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    Re: Joint Review of D. Gray Man 212: Searching for A.W. / Calling For You

    Quote Originally Posted by alphabeta View Post
    Hold it!

    There is no reason to write two full impressions. The OP said two impressions because otherwise one person would be left without any section at all.

    I'm not against writing two impressions, but only if it won't cause unnecesarry troubles.
    hmm, it's pretty hard to merge it othervice though.
    Would either have to organize who writes what, or both write a full impressions and take half half of both works into one.
    That or only one person writes it, unless I'm missing a technique.

    If one enjoys writing, but don't mind that only half goes public, then it's all good (assuming one enjoys writing).
    Which is what I asked for, if anyone enjoys writing and wants it this week

    Would only assign one for the task if no one enjoy writing it, and that would probably be me since that section is under my responsibility.
    I'm allowing it due to the fun and teamwork.

    Hope that helps shedding light on the situation

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    I don't care about the likes and thanks, I just wanna see the project finished

    I can be the first but you know, if someone wants to be, so just be it
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    Re: Joint Review of D. Gray Man 212: Searching for A.W. / Calling For You

    Quote Originally Posted by alphabeta View Post
    Hold it!

    There is no reason to write two full impressions. The OP said two impressions because otherwise one person would be left without any section at all.

    I'm not against writing two impressions, but only if it won't cause unnecesarry troubles.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cezgeth View Post
    hmm, it's pretty hard to merge it othervice though.
    Would either have to organize who writes what, or both write a full impressions and take half half of both works into one.
    That or only one person writes it, unless I'm missing a technique.

    If one enjoys writing, but don't mind that only half goes public, then it's all good (assuming one enjoys writing).
    Which is what I asked for, if anyone enjoys writing and wants it this week

    Would only assign one for the task if no one enjoy writing it, and that would probably be me since that section is under my responsibility.
    I'm allowing it due to the fun and teamwork.

    Hope that helps shedding light on the situation

    Quote Originally Posted by Niko_kun View Post
    I don't care about the likes and thanks, I just wanna see the project finished

    I can be the first but you know, if someone wants to be, so just be it

    You all have a point now that I think of it. And besides, I was stuck looking for gun parts(with my father sitting right beside me and pointing at all the nice shiny night force zero stop thingies I hardly understand) for the whole night during my free time yesterday. And today, I got really busy. I was going to rush my version of the impressions after checking up here, but since this came up, I guess problem solved.

    Niko can do the honors of going first.

    I'll go "Now is not the time" - (Tyrande Whisperwind), for I am still stuck searching for 4 more gun parts.

    Lol-ing, at the reference.

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    Re: Joint Review of D. Gray Man 212: Searching for A.W. / Calling For You

    Can someone explain me why there's no impressions, and more importantly, WHO is writing the impressions?



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    Re: Joint Review of D. Gray Man 212: Searching for A.W. / Calling For You

    We need clear answers, so you don't have to guess what someoe means when posting

    Not gonna mention names, it applies to everyone, including me, we need to be more clear with our words for efficient teamwork. Just a minor but important detail

    I'm assuming Anon is out this week, so there is Niko's Impressions left. Which means we won't have to merge them.
    But once this review is over, we need to discuss how we make the next one, before we start

    Quote Originally Posted by Niko
    This chapter was good, but, once again she completly forgot Lavi. I know she wanna show us everything about the Kanda-Allen-Johnny thing and Allen-Mana-14th relationship but, why the 3rd most popular character isn’t appearing?

    Well, the art once again looks really good, looks like since chapter 205 Hoshino gets a new art style and it’s getting awesome in every single chapter.

    The storyline was interesting, we finally sees Mana’s face that we Always have seen like an freak crazy clown -scared-, Allen once again cries a lot and made my heart broken :/ Johnny really showed how a best friend is like and when Kanda came with his dirty little Alma secret seemed a little yaoi to me xD but, I guess is Hoshino pleasing fanbases haha We didn’t saw the apo-kun –just in allen’s flashback- and I was hoping him to catch the Kanda group and fight with him. D:
    The cliffhanger was the bad thing, I mean, HOW I AM SUPPOSED TO WAIT TWO MONTHS TO SEE HOW IT WILL BE? Damn Hoshino, I don’t know why you like to make us suffer like this every single month! T_T

    I was hoping a little more fighting but, in the whole thing, I liked the chapter.
    So as it stands, we need to correct language and typo's, and we're reaching the goal line.

