battle vs the top ten high schoolers match order/outcome prediction

[LetalHawk]

Youve ignored senewe's complaint at saying Ryoga and Tanegashima are way above Byoudouin. Where's the proof. We dont know if Byoudouin's serve was his best shot. He seemed pretty relaxed to me.
Im not disagreeing however, since I have this weird feeling also that Tanegashima is freaking awesome. Really dont want him to lose to Sanada. Or even face him tbh.

And yeah, No.s 9 and 10 suck so much. Im disappointed that if it hadnt been for Mach Serve they would be screwed. Mouri does nothing as of now. It makes me realize how weak Kenya is considering Mouri ''wiped'' him like Chitose said.
Since Mouri seems weaker than Date and MANY middle schoolers.

I don't say way above, but a little stronger than him. I don't know Byodouin's true abilities, but if Tokugawa beats him, then I'm sure Byodouin would lose to Shuuji since Shuuji is stronger than Tokugawa.

Same thing about Ryoga, he may be No.4, but I'm sure he could defeat Byodouin, he is like a buffed version of Ryoma, so you can say his true power is beyond amazing.

[senewe]

I don't say way above, but a little stronger than him. I don't know Byodouin's true abilities, but if Tokugawa beats him, then I'm sure Byodouin would lose to Shuuji since Shuuji is stronger than Tokugawa.

Same thing about Ryoga, he may be No.4, but I'm sure he could defeat Byodouin, he is like a buffed version of Ryoma, so you can say his true power is beyond amazing.

Well you did say that Shuuji was way above Byodouin (you might be re-check your post). Well while it's everyone right to give opinion, I think to be able to make a good point you have to have a good reason. And well If in your previous post you didn't use that 'way above' expression, then people wouldn't make a big deal out of it ( I might still argue on that though). And your latest post, you said that Shuuji is stronger that Tokugawa, can you please tell us where did that come from? So now owe us two explanation...

And why this match isn't really interest me because for me ideally this Ochi and Mouri should be able to at least 6-3ed AtoNio. Well they are essentially a double pair and the strongest pair if memory serves me right. for me they shouldn't really matched even by Byodouin+Shuuji on their game which is double.

[Airgrimes]

Well you did say that Shuuji was way above Byodouin (you might be re-check your post). Well while it's everyone right to give opinion, I think to be able to make a good point you have to have a good reason. And well If in your previous post you didn't use that 'way above' expression, then people wouldn't make a big deal out of it ( I might still argue on that though). And your latest post, you said that Shuuji is stronger that Tokugawa, can you please tell us where did that come from? So now owe us two explanation...

Tanegashima > Tokugawa? It seems possible. Although there is no proof.
At the same time, he is the same as Irie and Oni. 1st Stringer material players who chose to stay behind. Meaning he is definetely freakin powerful. And just the fact that he was No.2 prior to the trip means he is signficantly above Oni which says a lot about him.

But since Tokugawa suffered against an assault from Byoudouin (I know he was exhausted from training with Ryoma but still), and I dont see Tanegashima getting finished like that at all, I think its possible that Tanegashima > Tokugawa. But then again, none of us know as of yet.

Since Konomi is poor with organizing screentime and just likes giving Niou, Atobe, Ryoma and Sanada unnecessary screentime even though Sanada isnt popular we will probably see Tokugawa, Tanegashima and Byoudouin play JUST ONCE and will have to make half-assed judgements from that one time

And why this match isn't really interest me because for me ideally this Ochi and Mouri should be able to at least 6-3ed AtoNio. Well they are essentially a double pair and the strongest pair if memory serves me right. for me they shouldn't really matched even by Byodouin+Shuuji on their game which is double.

Yeah im confused by them. It feels like Mutsu/Mutsu would fair really well against them. Ochi however has shown that the fodder HSers from 3rd Court and No.s 11-19 wont defeat since Atobe can just barely return his Mach Serve and Niou is yet to return it. Meaning Mach Serve is currently amongst the best serves in the series.

Since this game must have gone quick, im imagining its that Niou and Ochi are keeping their serves, with Mouri and Atobe likely losing there serves.

Luckily, the Coaches said they will now see the real strength of the Top 10. Looking forward to Mouri showing us how he wiped Kenya. He had better have a good technique or ability since he may aswell have been between No.13-19.

[Kaoz]

Since this game must have gone quick, im imagining its that Niou and Ochi are keeping their serves, with Mouri and Atobe likely losing there serves.

From the comments I would guess that everyone kept their service games until 5-5 and then Atobe/Niou broke Mouri's to get a 6-5 lead.

