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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
No matter who the top ten would be, I'm just wondering how all of them are gonna get an event amount of showtime. Seriously, that's my biggest concern. Will we ever see Zaizen strut his stuff? Will we ever see guys like Akutsu realize their potential? It's a bit much to deliver, so I wanna see how it's gonna be delivered.
Unless Kaidou now has an amazing technique which can prevent Momo from using BJK, Kaidou gets bageled, if not KOed.
I'll eat my shoe if Kaidou plays doubles against Kimijima/Tohno.
I don't think it's that bad that he plays against Kimijima/Tohno and win, people underestimate Kaidoh when he has a great hidden potential.
Last edited by LetalHawk; February 20, 2012 at 10:13 AM.
Momoshiro in power >> Kaidoh. And smashing ability. BJK will eventuall kiss goodbye to Kaidoh's wrists. No way is he currently above Momoshiro lol. Until Kaidoh brings something new, and I mean UNTIL that moment, Momoshiro > Kaidoh.
I think its bad if Kaidoh plays against somebody from the Top 8.
I can think of more 10 Msers who will kick Kaidoh's ass. So Top 8 is just too high.
I know it's too high, but since players like Kawamura and Kabaji made it to No.13 and 12, and there are several stronger players than them, I wouldn't be surprised to see Kaidoh making it to top 8.
I knew you would say that Konomi depicted them as equal, much like Echizen and Kintarou (not now since Echizen could destroy Kintarou). But, even if they're rivals, one player must be stronger than another no matter what, they can't be in the same level forever.
I dont see Gin beating Akutsu regardless of power.
Kawamura and Kabaji are in the wrong positions. I dont see Kawamura/Gin sending Fuji, Akutsu, Atobe, Shiraishi, Yukimura, Sanada, Tooyama, Ryoma, Chitose or Tachibana flying. I see each of them soundly defeating Kawamura/Gin.
Same with Kaidoh perfecting the stances for Snake(s) and Gyro Laser so that he used the same stance for all of them so the opponent wouldnt know what was happening.
I dont see the Kaidoh we saw up til now beating Yagyuu. I see an even match considering Yagyuu's stance for Laser beam and Curving Laser are the same as he has perfected the stance and that Yagyuu.
I also reckon Kite would defeat Kaidoh. He showed great power returning the shots that were returned to him with Double power. Only Tezuka Zone + Doubled Return raped him, while it took only Tezuka Zone to handle Kaidoh.
All in all I believe Top 8 is way too high for Kaidoh. Also, I get the feeling Konomi likes promoting Kirihara as ''really strong'' and I have a bad feeling Kirihara may go Top 8.
Last edited by Airgrimes; February 21, 2012 at 03:02 PM.
I see players like Tachibana or Chitose, Kite, Marui and others defeating Gin and Kawamura. And I see Kaidoh stronger than Kite, Momo could also defeat him now since he would be able to deal with Sukuchihou and Kite won't return BJK. Gyro Laser, as you don't know when he'll hit it, it confuses the opponent, so he is almost invincible. Kite won't win against Kaidoh right now, I'm pretty confident about it.
And mark my words, Kaidoh will make it to top 8 regardless there are other players stronger than him.
Except Kite can effortlessly teleport. So every now and then, eventually he would reach Gyro Laser. Kaidoh is being overrated here. Just coz he had his water stolen by Tanegashima?
Im not comparing Kite to Momo right now, Its Kaidoh, and Tachibana and Chitose right now > Kaidoh.
Just the way Kirihara was all over him in the Nationals prior to bringing out Gyro Laser makes me feel he aint Top 8 level.
Top 8 meaning he will be in same category as King Hax Fuji? or Nature defier Yukimura? I just dont see that yet bro.
Kaidoh's improvement needs to be AWESOME. Since I reckon the way Ochi and Mouri are, Tohno or Kimijima >> Kaidoh.
Just the fact that Momoshiro NEEDED BJK to beat Taira and Hara. Kaidoh should need far more than Gyro Laser to defeat No.7 or 8. And there's a chance Kaidoh could go for a higher position too. So unless Kaidoh's improvement is enormous, then Top 8 wouldnt be right for Kaidoh.
And Kaidoh making Top 8 when there are several above him would make the Top 8 not exactly the Top 8.
Even this suspect Top 20 that sucked having several guys like Irie, Tokugawa and Oni not in the team that went abroad that allowed fodder replacements like Kaji. No.11-20 were all a joke besides Date and Ban.
Its likely we will finish with a Top 8 that contains members that are weaker than several other players.
That he is in the top 10 like Fuji or Yukimura doesn't mean he is in the same league.
And I'm sure he has made an enormous improvement dude. You just have a different point of view, you see Kaidoh weaker, I see him stronger. We just have a different point of view about Kaidoh. Only Konomi will show how much he improved.
No, because Tanegashima stoled his water bottle, that it's shitless, it's not important. He doesn't deserve more screentime because of that, and I never mentioned that by the way.
Kirihara's a baby. He should be a 11-20 member, if anything. He's just a guy who tries his best to beat the opponent up using a tennis ball. How many players do we have like that again? Besides, without his Satsui no Hado, Kirihara's food.Quote:
As a matter of fact, I fancy Inui's chances against Kaidoh nevermind at the start of the series, I see a good match and perhaps Inui winning. Simply due to how Yanagi can crush Kirihara, Inui and Kaidoh is an exremely similar pair so I see a good chance of Inui > Kaidoh.
Oh and also, not only Yagyuu > Kaidoh, but definetely Niou > Kaidoh. So we have a lot of players currently above Kaidoh. He seriously has to be handed some massive power-up by Konomi.
I also see Kaidoh as outside Top 10. He has never been protected by plot. In actual fact, Kirihara is more promoted by Konomi and for some reason appears in the current anime ending besides the awesome players.
I dont see Kaidoh as promoted by Konomi as much. And even if he was now, I see him outside Top 8, since it seems as though Tokugawa will be up there for this. If the HSers also stay as 1st Stringers although I doubt they will, I dont see a place for Kaidoh in Top 8 since there are just too many players better than him that are protected by plot as you said.
Your yet to explain to me why you believe Kaidoh is so strong.
Right now as we know, Kaidoh is strong, but there are several stronger than him. Around 10 definetes, and a debatable very few more.
All im saying is until we see the power-ups, Top 8 wouldnt be right. Your only guessing he has made ''an enormous improvement''. Until we see it, that power-up doesnt exist. The moment I see the power-up will be the moment I accept how strong you claim he is.
Kaidoh isnt like Fuji. Fuji is so hax, that we know he will get a high ranking spot. Kaidoh has never been that hax so we really wont know.
Just as you say, we can wait for Konomi to show us. Until then, Nationals!Kaidoh isnt good enough for Top 8.
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Dont get me wrong btw guys, I like Kaidoh and think he's awesome too. But im justing expecting Top 8 to be the current strongest 8.
Since Top 8 I imagine will be the ones that play the most and the most important part of the team. So if Kaidoh was Top 8, can you tell me which of the plot protected Middle/High Schoolers would have to make space for him?
Im honestly not character bashing.