Fairy Tail 272 Discussion

[exacta]

http://www.mangareader.net/135-21280...apter-144.html
http://www.mangareader.net/135-21281...apter-145.html
http://www.mangareader.net/135-21281...apter-145.html

Those links are after that battle and show that she was not conscious of what she was doing while performing Uranometoria. In the third link she's even confused as to why shes so exhausted and why Angel is so wounded.

http://www.mangareader.net/135-21280...apter-144.html
And theres Hibiki referring to this as a one-time transfer of the data on how to cast the spell. I don't remember a scene where Lucy talks about what happened, I looked and couldn't find one, if anyone does feel free to show me.

[Uriel]

Damn you seem to be right. Then Gemini told her :P

[JunKisaragi]

I'm glad that Lucy has shown that much growth due to their "training", but her loss leaves a bitter aftertaste in my mouth. It would have been epic if that spell landed, but alas, Raven Tail had to cheat.

I guess they (FT members) were so into the fight that they all let their guards down. I mean, you're not supposed to be in any danger if you're just watching, right? So thank you, Natsu.

As for that weakling Flare, she cowered in fear while Lucy was casting Uranometria yet she had the guts to trashtalk after her "win". Tch.

Yajima did notice that something's up. I guess he'll just play along to find out what that something is.

BTW, is Obra the little devil or the one with the mask, or both? I'm pretty sure that the little devil was the one who dispelled Uranometria (as it was waving at Flare) but the guy with the mask also "laughed" (I suppose he was laughing). Hmm...

As for the spell itself, Uranometria, I'm guessing she learned it from Crux. I'm thinking that before, Hibiki uploaded into her the full spell, power and all, with her just being a vessel. In this chapter however, she had to recreate it and she needed double her current power to conjure such spell maybe due to the nature of the spell itself (they don't call it "Ultimate Magic of the Stars" for nothing).

EDIT (ADD): At first I thought that it could have been Gemini who told her. Although in this Chapter, it was shown that Gemini would only have memory of the last instance they copied someone. Like when Gemini appeared in the arena with just the towel on.

In Lucy's fight with Angel, Gemini has already been unsummoned by Angel when Lucy cast Uranometria. So that would mean Gemini wouldn't have knowledge of the spell.

And wait a sec, did Lucy summon Gemini without her even holding their key? Ooh...part of the perks of the power-up?

Oh well, a lot of guesswork here, I did enjoy this chapter and I'm looking forward to that one chapter where Raven Tail gets theirs. Hoping Acnologia would show up and swoop down on their asses. Hahaha!

[Krono]

From what it sounds like she never asked Hibiki since he's surprised, plus there was never any mention of any training back then before Tenrou Island, and they only had about a week to find a partner before the exam. The gap between this arc and Tenrou Island in which Lucy could've developed this spell as a result of most of their 3 months being lost is very short. You'd figure she'd use something like that in the fight against Hades if she could. Right after Oracion Seis was Edolas, there wasn't much of a timegap there either. There was no time for her to train. For her to be able to use this without any mention of it for the past 100+ chapters since its use and without much time for training, when its supposed to be an extremely difficult spell seems a bit much.

Several days passed from the end of the Oracion Seis arc, to the start of the Edoras arc. This includes both the time after Wendy's arrival at Fairy Tail, and more importantly, the time after Jellal's arrest to the time that Wendy arrived at Fairy Tail. Cait Shelter disappearing isn't the only thing that would have happened in this stretch of time. That's the stretch of time in which the alliance of guilds would have been exchanging explanations of things that happened that the others missed, figuring out how everyone was going to get back home, and saying goodbyes. This is when Lucy like would have gotten more details from Hibiki about how she defeated Angel, and learned about Uranometria.

Then after the Edoras arc, and indeterminate amount of time, but probably a few weeks passed before the start of the Tenrou Island arc. Then after they returned from Tenrou Island weeks passed before they learned of the tournament and decided to participate.

All told, that's at least a couple of months for her to be attempting to learn it in, though she likely didn't have much success in actually casting it until after Ultear's power up. Hence why she'd still been practicing it recently, and Gemini's comments on them not having practiced enough to be sure it'd work.