Tsuge: Those guys really broke their service!!

[FrostyMouse]

Luckily, the Coaches said they will now see the real strength of the Top 10. Looking forward to Mouri showing us how he wiped Kenya. He had better have a good technique or ability since he may aswell have been between No.13-19.

Mouri's Rising ability is a higher level ability than anything we've seen out of the 11-20, except for perhaps Bakyuun. None of the 11-20 would be able to return ZSS.

[LetalHawk]

Mouri's Rising ability is a higher level ability than anything we've seen out of the 11-20, except for perhaps Bakyuun. None of the 11-20 would be able to return ZSS.

But he still has to show a technique, much like Ochi has mindgame and Mach, Mouri needs to have some technique, otherwise, I don't understand how he's No.10

[ashore]

i'm not knowledgeable to make the match list but I do have some opinions on who will play.

for sure I disagree that ryoma will be number 1 rank.
the reason is rank 1 is usually the leader ship position, and i frankly don't see ryoma as a leader type like tezuka.

I do agree that Byoudouin vs tokugawa will take place. (i'm undecided who will win)
-if tokugawa wins he gets redemption/ revenge
-if tokugawa loses , ryoma will look at byou as a goal to surpass.

as far as ryoma vs ryoga, i dont think it will take place. ryoga just appeared and we dont know much about him,
-if that match takes place ryoga disappears (by losing) , then brothers cant get to know each other
-ryoga will probably play someone and own them, so that the manga readers and his brother can view how good he is.
-ryoga might even play Byoudouin after tokugawa challenges Byoudouin

the rest of the players is a toss up. I"m still waiting on the next match. IMO atobe needed niou to play doubles.(as shown atobe sought niou the night before). Niou is already 1st string (being ranked 1-20).
So if Niou loses he retains 1st string unless he gets challenged..

[FrostyMouse]

i'm not knowledgeable to make the match list but I do have some opinions on who will play.

for sure I disagree that ryoma will be number 1 rank.
the reason is rank 1 is usually the leader ship position, and i frankly don't see ryoma as a leader type like tezuka.

Not necessarily. The Captain of a team doesn't always play S1, such as with Shiraishi. Tachibana and Tezuka don't always play S1. For the U-17, the No. 1 ranking probably means more, as he's supposed to be the strongest player of the team, but that doesn't mean he's the Captain.

I do agree that Byoudouin vs tokugawa will take place. (i'm undecided who will win)
-if tokugawa wins he gets redemption/ revenge
-if tokugawa loses , ryoma will look at byou as a goal to surpass.

as far as ryoma vs ryoga, i dont think it will take place. ryoga just appeared and we dont know much about him,
-if that match takes place ryoga disappears (by losing) , then brothers cant get to know each other
-ryoga will probably play someone and own them, so that the manga readers and his brother can view how good he is.
-ryoga might even play Byoudouin after tokugawa challenges Byoudouin

the rest of the players is a toss up. I"m still waiting on the next match. IMO atobe needed niou to play doubles.(as shown atobe sought niou the night before). Niou is already 1st string (being ranked 1-20).
So if Niou loses he retains 1st string unless he gets challenged..

Niou gave up his badge, probably to Eiji so that we can have GP back. It's speculation on my part that he gave his badge to Eiji, but as you can see here, Niou doesn't have a U-17 badge on his collar: http://mangafox.me/manga/new_prince_...08/c071/3.html

[ashore]

Not necessarily. The Captain of a team doesn't always play S1, such as with Shiraishi. Tachibana and Tezuka don't always play S1. For the U-17, the No. 1 ranking probably means more, as he's supposed to be the strongest player of the team, but that doesn't mean he's the Captain.[/URL]

I meant ryoma not becoming rank 1, not playing single ones. You are right, rank 1 doesn't always mean playing singles one. BUt I see byoudin as the strongest player on the team denoted by rank 1, and he is the leader. He gives orders to U-17 11-20 to have fun and come back to court 16. He can talk to the coaches and make this shuffle match with the 2nd string to include jr highs. One of the other ranking players see's him as the boss. Irie even expects no1 rank to shut those kids up. While ryoma can give orders I don't think that's his leadership style or that he's leadership material. He can possess rank1 sure, he has the skills, but I dont think he will get it imo.

