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    Re: Minato vs. Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by jdw View Post
    If he flings kunai is different directions, he can jump and re-throw them before Nagato can even target him or the kunai. I don't think it will be as difficult as people are making it seem. At any rate, hard to tag isn't impossible, and Nagato might end up harming his own summons', which is also fine from Minato's perspective.
    Nagato can target entire areas with his Shinra Tensei, blasting Minato and his tags all away in the same direction. Not to mention his missiles. Or even Bansho Tenin, which would bring them all to him. And it would be difficult when Nagato has shown enough speed to blitz the likes of Kirabi and Naruto, both of whom should be about even with Minato's base speed. All Nagato has to do is just get his hands on Minato and he wins. And were him to tag a summon, then Nagato could maneuver it to where it'll be of most use to him.

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    Re: Minato vs. Nagato

    Minato wins via spamming Hiraishin and finding the perfect moment to use rasengan. If Nagato sneaks up behind Minato, that's a one shot kill if Nagato can't react in time.
    I seriously am still amazed at how fast Minato reacted to Tobi sneaking up behind him. Nagato can use shinra tensei, but he'd have to react in time.

    If Nagato is as good as Deva Path in taijutsu, Minato might have some trouble since Deva was able to be on par with Sharingan Kakashi and even Sage Mode Naruto. Chibaku Tensei will work only if Minato doesn't have a kunai far away, which is possible if he's good at throwing.

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    Re: Minato vs. Nagato

    Nagato can counter the Rasengan by keeping his Hungry Path ability up. And if he does like he did against Naruto and co, using his chameleon to hid in, he could get close enough to Bansho Tenin him into range.

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    Re: Minato vs. Nagato

    He can't keep it up constantly though, can he? Otherwise why not let the Path keep the Chakra Absorption field activated throughout the fight? If rasengan does get sucked in, Minato can resort to taijutsu.

    Unless Nagato moves fast enough to attack Minato, Minato can detect the chameleon with his chakra sensing ability. From the looks of it, chameleon would need to open its mouth before Nagato can use Bansho Tenin, which means minato can see him and react in time with HIraishin.

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    Re: Minato vs. Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    He can't keep it up constantly though, can he? Otherwise why not let the Path keep the Chakra Absorption field activated throughout the fight? If rasengan does get sucked in, Minato can resort to taijutsu.

    Unless Nagato moves fast enough to attack Minato, Minato can detect the chameleon with his chakra sensing ability. From the looks of it, chameleon would need to open its mouth before Nagato can use Bansho Tenin, which means minato can see him and react in time with HIraishin.
    True we can't claim that he could keep it active continuously through the whole battle, but Hungry Path kept it up quite a while against Jiraiya, so he should be able to do so here. Minato's sensoring ability seems more general then specific, and if Nagato has is other summons keeping Minato on the move, he wouldn't have time to locate the chameleon and Nagato. And from what we saw, Nagato should be able to employ it right as the mouth opens, so Minato's time to react would be small, even smaller if he's dealing with one of the summons at the time.

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    Re: Minato vs. Nagato

    If there is one thing I learned from naruto, it would be that we cannot assume that a character can or will/should/would/could do something that has not been shown in the manga.

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    Re: Minato vs. Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by KageX View Post
    Thats exactly my point. He has to complete the gap. He didn't teleport inside of the ninja's neck. Minato might be able to teleport to within an inch of the person's neck but that inch is more than enough distance for any ninja in the show that has a counter to it, which nagato does. He could activate shinra tensei to blow minato away. Or if one of his summons are on the battle field and they see Minato appear behind him nagato will know to use a summon http://www.mangareader.net/93-382-16...apter-377.html http://www.mangareader.net/93-382-17...apter-377.html Or he could just simple respond to it himself http://www.mangareader.net/93-382-15...apter-377.html
    It was stated before that nagato has reaction time comparable to kakashi, sage naruto, sage jiriya, rm naruto, and killer bee. I realize That it was the paths that reacted to the first few but i see no reason to believe that a fully healthy(chakra full power, legs perfectly fine) nagato couldn't likewise.
    But all of what i just posted only comes into play after nagato gets tagged...which i don't see happening. Minato has to engage into close combat to mark him with the seal. The fact that nagato has extreme reaction time, more than just 2 arms, multiple versatile summons(that seem to read his mind and have shared vision), can use ST, and if he lands a hit his soul will be ripped out point to the fact that minato wont be overwhelming nagato in taijutsu.

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    Re: Minato vs. Nagato

    @ Rikudou King

    Even if he does, Nagato will have some problem if Minato goes for taijutsu unless Nagato can push him away in time or stop him. Not sure how good Nagato will be if he's already using a path.

    Unless the tags aren't gonna help, Minato will use Hiraishin to get out of the way or prevent Bansho Tenin from hurting him. It'll be very hard to hit Minato with his tags out there, it's his automatic Get Out of Jail Free card.