Hibiki's surprise is easily explained by him being surprised she was able to learn it in what was a few short months for her, rather than him being surprised that she knows the spell exists.

Particularly when you look at Dragon and Fly Scan's version, and see that his line there is "Is that what I think it is?!" rather than Mangastream's "That magic... it couldn't be!!". We'll have to wait for a raw to say which translation is more accurate, but either way he does not seem more than mildly surprised, and somewhat happy/admiring that Lucy's learned the spell.

I don't remember a scene where Lucy talks about what happened, I looked and couldn't find one, if anyone does feel free to show me.

We don't need a scene of Lucy talking about it, with either Hibki, or with Gemini to figure that it happened. It's perfectly logical that they'd talk about what happened to Racer, Angel, Midnight, Cobra, and Brain/Zero, and that everyone would want to know the whole story of everyone's battles. Likewise it's perfectly logical that Lucy would be curious as to how Angel was injured to the point of defeat.

[shuha27]

I really hope there is a chapter where Grey, Wendy, and Lucy get their own revenge against Raven Tail. I really want to see Raven Tail them get their butts kicked

Did Lucy summon Gemini without their keys?
http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/99679570/11

[MechR]

black lightning...I think Laxus Vs the armored mage of Raven Tail ?

Nah, RT just finished their match for this round. I'm betting it's the Jecht-looking guy from Sabertooth.

Speaking of black lightning... He's not gonna be the Lightning God Slayer, is he?

[Shadow Limiter]

From what has happened until now, i think the strange magical energy which Jellal talked about is somehow related to the reactions the audience is giving to the people who have failed in the tournament.

I have a feeling that there has been some sort of spell been performed on the tournament area which collects all the negative feelings of the audience (which they are creating against the losing team especially FT in this tournament) and turns it into dark magical energy, in the same way Mavis turned everyone's positive emotions to magical energy in order to activate Fairy Sphere.

[ca12nag3]

From what has happened until now, i think the strange magical energy which Jellal talked about is somehow related to the reactions the audience is giving to the people who have failed in the tournament.

I have a feeling that there has been some sort of spell been performed on the tournament area which collects all the negative feelings of the audience (which they are creating against the losing team especially FT in this tournament) and turns it into dark magical energy, in the same way Mavis turned everyone's positive emotions to magical energy in order to activate Fairy Sphere.

as it seems there is a balance with every magic typ there is no doubt there is a alternate Fairy Sphere for the negative. I dont think it will be shown or used , and especially not with the crowd. There is a purpose other then honoring the magical power of the country to this tournament but its not some device or spell for emotions

[exacta]

We don't need a scene of Lucy talking about it, with either Hibki, or with Gemini to figure that it happened. It's perfectly logical that they'd talk about what happened to Racer, Angel, Midnight, Cobra, and Brain/Zero, and that everyone would want to know the whole story of everyone's battles. Likewise it's perfectly logical that Lucy would be curious as to how Angel was injured to the point of defeat.

Several days is a short amount of time in the grand scheme of things. It was supposed to be a high-level spell, someone like Lucy shouldn't be able to master a spell like that in a few days. She definitely shouldn'tve had enough time to complete it in the current arc. A short few months would seem a bit much to me but I guess I could see it....but almost all of the 3 months in which she could've trained was lost when they went to the Stellar Spirit World. Which means she would've been able to do it last arc if she had learned it, which makes me wonder why she didn't seeing as FT was almost screwed alot of times in that arc. If Lucy at any point grew so much she could use Uranometoria by herself, Mashima should've wrote about it.

I honestly don't even care, Lucy vs Flare is not exactly the highlight of this arc. I'm glad her match is over, want to see some of Mashimas more interesting characters fight. Just pointing something out.