Niou gave up his badge, probably to Eiji so that we can have GP back. It's speculation on my part that he gave his badge to Eiji, but as you can see here, Niou doesn't have a U-17 badge on his collar: http://mangafox.me/manga/new_prince_...08/c071/3.html

interesting theory. In general, the ranking badges go on the U-17 jersey collar, not the t-shirt. So we dont see Niou/Atobe wear their jersey at all.(just their tshirts, so we can't say for sure if anyone gave away their badges)

I'd like to point out a possible error by konomi. In chapter 70 all the Jrs are wearing their U-17 jerseys, and atobe-niou wears their U-17 t-shirts. But when ch 71 appears, all jrs are wearing their Jr high school jerseys!
I thought this was to promote the former hyotei/rikkai pair vs current, but it seems all jrs magically changed their clothes .

[Phantron]

Not sure if there was a thread on that or discussed earlier, but I think with D2 being revealed it's actually quite possible to predict the remaining matchup.

Based on screen time it seems Ryoma, Sanada, Tokugawa, and Akutsu are guaranteed to show up. That leaves exactly one person open, and I believe it has to be Fuji simply because Fuji hasn't gotten any screen time yet.

Now the next question is who plays in what. I'm assuming there's one more doubles match and 3 singles match. These two seem pretty fixed:

Byodouin vs Tokugawa
Ryoga vs Ryoma

Fuji almost never matches up 1on1 with any power type looking guys (all his single opponent tend to be tech type looking guys like him). Out of the remaining 3, that means Fuji can only be matched against Shuuji, but there's history between Shuuji and Sanada. So, I'm guessing the final two matches would be:

Shuuji + Oni vs Fuji + Sanada
G6 vs Akutsu

or

Shuuji + G6 vs Fuji + Sanada
Oni vs Akutsu

I'm going with the first choice because there is a tendency to match people by their plot relevance. Sanada and Fuji are both story significant characters on the MSer side. G6 looks like a random guy who wore his tag the wrong side, so he gets Akutsu who is less important to the story of POT.

Of course you can't out things like Byodouin vs Tokugawa and then Ryoma replaces him halfway, but if you get into that there are too many possibilities.

[Hardy]

Byoudouin vs Tokugawa (Kazuya will probably lose, and someone will play after him)
Tanegashima
Duke
Ryoga
Oni / Ryuuji

There are so many characters that might play here...

Let's start with the doubles: Oni is probably going to play doubles (if the 4 singles and 3 doubles goes on) and I don't see Akutsu pairing with anyone. WoK or Kirihara/Shiaishi might take that place (or even Fuji + someone else).

Against Ryoga...I really don't know. I see him playing against Byoudouin or Ryoma, no one else.

Duke. This is the hardest one. We haven't seen any Power vs non-power matches. Kintarou is the only one I can imagine here (but I don't like the idea of him as the 3rd best character) or Yukimura (just because he's a beast).

Then we have Tanegashima, who will probably play against Sanada (although the only interaction they had is Shuuji stealing water from him and Kaido

Konomi

It would be great if someone posted here nowadays' 1st string. Kikumaru is probably taking Niou's place... but there are still a lot of great players that don't have a place in this 1st string (Akutsu, Ryoma, Sanada, Fuji, Kirihara, Shiraishi, Kikumaru, Kaidoh, Inui, Tachibana, Chitose and the mighty forgotten bros

Oshitari (the good one), Sengoku, Jirou, Kamio, etc...

[Phantron]

I can also see Fuji vs Ryoga if you have a tag team match against Byodouin since that takes care of Ryoma and Tokugawa who clearly have to show up in the final 4 games.

Duke already played Gin.

Again I don't see how the remaining 4 matches won't have Akutsu, Sanada, Ryoma, and Tokugawa in it, so there's only one other possible person that can be in it. I mean sure the story can always throw a curveball like having 10 guys play against Byodouin at the same time but that'd be impossible to try to second guess. Assuming that the next 4 games are intended to be played by 5 people (3Xsingle + 1Xdouble) Fuji obviously has priority over everyone else in terms of screen time just due to the fact he hasn't played a game yet.

[Hardy]

Duke already played Gin.

Yeah, but I thought he might play another time.

Fuji obviously has priority over everyone else in terms of screen time just due to the fact he hasn't played a game yet.

If that's the case, then Zaizen will play against Byodouin lol.

[-Ken-]

Duke played his match. Otherwise. someone should challenge Atobe/Niou to another match. Duke really shouldn't play another match until the next G10 set or something.

Also, random, but Fuji+Akutsu. No reason. It's just that people's been screaming for Fuji match for a while now. And there's not that much spot open anymore.

[Hardy]

Imagine something like this happened:

Tokugawa challenges Byodouin.

Byodouin : "You again? I'm not inresested... Duke, take care of him"

Duke: "yes boss".

Or something like that

It's not too crazy, I see that more probable that Duke staying as the number 3, surrounded by Ms.