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Thread: Old Raikage vs Sasuke

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    Old Raikage vs Sasuke

    Asume that Raikage knows about MS jutsus and that he can achive in short bursts the same speeds as A to dodge Amaterasu (but only for that). With Raiton armour + shunshin (it would make some sense and this avoids a 1 shoot kill win).

    Asume Sasuke knows who and what Raikage is/can do.
    Asume Sasuke can't just fly into the clouds on his bird and stay there. He needs to keep fighting even if he creates tactics with his bird (but again not just fly up and stay there, he needs to come down to fight Raikage).

    They fight in Konoa crater.
    Last edited by xXan; January 31, 2012 at 04:28 AM.

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    Re: Old Raikage vs Sasuke

    Old Raikage win, he can tank any jutsu of sasuke.

    But i know sasuke fans would be SUSANOO UNBREAKABLE <-......... I doubt [S] Hellbringer will pierce that susanoo LOL Raikage punch + tsukikage force broke through Susanoo.. even Rubber means nothing to old Raikage and we know Rubber owns Lightning. Raikage even with stand FRS it has strong attack than Susanoo LOL.
    His hellbringer alone pierce through Susanoo, as his Hellbringer alone cut entire 8 tails apart. Where 8 tails can withstand biju attacks :-). im sure susanoo cant withstand biju attack. cuz biju attack is far more stronger than raikage punch + tsukikage force.

    Raikage 1 finger > Sasuke ass = Thousand years of Pain HAHAHA

    Raikage doesn't use wrestling like his Son, so pretty much his Finger will kill Sasuke in 1 touch.. Raikage do lots of wrestling move to sasuke, but I see Hellbringer is far superior than wrestling move.
    Last edited by Lemonadez; January 31, 2012 at 05:01 AM.

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    Re: Old Raikage vs Sasuke

    Sasuke wins decisively.

    Jigoku Nikute suffers from the same problem as Killerbee's Number 8: It's a direct stab where you run at your opponent: child's play for anyone with a Sharingan.

    Sasuke's dealt with Raiton Armor before, so he knows better than to rely on Raiton, and that his MS is gonna give him the win. He also won't waste a chance at hurting him with Genjutsu as he knows it protects the user from it aswell. The fight literally comes down to Sasuke duping the huge tank into walking right into Amaterasu. After that he just flies above the clouds and waits for him to disappear in a plume of smoke and flames. I'll explain.

    First of all, it took Yondaime Raikage two (yep, two) attacks to break through the weakest form of Susanoo. Sasuke however, has access to the strongest form now. Even with the off-chance that the Jigoku Nikute could pierce through Susanoo, it would be pure suicide, since Sasuke would take advantage of him being that close, with a hand stuck inside his Susanoo partway, and just drop an Amaterasu on him.

    "But wait! Raikage fought a bajillion ninja for multiple days by himself!" Well, that may be true, but he wasn't set aflame by Amaterasu while that was happening. Stamina means nothing in a fight where you're hit with Amaterasu since there's no way in hell he's gonna keep Raiton Armor activated for 7 days and nights. He could risk cutting limbs off the way Yondaime Raikage did, but he'll eventually be left without a leg to stand on (HAH!).

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    Re: Old Raikage vs Sasuke

    LOL when it was stated on top that Amaterasu wont hit [S] first time, then on next move 1 finger straight to sasuke face (just like [A] punching sasuke straight in the face).

    So I still don't see Sasuke surviving a 1 finger straight through his face.

    lol Sasuke using amaterasu -> his body alone couldn't last for 1 hour. unless u show us evidence that sasuke been fighting his opponent for 1 hour, where Raikage himself fought thousand of shinobi for 3 days...

    I still remember Naruto 1000 shadow clone > Sasuke. and Naruto shadow clone uses same abilities. While 3rd raikage fought thousand of shinobi and each individual shinobi posses different technique and abilities.

