Naruto 573 Discussion

[xXan]

What would be nice is if Sasuke could make his Susano like a normal human size shield around his body, like body armour with Susano shrinking to that size so he will be dodging, jumping and so on but have Susano on to. It would be a boost in durability for him but also keep his old fighting style that was great. Curent one with spaming Susano turret mode is lame lol.

[KiSwordsman]

@ninjabot I honestly don't know what "Uchiha Style" Sasuke could have learned from Tobi. It seemed, before he got the Mangekyo, he figured out anything he could have learned on his own. If he is to fight Madara, he won't learn much until he awakens the rin'negan for himself. I say that because EMS madara was barely showcased.

[ninjabot]

Susanoo Mode was an idea that was going around a while back, but just like how someone tried to pass Enton Armor off as a neat idea, Susanoo Mode would be a chakra drain Sasuke can't sustain. Unless ofcourse the smaller Susanoo had less of an effect on the user pain and chakra wise. Keep in mind he'd have to use it ontop of multiple other MS jutsu aswell.

This is the only reason I'm hoping for a spacetime jutsu from his EMS. Because I'm so over Susanoo and I want him to fight like he used to. That, and I'm still pissed that his MS has given him nothing completely unique to himself. Shisui get's Kotoamatsukami. Kakashi gets Kamui. Sasuke just gets the exact same ones Itachi gets? Lame.

@KiSwordsman: More katon? More shuriken jutsu? Beef up his basic Sharingan Genjutsu/Tsukuyomi to atleast close to Itachi's standards? Maybe an Uchiha specific taijutsu that takes the Sharingan's predictive abilities and builds a style that focuses on perfect counters, I dunno. Something we haven't seen. Something only the strongest would know.

[danzouismadara]

Actually no. There a lot of scanlating groups and the chapters of JUMPs Top 3 were always up Wednesday. Sometimes even earlier than the mangastreamversions.

well do share because I rarely see that

[NinjaStar]

I honestly don't know why Sasuke gets all the hate about "spamming" ms techniques. He has only fought in i guess 3? fights since he got MS. Each fight was completely justified. He was getting thrashed by killer bee so the only way to fight on par(or at least survive) with him was to use ms. Even though it wasn't very smart; when he fought the kages he had to use it because well...they were KAGES. He literary fought(skirmished) with 4 kages consecutively. Throw in some Jounin and the samurai and you have a character that would be WAY in over his head without ms. Then against Danzo he used it because he was extremely angry and once again he was fighting a KAGE. Do you expect him to just beat kage level opponents for lolz with just his base stats? I mean Sasuke is really strong but he isn't THAT strong. Do you just expect him to not fight to the best of his abilities against opponents that would be stronger than him sans MS? Like he didn't use MS because he didn't feel like doing anything else, its because he NEEDED ms to beat/survive against those opponents. He hasn't been in one full fledged fight since he got MS besides danzo and in that fight he used taijutsu, genjutsu, raiton, katon, a summons, some tools, and effective strategies. If he used his EMS straight out the gate against the army then so what? Its an ARMY. Do you expect him to wreck on them with out using his most powerful moves? He uses it because he needs to and will continue using it only when he needs to....Minus the Zetsu thing. That was just fan service
Sorry about the Rant

On topic good chapter, Cant wait for the next one.

[ninjabot]

The reason Sasuke's MS usage is considered spamming is because the quickness at which he gets tired and blind when using it. Itachi went most of his adult life without going blind completely. Sasuke went through 3 fights and right after was done as far as his eyes were concerned.

Then again, Itachi sure as hell wasn't fighting the calibur of ninja that Sasuke was, so he likely only needed one usage of his MS before whatever fight he was in ended. Every ninja Sasuke used his MS against was Kage-level, thus, requiring a hell of alot harder fighting. I'm positive Itachi wasn't fighting kage-level opponents since childhood.

[enmymiguel]

soo when they activate the sharingan. they see thing different, also with the rinegan. soo i wonder how is tobi vision. with both eye activate.


i wonder what is tobi full power, he say he got 50% of hes power, cause he lose it in a fight with the 1st, but we dont believe that. i think he lose it with the 4th

[NinjaStar]

Wasn't Itachi a pacifist though? Like he went out of his way to avoid a fight whenever he could? Sasuke is like the complete opposite of that. Also Its not Itachi lived long, he died at the age of 20 or something like that. Oh and Sasuke didn't have an S rank nin as his partner to do all the heavy lifting(kisame). Oh and one last thing itachi was stronger then sasuke so there was less of a need for him to us ms if a battle was unavoidable. Sasuke HAD to use it because he wouldn't have survived had he not. Itachi on the other hand may have done better had he been in those situations.

[ninjabot]

@NinjaStar: Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. It's just a case can be made for the constant usage of Sasuke's MS. Though normally when brought up it's just as an attempt to downplay Sasuke's skill power versatility when people say he spams.

[NinjaStar]

If Naruto had repercussions to his jutsu would it also be considered spamming?

[xXan]

What is so bad about Sasuke spaming and getting MS is that before of it Sasuke had the best fights in this manga (personal oppinion of course) now that he has MS those fights are gone. I really hope he get's something from EMS that would stop the exagerated use of Susano and allow us to enjoy his old fights again.

[ninjabot]

If Naruto had repercussions to his jutsu would it also be considered spamming?

Heh. I like you. But yeah, the fact that Sasuke's MS comes at a great cost should alleviate the griping about his "spamming". It'd be a big deal if he suffered no side effects from their constant usage, but we all know that's definately not the case.

[NinjaStar]

But Sasuke has had only one real fight since he got MS. I loved his fights with the Curse Seal(and hope it gets it back *fingers crossed*) but i don't see anything wrong with his danzo fight. I liked it. He used at least one jutsu from the "categories" of jutsu he had, Chidori spear(raiton) ect. Its not like he relied solely on MS. He is still a resourceful, talented, tactical genius. As for barging in at the kage summit, that admittedly wasn't the smartest thing. But he only started using MS after he regular arsenal of techs. didn't work.

[Sageofthezooted]

I'm not a big sasuke fan but i feel there was more than one reason behind him spaming MS techniques. Of coarse number one was for survival. Number two was to learn and create new techniques. Like the 4th hokage Sasuke figured out that he would need a great power to completely defeat Toby. Sasuke biggest problem was when faced with opponents with more power (except naruto) and the chance of him losing he reverts back to the little boy he was the day his clan got annihilated. Need an example just look at the itachi fight. but im not here to bash sasuke he has improved on his ability to not fear death (Kage fights)

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