed?

    Sorry for the long OT, but again Togashi himself asks for it

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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 334 Discussion / 335 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by Uriel View Post
    You just forgot the 18 missing hunters, right Phan?
    That's a different subplot though. I'm just saying in general, as a chairman, Pariston would have to put up with a lot of guys who will be like, "hey Mr. Chairman, I voted for you, how about some favors!" He'd have relatively little to gain from those guys, but he'd definitely have to spend a lot of time to deal with those guys.

    Again it's not that he'll stop his evil ways, but that his position will cause him to lose a lot of time & energy he otherwise could've devoted to his evil ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uriel View Post
    Why Pariston would need to modify the exam? All those cocoons are already ideal for hunting. And Mind you, there is already monster like creatures living with humans already so that wouldn't be an issue.
    I think he wants the cocoon guys to become Hunters, not hunted.

    It can be inferred that his powerbase probably doesn't specialize in overwhelming physical ability. I'm sure Pariston would like to add a bunch of loyal, super powerful (physically speaking) under his command. He may be shrewd, but I'm sure he knows at some point he needs a credible force on his side too. You can't just sweet talk and scheme your way out of everything. At some point, you'll need people under your command who can fight too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wowzers View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out what Pariston wants to do with 5000 ants. From the clues in the last few chapters I'm currently mulling over 2 possibilities:

    1) Pariston wants to modify the hunter exam so that Chimera Ants can participate to become Hunters. The Ants in this case would be considered on a par with Humans.

    2) Pariston wants to modify the hunter exam so that Chimera Ants are one of the stages. New hunters have to overcome an Ant as part of the exam. The Ants in this case would simply be testing materials.

    The two examples above would result in very different and diverging storylines. Also, if Pariston doesn't get his way, would he release 5000 Ants into the general population, or would he use them against the Hunter Organization itself? I think we are likely going to find out just how evil Pariston can be in future chapters.
    Fighting those 5000 soldiers would be borderline suicide even for veteran Hunters, let alone newbies taking the exam. Presumably these soldiers are supposed to be the 'new and improved' version of Ants. While we won't expect them to be as strong as Royals, they should be at least as strong as the regular Ant soldiers, if not close to the Commander level. To put things in perspective, even the Spiders took damage 1 on 1 against the grunts, and remember there are 5000 of those guys so we're not looking at a fair 1 on 1 fight. In particular, if the soldiers have the Ants' common 'continue fighting while dead' trait, they'd prove to be very formidable even to killing machines like Hisoka or Ilumi, because now killing your opponent no longer stops their attack. Look at Hisoka's fight, if the guy can make one more attack after taking a deathblow from Hisoka, he might have gone down too. Now normal humans don't continue fighting after having their throat slit, but we know Ants can basically continue fighting having their head chopped off.

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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 334 Discussion / 335 Prediction

    just read the chapter, and this page (too lazy to scroll back). So... Nobody excited about Ging's meeting with Gon?

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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 334 Discussion / 335 Prediction

    When I said Hunting I meant like the profession. They're ideal to be Hunters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phantron View Post
    That's a different subplot though.
    It's the way He deals with someone annoying, apparently. So it's not a different subplot which is unrelated with how He deals with weaklings without relevance.
    Quote Originally Posted by baboysai View Post
    just read the chapter, and this page (too lazy to scroll back). So... Nobody excited about Ging's meeting with Gon?
    To be honest...nope :P
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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 334 Discussion / 335 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by Uriel View Post
    To be honest...nope :P
    huh. I do have a feeling that it's going to be anticlimactic as usual. The mangaka's always been like that about Ging and Gon. So... i guess I don't have high hopes for it either. :/

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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 334 Discussion / 335 Prediction

    It's not only that. Ging is a jerk and Gon is kinda simple. As characters I assume their meeting wont be as deep and emotional as I like to read re-encounters.
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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 334 Discussion / 335 Prediction

    Though I bet it'll be hilarious =P

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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 334 Discussion / 335 Prediction

    I bet that there will be some severe family bonding fistfight. I guess that's how it would probably happen between a jerk father and a kinda simple son. Hopefully there will be a random hit to Pariston at the same time, to see him lose his composure.
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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 334 Discussion / 335 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by Uriel View Post
    It's not only that. Ging is a jerk and Gon is kinda simple. As characters I assume their meeting wont be as deep and emotional as I like to read re-encounters.
    I agree with you. Now that they're about to reunite, I'm looking forward to Ging's reaction due to him being not comfortable in front of a crowd.

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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 334 Discussion / 335 Prediction

    may be gon ignore his father and do as what he
    said to kaito at the begining of the ant arc and continue hunting him...
    or gon run towards him and call father then gin run also and say son with
    both spreading their arms then gon say jan ken pon ...

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