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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
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but you've pretty much hit the nail on the head with anastasia's ability - it has no limit and is too convenient...i read a fake spoiler (might've been for this past chapter or the one before it) that said anastasia was starting to go bald...kinda funny to think about, but i could at least stop and say "ok, that makes sense..."
Anyone notice Roxanne doesn't seem very good at regeneration? She never heals that bite out of her head, wheras any other AO seems to have instant regen properties. Not to mention alot of people assume Rox was a defensive type. Cassandra seems to have out of this world regeneration abilities.
When i read one of the translations earlier it pointed out that when Miria called out Hysteria by her name that it was the first time she heard it. I'm too lazy to go and check previous chapters, but if that's true it would have been a great plot point after she heard it to all of a sudden have a flashback of how she died.
A flashback of Hysteria's death would be quite interesting. It might even be more interesting than this slow ongoing battle between Miria and Hysteria. But i don't think that we will get a flashback of her now that she is awakened.Quote:
Hmm maybe, it just looks to me like she has a contant bite out of her head through the whole chapter, but then again maybe I'm overestimating the length of time that the chapter represents, the whole thing was probably only a minute or so in real time :P
Also agreeing on the Hysteria hearing her name point, doubt we'll ever get any additional backstory on her, it just seems like such a needlessly wasted opportunity.
yup, I agree it was a wasted opportunity, would have been great to see a flashback of how she massacred every single warrior sent after her.
I seriously hope by the next chapter that the barrage of spears that Roxy shoot out ends up taking out Hysteria, compared to the size of the other 2 ZAO's, it'll be hard to dodge all those shots especially if they're massive in size. If not maybe Roxanne will take out a huge fly swatter and smash it against Hysteria
I don't think enough thought was put into the awaken forms of Cassandra, Roxxane and Hysteria. Riful, Isley and Luciella all had very distinct awaken forms that were well thought out and designed, where as these three new no.1 could just be like a regular AB in their awakened form. It just do not cry out 'AO' to me.
It would have been a much better story had Isley and Riful are both still alive and the ghost are forced to interact with them or fight them. They are far more interesting characters that seems to be wasted when so much effort was made early on to build their mythos, in both personality and design.
Weee, Fenrir is here! And with his original avatar as well!
You are probably feeling that lack of "omnipotence" Sagara, which is what I went through not that long ago (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=309), (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=312) an Abyssal is no longer this almost non-existent mythological-like thing, but just another scale in the power-chart....it's no longer something to be feared/revered. Doesn't help that these new ZAOs almost spit on the legacy the originals left behind....they have potential, but so far, we just have one warrior who keeps saying 'shit', another who just loves to mess with her, and a third who can't seem to decide to take a fight seriously or not.
As for the scanlation....meh, so far, not feeling much that's different from the translations - I can get why people feel annoyed with Deneve, as ever, and the tone of this chapter...it definitely increased the conventional-feeling in every way, from all the warriors putting themselves together, to Hysteria blatently ignoring the Ghosts as well as her back-and-forth nature...
I mean, Deneve finally had her moment and preached to Miria that people dying has to be expected, but the proclaims here that nobody can afford to die...I completely get why some people find that hilarious. Alot of these things may be considered subjective and we are just poking for the sake of it, but, in a sense, that's the price that's paid with the ambiguity....If Yagi wanted to at least veer people in a certain direction and not let too many people perceive some things a certain way (like Deneve acting contradictory with these texsts), he could have changed things a little to limit that.
And you can call it minor or not, but I seriously hope Yagi makes up his mind whether to keep Miria's X-scar or not, and hope that he remembers he needs to explain why, and not just, say, keep it because it looks cool.
Personally though, I'm happy to say that, reading the scanlation....I don't think Hysteria will get in the way of the ZAOs - the way she brought them up feels like a sense of fear, or concern to me....I honestly, or at least hopefully, feel like she's just messing with Miria and Miria is gravelly underestimating her.