    I still don't see sasuke can wipe out 3rd Raikage, Sasuke can only use his amterasu to damage 3rd Raikage that about it. 3rd Raikage body can with stand Susanoo any of his attack that able to penetrate tree LOL and destroying pillar...while 8 tail strength is even beyond susanoo. Dont see ur sasuke winning.

    Amaterasu wont hit Old man raikage, he will kill sasuke before 3rd Raikage goes down with amaterasu. Sasuke cant last long with Susanoo or his amaterasu either, since he doesn't have enough chakra to last a battle for 1 hour. 3rd Raikage speed is on par with [A]. Sasuke body couldn't keep up with [A].

    4th Raikage could have kill Sasuke that time, if only Gaara didn't interupt the fight, even if sacrifice his arm, it still damage sasuke from that impact of karate chop.
    Last edited by Lemonadez; January 31, 2012 at 06:44 AM.

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    Re: Old Raikage vs Sasuke

    Once again Sasuke is thrown into the fray. Seriously, it's so shocking for the amount of Adults that truely hates a manga character!!

    So raikage has all his powers and extra speed? So Sasuke is nerfed?

    Sasuke wins:
    Raikage charge foward with a punch or poke, it gets block by Susanoo. Sasuke hit Raikage with Amaterasu sword... He burns slowly while Saduke keeps Susanoo activated.

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    Re: Old Raikage vs Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Sasuke View Post
    Once again Sasuke is thrown into the fray. Seriously, it's so shocking for the amount of Adults that truely hates a manga character!!

    So raikage has all his powers and extra speed? So Sasuke is nerfed?

    Sasuke wins:
    Raikage charge foward with a punch or poke, it gets block by Susanoo. Sasuke hit Raikage with Amaterasu sword... He burns slowly while Saduke keeps Susanoo activated.
    How Sasuke nerfed?

    Look [A] manage to hit & grab sasuke before susanoo even appear.

    But this is different Old Raikage doesn't Grab and wrestle. Before Susanoo even appear, 1 finger would have kill sasuke.

    Let say Example: [A] vs [Sasuke] you see he got hit many times before susanoo even appear. Let say [A] use Hellbringer 1 finger like [S]. how many times you think [A] would have hit sasuke instead of doing those maneuver wrestling move.

    How your sasuke hit with his susanoo if [S] is fast as [A].

    There is no extra speed in here, the fact its manga proof Kyuubi chakra mode naruto who's fast as [A] having hard time with [S] speed.
    Last edited by Lemonadez; January 31, 2012 at 10:46 AM.

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    Re: Old Raikage vs Sasuke

    Sasuke is nerfed by the third Raikage having speeds he haven't shown.

    Sasuke didn't know how to use Susanoo when he fought A, that was something he wanted to try out.
    The third Raikage runs in a straight line like his son and bee, Sasuke's sharingan can read his movements.

    A said he is the fastest shinobi since the fourth is gone... Meaning he is faster then his father.

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    Re: Old Raikage vs Sasuke

    Quote Quote:
    Once again Sasuke is thrown into the fray. Seriously, it's so shocking for the amount of Adults that truely hates a manga character!!
    I don't think xXan hates Sasuke. I can't speak for anyone else, but I also like to use Sasuke as an opponent... not because I hate him, but because I acknowledge his strength and thus for me he's one of the most challenging characters one can fight against.

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    Re: Old Raikage vs Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Sasuke View Post
    A said he is the fastest shinobi since the fourth is gone... Meaning he is faster then his father.
    So his father was still alive? when [A] talk it about to Naruto in present time?

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    Re: Old Raikage vs Sasuke

    When the hell has Naruto had trouble with Sandaime Raikage's speed? I remember seeing Naruto throw an FRS, trick S into dodging it, then run up and grab it and slam it into him before he could react. That's not having trouble with his speed, that's overcoming his speed.