    There are two ways to do this the way I see it, either we each take on a color and correct the language and typo's ourselves, and then together take a look on each corrections, putting it together (slow version).
    The speedy version on the other hand, we select someone from the team to do the typo's and language.

    It could for example be that a good "story teller" corrects language, and one who is good with English checks the spellings and context.

    Will post more tonight, if anyone have suggestions or voluntere for these jobs, let me know

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    Re: Joint Review of D. Gray Man 212: Searching for A.W. / Calling For You

    Sure, proofreading is good, but spending more time on the details than the actual review is a bad idea. IMHO, the whole review should be put together, someone (Cez?) should make a quick rundown, correct the most obvious typos, (forget everything about re-writing) and than post the final review. We've passed the original deadline already a week ago. We can improve our techniques next review.

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    Re: Joint Review of D. Gray Man 212: Searching for A.W. / Calling For You

    Quote Originally Posted by alphabeta View Post
    Sure, proofreading is good, but spending more time on the details than the actual review is a bad idea. IMHO, the whole review should be put together, someone (Cez?) should make a quick rundown, correct the most obvious typos, (forget everything about re-writing) and than post the final review. We've passed the original deadline already a week ago. We can improve our techniques next review.
    Agreed. This one is like an experiment because i think no one had never done it before, so the next one will be better (:
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    Re: Joint Review of D. Gray Man 212: Searching for A.W. / Calling For You

    Just a little tired of this, you have to walk a fine line between teamwork and management, which is a very difficult thing -_-
    It's much easier to just be direct and force people, afterall. But then, where is the teamwork?
    Teamwork is what this is all about, removing the teamwork, then where is the team?

    Anyhow, I'll put it together then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cezgeth View Post
    Just a little tired of this, you have to walk a fine line between teamwork and management, which is a very difficult thing -_-
    It's much easier to just be direct and force people, afterall. But then, where is the teamwork?
    Teamwork is what this is all about, removing the teamwork, then where is the team?

    Anyhow, I'll put it together then.
    Where's your enthusiasm?

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    is it better if we wait for the 213 night ? its just 1 week far .... and we could separate the sections and stuff.... :/
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    Re: Joint Review of D. Gray Man 212: Searching for A.W. / Calling For You

    Quote Originally Posted by Niko_kun View Post
    is it better if we wait for the 213 night ? its just 1 week far .... and we could separate the sections and stuff.... :/
    Niko would you be kind and try put it together, correct some of the languages and typos?
    Copy paste it together into a new post
    Also I think you should be the first to post it once it's release ready.

    I'm very busy right now, and I don't think I'll be around for the next months release, since I got 2 educations simultaneously and an upcoming business which eats all my time.

    So want to put it out there, there needs to be elected a new D.Gray-Man captain.

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    Re: Joint Review of D. Gray Man 212: Searching for A.W. / Calling For You

    Quote Originally Posted by Cezgeth View Post
    Niko would you be kind and try put it together, correct some of the languages and typos?
    Copy paste it together into a new post
    Also I think you should be the first to post it once it's release ready.

    I'm very busy right now, and I don't think I'll be around for the next months release, since I got 2 educations simultaneously and an upcoming business which eats all my time.

    So want to put it out there, there needs to be elected a new D.Gray-Man captain.
    I can try But my english isn't that well so, if you see a mistake even after I tried to correct them, tell me

    ---------- Post added at 09:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:35 AM ----------



    D. Gray Man 212: Searching for A.W. / Calling For You
    A Joint Review

    Hey guys! We (Niko, Jaymie. Unknownymous) made this review for you about the latest chapter of dgm! We are beginners so, we'll be glad if you tell us what you think. -don't be shy xD- Hope you enjoy it and, let's go!


    The chapter begins with Johnny and Kanda chasing after Allen. However, Kanda notices a sinister-looking silhouette that was, in turn, following after them. The way the silhouette was vaguely formed is interesting, because it could be a number of characters, including Fiddler, Link, or even Lulu Bell, whose human form matched the silhouette (not to mention her troubling shapeshifting abilities, which are underused by Hoshino). Throughout the chapter, Kanda repeatedly notices this mysterious person following them, which is Hoshino's way of saying "THIS IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT GUYS!" But more on that later...