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    Re: Minato vs. Nagato

    It will take a lot to get rid of Nagato given that he can absorb ninjutsu and defend against Taijutsu using Asura path...

    Bee who decapitated Sasuke with his Lariat didnt get time to do shit to Nagato who even went as far as to gently push him away with Shinra tensei after absorbing his chakra.

    I highly doubt a Rasengan and Taijutsu will do the job given the means he has at his disposal... i honestly think Minato lacks the destructive power to get rid of Nagato. Not that it's impossible.... but he will to work rediculously hard for it.... while Nagato could easily outlast Minato in terms of chakra.... and could also likely end the fight with Shinra tensei as it puts him in control over Minato as with no Kunai near Nagato... Minato cannot do anything at all.
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    Re: Minato vs. Nagato

    minato probably wins, i think minato > jaraiya in sage mode and jaraiya was able to destroy a fraction of the 6paths

    i just think minatos speed and power would give him the edge to remove those chakra rods or whatever and he could win this fight

    tho the fight could easily go either way
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    Re: Minato vs. Nagato

    You people actualy belive Minato can take someone that needed RM Naruto + BEE + Itachi to take down? Come one.


    @Kisame Hoshigaki

    This is not Pein vs Minato, this is Nagato himself vs Minato.


    @M3J

    There is no blind spot with Nagato.. Shared vision dude... Nagato can just CT the aread for a EASY win.

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    Re: Minato vs. Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Even if he does, Nagato will have some problem if Minato goes for taijutsu unless Nagato can push him away in time or stop him. Not sure how good Nagato will be if he's already using a path.

    Unless the tags aren't gonna help, Minato will use Hiraishin to get out of the way or prevent Bansho Tenin from hurting him. It'll be very hard to hit Minato with his tags out there, it's his automatic Get Out of Jail Free card.
    Naruto did note that Nagato himself was fighting faster then with the Paths and we know Deva Path had the reflexes to counter two clones while dodging the FRS inches away. Plus, he has Asura Paths abilities to enhance his own physical abilities.

    Minato would still have to realize he needs to use Hiraishin before he can escape. We saw with Tobi and Ee that a fast enough action could catch him off guard. Nagato was able to catch both Naruto and Kirabi off guard with is Shinra Tensei before they could act. So if he was to combo it with some of his other abilities, like covering the field in missiles or tempting Minato into coming close while being safeguarded by his Hungry Path ability, he should be able to touch Minato before he could Hiraishin away.

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    Re: Minato vs. Nagato

    if Naruto can touch Nagato, I don't see any of you guys think that Nagato can counter Minato speed, Minato teleport isn't the same as moving speed like Bee or Naruto.

    Minato can just create rasengan then teleport his rasengan on his body. LOL

    Saying there is No Blind spot to Nagato, the fact Itachi was able to throw shuriken at blind spot. LOL

    Or Minato can just open a rift and shove it to his head and close it.

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    Re: Minato vs. Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by xXan View Post
    @M3J

    There is no blind spot with Nagato.. Shared vision dude... Nagato can just CT the aread for a EASY win.
    Shared vision works if there's another pair of Nagato's Rin'negan out there that's watching him. Even then, shared vision won't help if Nagato can't react in time.

    Chbaku Tensei will work only if Minato doesn't have a tag out of the area, otherwise he can just Hiraishin out of the field.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    Naruto did note that Nagato himself was fighting faster then with the Paths and we know Deva Path had the reflexes to counter two clones while dodging the FRS inches away. Plus, he has Asura Paths abilities to enhance his own physical abilities.
    Minato does have faster reflexes than Naruto though, and FRS still gave Deva Path enough time to react. If Nagato doesn't anticipate Minato strikin behind him, like Tobi didn't, Nagato will be in trouble.

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    Minato would still have to realize he needs to use Hiraishin before he can escape. We saw with Tobi and Ee that a fast enough action could catch him off guard. Nagato was able to catch both Naruto and Kirabi off guard with is Shinra Tensei before they could act. So if he was to combo it with some of his other abilities, like covering the field in missiles or tempting Minato into coming close while being safeguarded by his Hungry Path ability, he should be able to touch Minato before he could Hiraishin away.
    I don't think Nagato can react fast enough to pull in Minato successfully though. While he may be able to get Minato, Minato can still Hiraishin away or IF he has chains like Kakashi did, use it to avoid being pushed or pulled. Although I think Minato would still move from the impact, Hiraishin should keep him from falling into Nagato's hands. Plus, Minato uses Hiraishin for almost any occasion he's about to be attacked, and if Nagato doesn't anticipate it, Minato can use his kunai to surprise Nagato. Though that really depends since Nagato can push it away or probably realize Minato's plan if he sees the tag on the kunai.

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