    Likewise when has S shown speed comperable to his son? Thirdly, why do you think Jigoku Nikute could pierce throuch Susanoo again? Because he cut through doton with it? Or rubber, because all his striking force was focused at one point and he picked up enough momentum to fly through? Raiton is naturally stronger than Doton. And Sasuke has harmed a bijuu with his Chidori Eisou (same beast that S fought, the Hachibi), so if we're going by ability to harm full form bijuu Sasuke is just as capable. Even if Jigoku Nikute pierced through the Susanoo it'd be negligable damage, like when Sasuke stabbed into A's Raiton Armor. It'd also let Sasuke hit him point blank with an Amaterasu since his hand will be stuck inside the partially cracked Susanoo.

    It's suicide.

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    Re: Old Raikage vs Sasuke

    Really Sasuke harm Hachibi with his Chidori Eisou? Proof.

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    Re: Old Raikage vs Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by LnDRash View Post
    I don't think xXan hates Sasuke. I can't speak for anyone else, but I also like to use Sasuke as an opponent... not because I hate him, but because I acknowledge his strength and thus for me he's one of the most challenging characters one can fight against.
    I never said xXan hates Sasuke, in fact he has defended Sasuke several times. Still don't change the fact that so many Adults hate the character. My complain is, Saduke haven't shown his upgrade and he is battling shinobi that have shown everything they have... Cause they are dead. Sasuke has also been in more fights in this arena then most fighters combined. Not for the reason you said but for trying to see how many opponents he can lose to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonadez View Post
    So his father was still alive? when [A] talk it about to Naruto in present time?
    Was Minato still alive??

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    Re: Old Raikage vs Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Sasuke View Post
    Sasuke is nerfed by the third Raikage having speeds he haven't shown.

    Sasuke didn't know how to use Susanoo when he fought A, that was something he wanted to try out.
    The third Raikage runs in a straight line like his son and bee, Sasuke's sharingan can read his movements.

    A said he is the fastest shinobi since the fourth is gone... Meaning he is faster then his father.
    Sasuke is not nerfed. I just used that trick to get around Sasuke 1 shooting Raikage of the bat.. If that would happen where would the fun be? Really if Raikage could not generate that level of speed to dodge a direct Amaterasu that would end there and then. Also take note that he can only use that speed to dodge a direct Amaterasu.

    Even so you can see people giving the win to Sasuke so not using that trick at least would be a stomp for Sasuke.

    PS. I actualy like Sasuke. I do hope he get's back to the old Sasuke that was helping team 7 but that is another thing.

    @ninjabot

    Well to be fair it was stated to be the ultimate bla bla bla and cutting the horn of is way more impresive then a tentacle. A tentacle was cut off with a kunai by Minato (asuming that was not a special move he used).

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    Re: Old Raikage vs Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Sasuke View Post
    Was Minato still alive??
    Was 3rd Raikage was still alive when Minato became "4th Yondaime"?

    Cuz clearly he said minato name as [4th Yondaime]

    But you see, if [A] and [S] were equal speed?
    You think [A] would use exact phrase, "There is no faster shinobi than me and my father now 4th yondaime is dead"? <- Y bring his dead father name. LOL so let also put Bee v2 form that shit is fast too. Bee normal form outspeed sasuke so in his v2 form he must be faster than [A]? i mean sasuke manage to handle [A] in close combat, but he couldn't manage Bee in close combat? so wtf is that LOL
    Last edited by Lemonadez; January 31, 2012 at 01:27 PM.

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    Re: Old Raikage vs Sasuke

    Since dodging Amaterasu requires the person to look straight at Sasuke's MS to know when to move, the Raikage would be opening himself to a genjutsu by doing so. And even if the Raikage could avoid a shot of Amaterasu, if Sasuke decides to shot a wide Amaterasu to cover the field, his places to run will be limited. Not to mention Sasuke's abilities to control the flames, meaning even a miss can be turnt into a hit. Sooner or later, he'll be caught by the flames and then it would only be a matter of time before he's burnt to death.

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