Manda II vs Mount Myōboku

[ninjabot]

I also want to remind folks that the Frog Song they used when helping Naruto was nowhere near as effective as the one they used against Animal Realm. All the bodies were paralyzed when they used it the first time. If it was the same Genjutsu then every Realm that fought SM Naruto would've been paralyzed when they used it.

[Lemonadez]

I also want to remind folks that the Frog Song they used when helping Naruto was nowhere near as effective as the one they used against Animal Realm. All the bodies were paralyzed when they used it the first time. If it was the same Genjutsu then every Realm that fought SM Naruto would've been paralyzed when they used it.

Who ever said it was the same -.-

http://www.mangareader.net/93-436-9/...apter-431.html <- This only paralyze for short amount of time. [But it can be used in instant]
http://www.mangareader.net/93-384-8/...apter-379.html <- This is their ultimate PA+MA genjutsu. [Frog song that need duet]
http://www.mangareader.net/93-384-9/...apter-379.html <- The result of it
http://www.mangareader.net/93-384-10...apter-379.html <- getting sealed

[xXan]

I also want to remind folks that the Frog Song they used when helping Naruto was nowhere near as effective as the one they used against Animal Realm. All the bodies were paralyzed when they used it the first time. If it was the same Genjutsu then every Realm that fought SM Naruto would've been paralyzed when they used it.

That was a frong song(the one used vs the 2 summons)? I always belived it was just some random scream lol :P

[ninjabot]

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_Art:_Frog_Call

It's Frog Song in the English translated manga, so I called it Frog Song aswell. It's Frog Call in other translations. Either way it doesn't have the range of the original Frog Song, and paralyzing a giant snake while it's running at you wouldn't stop it's momentum.

[mattiaildivino]

manda could handle bunta and katsuyu at the same time,manda 2 can surely wipe the floor with bunta,ken and hiro. about the 2 elders I don't know,they may survive and stop him with the song,but it's hard since fukasaku had a lot of troubles throwing bunta or a stone statue. I think manda 2 would win the 1st 2 scenarios but would loose the 3rd

[Lemonadez]

Remember this Manda II is bigger and faster. Can he actually see MA+PA frog? i mean their size is almost same as adult shinobi hand. :P i know he can sense odor, but there a lot of odor in surroundings :P

[LnDRash]

http://www.mangareader.net/93-58053-...apter-513.html

"his senses are far more accurate then the originals"

Snakes can sense infrared thermal radiation, they also have great sense of smell and they can even percept the slightest vibrations other animals are not even aware of. Keep in mind thats a normal snake, but in this case we are talking about a genetically breed super snake. Its the Captain America of snakes.

Manda II has a better perception of its surroundings then most ninjas. So don't worry, he'll know exactly where those frogs are.

[Lemonadez]

http://www.mangareader.net/93-58053-...apter-513.html

"his senses are far more accurate then the originals"

Snakes can sense infrared thermal radiation, they also have great sense of smell and they can even percept the slightest vibrations other animals are not even aware of. Keep in mind thats a normal snake, but in this case we are talking about a genetically breed super snake. Its the Captain America of snakes.

Manda II has a better perception of its surroundings then most ninjas. So don't worry, he'll know exactly where those frogs are.

Hmm how come ur using our current "reality version of snake" and apply it to naruto verse. Today even reality snake can't do that kind of stuff under the sea. Manda II doing some wierd swimming style under the sea so fast, where reality snake cant even survive in salt water LOL..

But since u like using reality, meaning our tortoise is beyond size of Manda II LOL. look at the pic u gave us, that Giant tortoise is beyond size of Manda II.

[ninjabot]

Reality Snake doesn't have chakra. Reality Snake can't use jutsu. It also didn't matter that the tortoise was larger than Manda, he still had to find it out in the middle of the ocean and if I remember correctly they took precautions to make sure he couldn't be found. And Manda still found him.

[Lemonadez]

Hey remember it said Animal is also a tool.

Manda II also appear once? I Guess its Auto win for these FROG.

HAHAHAHa

[ninjabot]

First off, to be on topic who is "it", and where did "it" say an animal is a tool?

Secondly, didn't you already get banned for one or two days for this kind of trolling? You obviously haven't learned your lesson.

[Lemonadez]

First off, to be on topic who is "it", and where did "it" say an animal is a tool?

Secondly, didn't you already get banned for one or two days for this kind of trolling? You obviously haven't learned your lesson.

Here you go
http://www.mangareader.net/93-80-2/n...hapter-75.html <- Animal is a tool

I don't see any trolling here, where you guys started this 1 time tool usage appearance cant be used on a battle?. Like on Uchiha vs Naruto, you guys been trolling that Naruto cant use this ____ because it only appear 1 time on manga .

[ninjabot]

I can't for the life of me understand why you guys can't tell the difference between a jutsu and a tool.

A tool is an item you procure before you can use it. If you aren't shown to use them often, then you don't use them regularly and don't get them in a fight.

Ninjutsu is something that requires no procurement prior and can be used aslong as you have chakra and know how to do it, thus, you can be shown to have only used it once but still have access to it in any fight with no conditions because it's fully apart of your repertoire.

Summoning is a ninjutsu. A ninja summoning an animal is proof that they have a blood pact with it and thus every animal in that pact. There's no need to prove procurement so, summoning that one animal only once means you can still summon it, or others of it's ilk at any time provided you have the chakra. So the same rule works as with ninjutsu (because it IS a ninjutsu).

I literally CAN NOT dumb it down for you any better than that. I'm sorry.

[Lemonadez]

Yea u keep going crazy about it. when the manga proof stated that Animal is tool. U come up with ninjutsu.

So as it stated ANimal is a TOOL, you cannot defy it.
And Summoning is a ninjutsu so its not a TOOL?, u can even see Tenten using her summoning ninjutsu guess what multiple TOOLS appeared.

Mine is manga proof itself. Yours are just theory by yourself.

[LnDRash]

And even if we assume that you are right, what does this change?

Its not like any ninja is controlling or summoning Manda in this topic, the snake is completely acting on its own, so trying to remove it because its considered a tool is just plain stupid. Those frogs he's fighting against are "tools" too, so its a "tool vs. tools" battle with no ninjas involved who could rely on those tools.

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Hmm how come ur using our current "reality version of snake" and apply it to naruto verse. Today even reality snake can't do that kind of stuff under the sea. Manda II doing some wierd swimming style under the sea so fast, where reality snake cant even survive in salt water LOL..

Thats called common sense... if you have a fantasy creature that is clearly modeled after a real life counterpart, then the fantasy-version has all characteristics and abilities of its real life role model + all those crazy fantasy abilities the author decides to add to the creature.

For example frogs are obviously amphibian creature's, but Kishimoto has never drawn a fight in which the toads had to fight under water. Shall I assume now that Narutoverse frogs can't swim or dive because they are different from "real life frogs"? If thats so then I shall remember that once the next Kisame vs. Toad Contract User <XYZ> comes up.