Unfortunately though, I also got a sense of annoyance in why Hysteria can't land a killing blow...I'm sick of seeing shoulders and other parts sliced - when she was introduced, she went THROUGH Miria...I want to see that lethality again.
I mean really....enough is enough; I loved Hysteria for that sense of dread she gave before, and it came back briefly when she threatened Anastasia...I want to see that again -- I'm tired of seeing a technique vs technique battle between Hysteria vs Miria, which is all their fight as Claymores were before, and seems like that's all it is now as well...
I mean, I knew playing around was the only reason Roxanne was fighting Cassandra in the first place and Cassie was just responding accordingly (though you could theorize that Roxanne is keeping her in check because, perhaps due to her mental state, she'd go berserk without somebody to fight)....Hysteria feels like she just keeps making the same mistake over and over again -- her death at Miria's hands should have been enough to make her want to kill her, instead she's seemingly getting overconfident again (or so we here), and...
Just, enough....enough with the back-and-forth - I swear; I don't want any of the ZAOs to die anytime soon...but if Hysteria dies in this matter, it will be like spitting on the original Big Three twice-over...
If nothing else, it does feel like things cannot be dragged on any further, so, whatever happens next chapter, something has got to give...the question is, what?
Well, we can theorize on that, but I'm feel relived that this isn't being dragged on any farther, thank god.
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Mentioning ambiguity, one thing I think the original Abyssals had in their favour was just that. They weren't overexposed; they appeared only periodically and unexpectedly, and each time revealed only a little bit more about their personalities and powers than we'd previously seen. They popped up, did some major damage, and were gone in a flash, but there was always this sense that you knew they were lurking somewhere out there even in arcs where they weren't even mentioned. With the ZAOs, we've just had a massive block of chapters of getting every piece of info about them, backstories, powers, personalities, extended fight scenes, and it's becoming laborious. They don't have that menance about them, where you don't know what they're gonna do or are capable of. We're desensitised.
However I agree that their designs are somewhat inferior to the originals too, they're more try-too-hard, attempting to be more complex and strange where the originals were more focused and streamlined, but equally powerful and more cohesive abilities.
Exactly....The original Abyssals had a feeling of legendary....at the time, it was a rare thing to even know they existed; it was like they were dragons or something....some fearful, yet awesome, at the same time.....unfortunately, progression all but destroyed that -- the clear-cut lines disappeared as stronger and stronger beings overtime showed up, humans could kill yoma, and people can become stronger if they'd just believe in themselves. Now, as I say, instead of being this awe-inspiring thing....it's just another spot in the power-chart - the way Deneve casually said their were 3 AO-level beings, made me feel as much.
And Priscilla? It's only a matter of time before she's dwarfed as well.
Exactly. Where rank #1 Claymores and ABs started out as feeling like these mythical, transient beings that you'd hope to catch a glympse of, now we've actually seen more of them then any other rank of Claymore/AB and they've just become the norm.
One thing I'll say about Hysteria, I've come to feel like she's fascinated by Miria. She probably doesn't even realise it herself, but in terms of speed she's never even come close to being challenged by anyone in all her time. It kind of reminds me of when Rigardo was ecastatic that Clare was putting up such a fight, he said he'd been so bored of not having a solid challenge since his fight with Isley. She's loving this fight with Miria, even if she doesn't understand it herself, it's probably really stimulating her, she's so curious at what Miria can do and subconciously doesn't want to end it straight off. She might never get this sensation again. At least that's what I got out of it, could be completely wrong, but some of her comments point to that, though it's totally not an excuse for some of the poor performances she's been putting up.
As Dark Knight pointed out everyone is happy here, Cassandra and Roxanne are both smiling and there's no progress.
On Roxanne and Deneve I completely agree.
Last edited by Goral; March 06, 2012 at 04:00 AM.
Claymores using their version of Aphrodite A's breast missile.
I can't unsee!