Naruto 574 Discussion

[uchich sishui]

Training Sasuke from the start could have let Sasuke stay in Konoha and would have taken away one of Akatsuki's trump cards and would have prevented a lot of trouble for our hero Naruto. And what does Nagato have to do with any of this? He is one of the three great ninja Jiraiya trained, the other two being Minato and Naruto.

believe me that guy's life was easy.if it comes to the path of life he only had one choice the moment he killed his first ninja,that innocent boy went of him and the genocidal spirit of blood lust entered into him though he didnt quite understand what happened.and even naruto faced more challenges in life than sasuke it is just a matter of belief.even though it was his brother that did add more fuel to the fire naruto had suppresed in his life.even jiraya choosed the path to die when he had an escaping chance,cuz he made a mistake by sheltering and training those three so it was his burden to erase his own creation,as itachi also felt like but there was tobi who dyed him into such dabling colour he his now both the burden of oro,jiraya,nagato and itachi was placed in the arms of a single boy.if it was sasuke what a lost soul would b that rouge ninja

[samsiufan]

I think the advantage should be tempered by the side effect. Some low points are more prevailant/noteworthy than others. Like a shortened lifespan for example. Seriously, a side effect that doesn't happen until you're in your golden years. So terrible! Going blind in about a week? Little more detrimental.

That's what happens when you go around spamming amaterasu and susanoo. Madara was the same. Both Sasuke and Madara did not understand responsibility.

Anyway - Who will do what between Sasuke and Naruto - who knows...guaranteed it is older RS son v younger RS son

[mattiaildivino]

Sasuke suppresed the chakra of the Kyubi leaking towards Naruto. Those were Kurama's words anyways 'suppressed my power=chakra' He did not 'seal' the Kyubi like you said in your previous post. Furthermore, where is proof that Tobi used normal Sharingan or that he does not possess MS to control the Kyubi? There is nothing concrete known about Tobi or his Sharingan, yet you make up facts off your head. If Kishimoto writes that Tobi does not have MS then fine. One needs to be sure before stating something as a fact and the only fact is that Tobi is quite the mysterious fellow. Also you keep assuming that his space time jutsu is related to his sharingan. I am not so sure about that either. For example, he might have inherited the Tobirama cells somehow and borrowed the name - Tobi-rama could use space time jutsu.

I hardly think that tobi's sharingan is a MS,because it is too equal to a 3rd level sharingan. but you are right,we can't be sure he hasn't got the MS,although we can assume he hasn't it since he didn't show it not even while he was being defeated (when he fought minato) or to do something which required the MS (control kurama). about the space-time jutsu,the spiral belongs to his right eye,that is the sharingan,even now that he disposes of the rinnegan,the spiral still originates from his right eye.

[ninjabot]

That's what happens when you go around spamming amaterasu and susanoo. Madara was the same. Both Sasuke and Madara did not understand responsibility.

Anyway - Who will do what between Sasuke and Naruto - who knows...guaranteed it is older RS son v younger RS son

You are aware that the first fight Sasuke ever used MS in resulted in diminished eyesight, correct? Right after fighting Bee. He used one Amaterasu, and one Tsukuyomi. While resting back at the hideout he went ot grab a glass of water and accidentally knocked it over. I don't consider using 2 MS jutsu spamming, especially since one of them was his first try. Spamming had nothing to do with it.

[mattiaildivino]

You are aware that the first fight Sasuke ever used MS in resulted in diminished eyesight, correct? Right after fighting Bee. He used one Amaterasu, and one Tsukuyomi. While resting back at the hideout he went ot grab a glass of water and accidentally knocked it over. I don't consider using 2 MS jutsu spamming, especially since one of them was his first try. Spamming had nothing to do with it.

we have to admit that sasuke used itachi's MS to throw amaterasu to tobi in volume 43,although it wasn't his own MS,his eye turned into that,therefore he might ahve been affected. furthermore,he used the MS on a ninja of the Cloud http://www.mangareader.net/93-413-3/...apter-408.html ,and he didn't just use amaterasu on Bee,he used even the right eye to make amaterasu stop both on karin http://www.mangareader.net/93-420-6/...apter-415.html and on Bee http://www.mangareader.net/93-420-10...apter-415.html

[mattiaildivino]

re-reading some random posts throughout this discussion,I saw some people who complained how suigetsu could know that the scroll he had just found could turn tides in the current war,since suigetsu just knew there was a war and doesn't know the details. simply,I think he doesn't need why the war is being fought,there must be something so great in that scroll (as Madara's secrets or new weapons/army) which can allow to win any war.

[Jeosh]

a little difficult for sasuke to win against naruto, due to the power of the souls of the tailed beasts and speed boost that kurama gave naruto.
And also remember when Tsunade said they will live the thunder good technique for him, and later naruto appears, that techique will really have naruto flying

[mattiaildivino]

a little difficult for sasuke to win against naruto, due to the power of the souls of the tailed beasts and speed boost that kurama gave naruto.
And also remember when Tsunade said they will live the thunder good technique for him, and later naruto appears, that techique will really have naruto flying

actually,tsunade was referring not to waste the hiraishin for her,but to use it in order to have a suiton user among them,that is the 5th mizukage Mei Terumi. that's the real reason behind tsnade's speech . by the way,I doubt whether that technique will really be useful for naruto or not: I mean,he is fast enough now even without that