    Allen is, once again, succumbing to the Fourteenth's memories, but this time it seems like it's actually going to happen. He also has an interesting hallucination. It's unclear whether Allen was just imagining what he saw, or if he actually saw a bit of Nea's memories. Either way, it is very obvious that it was a younger version of Mana asking Nea if he hates him. The fact that Allen never saw the younger Mana before (Mana was a middle aged man when they first met in the canon novel D.Gray-man Reverse 3) is what really leads me to believe that it was indeed Nea's memory of the past. I hope Hoshino expands on this in the (near) future instead of teasing us even more.

    In the next scene, Kanda and Johnny come to the conclusion that Crown Clown is still protecting Allen despite the fact that he's a Noah. This is an extremely significant revelation. It shows that the Innocence has the same "ends justify the means" stance as the Order and, most importantly, that Nea may not be as evil as he appears. Crown Clown's behavior also addresses the massive plot hole about why Allen isn't dead yet since he's a Noah with an Innocence attached to his body. Jasdevi's arm practically mutated when he came into contact with Innocence, so it was always curious why Allen wasn't affected by the Innocence he was always in contact with.

    Hoshino could pull another deus ex machina to delay Nea's awakening, but I don't think it would be in the best interest of the story. The perfect pieces are now in place for Allen to turn into the Fourteenth. Johnny, Allen's biggest supporter, Kanda, who owes Allen a great debt, and the suspiciously not-dead Link, who was revealed to be Kanda's stalker during the cliffhanger ending. It's quite possible that Link is Lulu Bell in disguise, but I personally believe that it is indeed the real Link at the end of the chapter. Remember when Lvellie asked Zu to save Link because he needed Link to save Allen (and the Fourteenth)? It is likely that Zu saved Link's life, which resulted in Zu's death because he had already used up most of his life force on healing Allen during the Alma Karma arc. It is likely that we will find out what Lvellie wants Link to do in the next chapter. Unfortunately there is a hiatus next month, which is just cruel on top of the cliffhanger, but Hoshino hasn't disappointed in these last few months. Next chapter should be a great one!



    This chapter was good, but, once again she completly forgot Lavi. I know she wanna show us everything about the Kanda-Allen-Johnny thing and Allen-Mana-14th relationship but, why the 3rd most popular character isn’t appearing?

    Well, the art once again looks really good, looks like since chapter 205 Hoshino gets a new art style and it’s getting awesome in every single chapter.

    The storyline was interesting, we finally sees Mana’s face that we Always have seen like an freak crazy clown -scared-, Allen once again cries a lot and made my heart broken :/ Johnny really showed how a best friend is like and when Kanda came with his dirty little Alma secret seemed a little yaoi to me xD but, I guess is Hoshino pleasing fanbases haha We didn’t saw the apo-kun –just in allen’s flashback- and I was hoping him to catch the Kanda group and fight with him. D:
    The cliffhanger was the bad thing, I mean, HOW I AM SUPPOSED TO WAIT TWO MONTHS TO SEE HOW IT WILL BE? Damn Hoshino, I don’t know why you like to make us suffer like this every single month! T_T

    I was hoping a little more fighting but, in the whole thing, I liked the chapter.



    Short term prediction
    Since Allen is fighting with the 14th memories, its a half sure that we could see a little more of this memories, but an akuma could suddenly appear and f*cks everything because Kanda is out there with –is really him?-Link.

    That is another interesting point, I can’t be so sure that is Link in the last page. Since I saw that necklace that apo-chan has. I was wondering why would he appear and hide himself? He has nothing to hide right? ANd then, more possibilities came to me, if that is Lullubel –that we haven’t seen since chapter 195, and it wasn’t in action- or even Cross? But Cross’s possibility was eliminated when I realized that he doesn’t k now what happened to link –i guess.

    To next chapter, I’m really waiting for Lavi –what seems really improbable- but, I guess the most important thing will be what’s Link's goal and will Allen win against 14th’s memories? It’s time to see a little conversation between them?


    Long term Prediction
    The chapter ends with Allen blacking out and Link suddenly coming into the picture. For this prediction, I will focus on two basic parts. One being the Internal Conflict part of the ark, and two being the External Conflict. With the way things are going, I believe it isn't to far off to say that we are now entering something like 'The Growth of Allen Walker' ark. Hoshino did mention it in an interview, and Johnny did as well in 212 page 27.