[matzik1212]

I wanna screammmmm . God i can't believe this is what happened to make Lucy the noble loser . Can't believe nobody except FT sensed that other members from RT interfered with Lucy then , i mean i'm positive this dude from the judges sensed something was off but he still didn't do anything . And those idiots spectators are always annoying me with their remarks about FT . I just wanna see those bastards from RT humiliated already and not in a easy way , please Natsu give them a hardcore humiliation

To tell you the truth the main reason i gave this chapter an epic vote was 'cause of Natsu , yeah this chapter he rocked . But Lucy did a good job as well in the end though it's a pity those cheated in the end 'cause otherwise that bitach would have been KOed . Damn can't believe she had the nerve to laugh in Lucy's face knowing the weakling she is

[frozen18ice]

anybody noticed this
http://www.mangareader.net/135-7118-...chapter-3.html
compare to this
http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/271/6
most of the other ones she summon dont change other than virgo in the start was base on her perception. aquarious is one of the strongest be we all know she works
i wonder because leo, capricon, aquarious, scopio, they dont change or will they

[exacta]

I wanna screammmmm . God i can't believe this is what happened to make Lucy the noble loser . Can't believe nobody except FT sensed that other members from RT interfered with Lucy then , i mean i'm positive this dude from the judges sensed something was off but he still didn't do anything . And those idiots spectators are always annoying me with their remarks about FT . I just wanna see those bastards from RT humiliated already and not in a easy way , please Natsu give them a hardcore humiliation

Come to think of it your right it is odd that none of the other contestants noticed anything....I mean at the very least you'd figure the DS's from Sabertooth would. Then again we have no idea exactly what Obra did. Maybe FT figured it was RT just because from their point of view its clearly obvious they're out to humiliate them. I hope that Raven Tail will play a part in another story in the future to though. Wouldn't want their role to just stop at playing dirty in the tournament. All this taunting by the crowd reminds me of the Dark Tournament.

[BlackHair]

Srsly Mavis, Makarov and the rest of the guild are there but no one notices her hair, except Natsu. Wasn't his trait good nose instead of ear? Or am I mixing it up with Toriko? Not important anyway, just disappointed at the rest of the guild. I understand Mashima intended to make us hate RT, but this scenario made me look down on Mavis and Makarov (once again). Could have been written better/differently I think. Starting with the RT girls magic power.

As to Lucy's Uranumetria, Im not sure why she can use it. If I remember right, she couldn't recall using it the first time, so why can she she use it? There are no hints in the manga that she learned it from Hibiki and giving his reaction I hardly think she asked him. Lucy's Uranu and Natsu's lighting fire, Mashima should explain these more properly instead of leaving it to the readers imaginations. Hopefully there are some explaining coming in future chapters.

I voted "average". It was Orga who saved this chapter for me. Besides that Im also glad that this fight ended in this chapter.

[MONKEYS]

Nah, RT just finished their match for this round. I'm betting it's the Jecht-looking guy from Sabertooth.

Speaking of black lightning... He's not gonna be the Lightning God Slayer, is he?

Oh, that would be so awesome!

So, considering the next chapter is named "Orga of the black lightning" (not Obra btw, the guy who Flare noted as dispelling Uranometria), I'm guessing this Orga guy is from Sabretooth, and next chapter's battle is against FT B. I think the organisers are part of the enemy here, and they're trying to snuff out the biggest threat (ie FT). Hopefully it will be Laxus vs Orga, and it's some epic lightning battle (assuming Orga is the lightning god slayer)

I also hope the other guild's battles are skipped, but the results still shown, and maybe a frameshot of the finishing blow of each. Not many of the other guild members interest me (except for Jura).

Also, can't wait for Jellal to enter the fray.

[frozen18ice]

As to Lucy's Uranumetria, Im not sure why she can use it. If I remember right, she couldn't recall using it the first time, so why can she she use it? There are no hints in the manga that she learned it from Hibiki and giving his reaction I hardly think she asked him. Lucy's Uranu and Natsu's lighting fire, Mashima should explain these more properly instead of leaving it to the readers imaginations. Hopefully there are some explaining coming in future chapters.

I voted "average". It was Orga who saved this chapter for me. Besides that Im also glad that this fight ended in this chapter.

i say gemini, he/she copy a persons memories and everything that person have done they mention that they have not practiced much. meaning gemini copied lucy knows about the skill told lucy about it she does not remember but it happened so it can be copied in geminis data base