Fairy Tail 272 Discussion

[OtakuModeEngage]

By all indications, the power he received from Laxus ran out after the Hades fight. The lightning-fire mode had weakened because Natsu was now performing it entirely on his own. Now he's got the power up from Ultear, though whether that'll strengthen the mode, or just allow him to use it without exhausting himself is up in the air.

Sorry, let me rephrase my statement. I wonder If the lightning ability Lexus gave him will run out all together, we know it didn't disappear after he fought Hades, because he used it on a guild member, but It was severely weakened, so it plausible that he will lose the ability to use lightning all together. That is what I was referring to, that without two abilities he is defiantly a grade below them.

As for all the claims that Lucy has not had enough time to memorize the spell, that is bullshit, as it was magically implanted in her brain, so there is no need to memorize, I dare say she could never forget if she tried. The real question is whether she could gather the power and skill to use it, and the answer to that is yes; the power required was undoubtedly given by Ultear.

[Krono]

Sorry, let me rephrase my statement. I wonder If the lightning ability Lexus gave him will run out all together, we know it didn't disappear after he fought Hades, because he used it on a guild member, but It was severely weakened, so it plausible that he will lose the ability to use lightning all together. That is what I was referring to, that without two abilities he is defiantly a grade below them.

By "power from Laxus" I mean both the raw power in general, and the lightning ability itself. When asked "Since when could you do that?" Natsu replied "just now", not "since Tenrou Island" meaning that he'd long since lost everything Laxus gave him, and had succeeded in duplicating the lightning-fire state on his own just then.

As for all the claims that Lucy has not had enough time to memorize the spell, that is bullshit, as it was magically implanted in her brain, so there is no need to memorize, I dare say she could never forget if she tried. The real question is whether she could gather the power and skill to use it, and the answer to that is yes; the power required was undoubtedly given by Ultear.

Hibiki called it a "one time transfer" of the spell. Combined with the trance like state Lucy cast the spell in, and her lack of awareness of what happened immediately afterwards, the natural assumption was that Hibiki had done something akin to transferring a program to her that ran once and deleted itself, rather than something like teaching her the spell and have her automatically cast it once.

[OtakuModeEngage]

A 'one time transfer' means it is only transferred once, that doesn't imply that it only last for the transfer period, that would be a 'one time use'. Perhaps after the information is transferred it may be lost, but we can not surmise that from the statement; a statement that only regards the transfer and not its lasting impact. And really, where else would she learn the spell, if I recall correctly, was it not akin to a lost magic or a secret spell?

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Have we ever seen a mage use more than one Magic... Uriel can use ice and time, so I suppose its possible for Natsu to learn how to use lightning... but there is a difference between lightning magic and lightning dragon magic. I don't know if we've ever seen someone with two lost magics, and I doubt its something you can just learn on your own, or so quickly for that matter; Natsu still doesn't have the full abilities of his fire dragon magic. No, if he still has lightning dragon magic, its because Laxus had a lasting effect on his magic.

[Kisame Hoshigaki]

I will not comment in detail, because before I want to read chapter 273, but for now I think that the chapter sucks (in fact I am the one who voted bad in the poll).

In the truth only the end sucks, I really liked the beginning of it, but what happened at the end ruined everything.

To tell the truth is not even the fact that Raven Tail cheated that ruined everything, what really sucks is what happened to Flare's characters.

In fact at the beginning (at the beginning of the fight) she was like this http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/270/4 http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/270/24, but at the end of the fight she was so http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/272/12 http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/272/14 http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/272/15.
She has become really pathetic.

In fact I would accepted (also if whit some difficult) also if the Raven Tail cheated if only Flare tried to stop Lucy's attack, instead she was so frightened that she could not even move, she was petrified with fear, she has made **** in her pants.
And the fact that she was humiliated by Lucy has worsened it.
Because also if I was sure that Lucy would have obtained the most power up together to Natsu, this is too much, also because she did not even used Leon and Acquarius (but for Acquarius is a natural thing, there was not water there).

people who cheat to gain an advantage often wilt under pressure or when their plan fails

this is what happened to flair

[Krono]

A 'one time transfer' means it is only transferred once, that doesn't imply that it only last for the transfer period, that would be a 'one time use'. Perhaps after the information is transferred it may be lost, but we can not surmise that from the statement; a statement that only regards the transfer and not its lasting impact. And really, where else would she learn the spell, if I recall correctly, was it not akin to a lost magic or a secret spell?

It's the "one time transfer" thing in combination with the other things that makes people think it was lost after use. Plus it's rather silly to call it a one time transfer just to say "I'll only need to transfer this to you once." The spell itself is presumably written in a book somewhere, Hibiki just called it a top-level spell, not a lost magic, or secret spell. Lucy would have to do a bit of searching, assuming she didn't just ask Hibiki where she could learn the spell, but it shouldn't be that difficult to find to learn.

Have we ever seen a mage use more than one Magic... Uriel can use ice and time, so I suppose its possible for Natsu to learn how to use lightning... but there is a difference between lightning magic and lightning dragon magic. I don't know if we've ever seen someone with two lost magics, and I doubt its something you can just learn on your own, or so quickly for that matter; Natsu still doesn't have the full abilities of his fire dragon magic. No, if he still has lightning dragon magic, its because Laxus had a lasting effect on his magic.

Many mages have more than one magic. For example, Makarov's guild card lists his magic as "Titan and many others". Mirajane uses transformation magic, Take Over magic, and knows a bit of sleep magic. Macao's guild card lists his magic as Purple Flare, but the description of him goes on to note that he's capable of using transformation magic at a level that even Mirajane can't see through.

Pretty much all magic used, including Dragon Slaying magic is something learned. Laxus's magic can't have simply had a lasting effect on Natsu's magic, because Natsu's Fire DS magic isn't something he possesses like it's an object than can be modified, it's something that he knows how to use.

[Ifrit]

Many mages have more than one magic. For example, Makarov's guild card lists his magic as "Titan and many others". Mirajane uses transformation magic, Take Over magic, and knows a bit of sleep magic. Macao's guild card lists his magic as Purple Flare, but the description of him goes on to note that he's capable of using transformation magic at a level that even Mirajane can't see through. .

In other words. What Bluenote simply said in the bottom right corner

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