    Going deeper into the Internal Conflict part of this prediction, I'd like to emphasize a few things:

    "Don't let him sleep", I quote. "If you do, it'll be his end. Allen will be swallowed deep within and disappear." - from Ch 202 - p. 32 and again from Ch 212 - p. 09.
    "THANK YOU!! ALLEN WALKER'S NOW GONE! <3" - Ch 198 p. 10
    And Ch 206 focusing on Cross' conversation with Baba about Allen being merely a vessel to be taken over by the 14th.

    So far those parts of the manga have been repeatedly hinting on Allen being totally consumed by the 14th. Now that Allen has fallen asleep during the change, the prospect of the above happening isn't something we can scratch out that easily.

    But of course, what is a good plot without a loophole or contradiction of sorts no? Well, seeing as how Hoshino pulled a counter phenomenon with Ch 203 p. 17 with Cross saying "When we first met, he didn't call himself 'Allen'..." and the "Should have noticed the mistake sooner!", I can now conclude that she has an awesome way of messing with our brains so much that events are almost unpredictable.

    The next few chapters will possibly cover more about the 14th, Mana, and maybe a hint of why not noticing 'Allen' not being Allen before was a mistake. Whatever type of mistake it is though, I believe it will be something really important, and will probably be a reason why Allen cannot be completely erased. It might even touch the mystery of Allens birth and the reason he was born with Innocence in the first place.


    For the second part of the prediction, we might be seeing a mot more action.

    Lets remember that the Noah's deliberately left Allen alone to lure the Apocryphos to them. With Allen changing and judging by Apo's time of appearance when that first happen, he'll be alive and kicking in the next few chapter. Apocryphos will probably want to get to Allen before everything is too late and there will be an interception between by the Noahs. Apo will focus on Allen, the Noah's on Apo for the time being, Kanda + Link on keeping both sides away....and Johnny on keeping Allen away from the battlefield. The cycle will probably continue until Allen wakes up and changes the flow of the fight with his decision.
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    Re: Joint Review of D. Gray Man 212: Searching for A.W. / Calling For You

    Starts to look like something
    Niko can you by chance change the original size of your banners? In such a way that you don't see the yellow box above the images suggesting to view the original size. The problem is that they're resized, so it would be great if their real size isn't so big, in order to get rid of the resize yellow box thingy.

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    Love your speed Niko, great job on the resize there
    Think the whole product looks pretty good for a first time release, all things considered, so I'll give you the green light to post it in the D.Gray-Man forum

    As for future discussions, we need to have a look on how things work here, also I don't have awful much time either, so it would be ideal if a new captain for D.Gray-Man were elected.
    Before we start a new thread for chapter 213, I think we should use this thread for it's final purpose, getting all the team layout/design & specialities.

    There are different ways to do this, so I would like to call for a discussion on the subject.

    Also Nike, once you posted it, would you mind link the topic in this thread? This way the 2 topics will be linked, for convenience if we're looking back into past releases & work & comments. Just a link here from here to the release post, no need to include a link in the release post

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    Re: Joint Review of D. Gray Man 212: Searching for A.W. / Calling For You

    Quote Originally Posted by Cezgeth View Post
    Starts to look like something
    Niko can you by chance change the original size of your banners? In such a way that you don't see the yellow box above the images suggesting to view the original size. The problem is that they're resized, so it would be great if their real size isn't so big, in order to get rid of the resize yellow box thingy.

    ---------- Post added at 05:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:31 AM ----------

    Love your speed Niko, great job on the resize there
    Think the whole product looks pretty good for a first time release, all things considered, so I'll give you the green light to post it in the D.Gray-Man forum

    As for future discussions, we need to have a look on how things work here, also I don't have awful much time either, so it would be ideal if a new captain for D.Gray-Man were elected.
    Before we start a new thread for chapter 213, I think we should use this thread for it's final purpose, getting all the team layout/design & specialities.

    There are different ways to do this, so I would like to call for a discussion on the subject.

    Also Nike, once you posted it, would you mind link the topic in this thread? This way the 2 topics will be linked, for convenience if we're looking back into past releases & work & comments. Just a link here from here to the release post, no need to include a link in the release post
    sure i can do this! Im faster xDD i wanted to see what people would tell, so I did it faster xDD

    its here guys! http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showth...19#post2838019 lets see the comments and stuff and get better in the next one! haha

    ---------- Post added April 03, 2012 at 05:44 PM ---------- Previous post was March 31, 2012 at 05:21 AM ----------

    people's comments there were awesome, I felt like i've help someone to understand will we do it with the 213rd night ?
    Last edited by Niko_kun; March 31, 2012 at 06:24 AM.
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