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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
"Outer space" is a mistranslation. Ging says "Outside." He's talking about the unexplored world--it's a similar concept to the Gourmet World in Toriko. The chimera ants are an indigenous species to this world.
Last edited by Popo; February 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM.
ANYWAY, I read through the raw and I don't see UFOs mentioned at all. Sounds More like the 'New World' mentioned in One Piece which would make it more like the HXH people here seem to enjoy! YAY!
Popo-san beat me to it. :-P
Last edited by Bomber D Rufi; February 29, 2012 at 11:05 AM.
Meruem was a impossible bug to begin with, but Togashi beautifully set out to write a character who came to full circle in the end. It's his take on the shounen cliche - the next super villain who's all powerful (like Cell). But Togashi went beyond that: he made such all-powerful character to preoccupy with the meaning of his existence. He twisted the genre and made an All-powerful (who's usually all mindless) super villain into a character died 'small', but also with humanity and dignity. Through Meruem, Togashi shared his views on humanity with us. So it's a good chapter in the end.
On the other hand, Aruka is WAY WORST as a bug compare to Meruem. There's at least a full built up to Meruem's appearance. While Aruka came out of nowhere and was given all these bullshit 'rules' that ended up all meaningless. She's now a walking bug whose sole purpose (now it's clear) is to drag Killua off the front stage. That's it, that's the point of this character. I wasn't moved by 336 at all which we were supposed to...she only shows up after 300 chapters and suddenly she's the most important person in Killua's life with this deep bond that was never mentioned once. We're supposed to care but I just don't. Now it's clear that the actual point is to get rid of Killua, just a device to show Killua's 'growth'.
So many questions... ._.'
This is awesome, seriously. I'm speechless. So, the best conclusion you can get right now is that an already big and awesome world that we know has something beyond? Damn, it reminds me so much of the DQ III game (where, right after you finish the game, you find there is another world to explore), and also something similar with this awesome webcomic, the Order of the Stick (see the panels with the elf and the bird dialogue; and it would be awesome if the HxH world was the inside one in this case *-*), that for me is awesome beyond belief. Take that, people who kept saying with so much conviction that the series was ending! And lol to the rabbit/tiger marriage (and mind you, since we never saw much interaction between the zodiac out of conference rooms for election-related discussions, we can't say we know much of their interactions to rule it out).
Also, let's not go crazy into thinking for the rest of the week that we are running towards an "
space-bullshit" arc. It's only that Ging stated what he was doing all this time and what he is going to do/hunt, and only that.
Swordsaged by Popo, and thanks to clearing the space thing. Now it makes even more sense with what I wrote =D
Last edited by heron bpv; February 29, 2012 at 11:18 AM.
Must be post.
Alines usually ruin the story of everything I've read. I don't know, I hope Togashi can work it without throwing everything into shit. I've few expectations, though. Sit and wait.
And please, be nice. I said once to Goral that He wasn't allowed to tell anyone to not post. So it's only fair that I repeat the same to you, Bomber.
Mangehelpers is especially narrow-minded regarding negative critics. There are countless one-lines "yeahhh, it's great" comments on this forum but one constructive argumented negative critic is already not well received.
I praised HxH in the past arc countless times. I think it's just fair to let people express themselves positively OR negatively.
Even hardcore blind fans have to admit that the new world stuff is again coming out of nowhere. It's a logical development though: ants came out of nowhere ... so, the explanation had to come from nowhere as well. It's like Togashi is trying to explain his past mistakes.
When ants were introducted, we had no previous hints about their very existence. Same goes for the new world stuff: the "ants arc" was the longest in the manga & there were NEVER EVER any reference to their origin coming from an "other world".
It's a bad idea from togashi but the execution of the idea can still be better than the idea itself. So, I still have some hope.
It's not the first crazy idea from togashi but at least when he created something as weird as Greed Island, there was some foreshadowing & a logical explanation as well. It didn't come out of nowhere.
I'm happy it's not going to be a space manga. The last page shows that the known hunterxhunter world is a small part of the whole hxh world. Just like in the Claymore manga.
Aliens screwed up Dragon Ball. However, these ants remind me a lot of Zergs from Starcraft. It could somehow work.
I mean, they could belong to a different dimension, like Shuma Gorath. And also, there's been a while since I spoke of this, but ever since Chloro teleported Nobunaga without moving an inch I get a feeling there's something beyond Nen. Like something that is to Nen what Nen is to regular training. Something only Chloro, Gin and guys from another dimension have ever touched. It feels like Saint Seiya, but I've mentioned so many different lores in the same post already, lol!
As for negative critisim on MH, I honestly don't comment much outside of the Otaku Shoten. (And I think I should have kept it that way.) But It seems to be disturbing trend on Anime boards where people chime in each week to talk about how much they hate something. I suppose people are in their full rights to do that, but I'm not sure why. If week after week the material isn't meeting one's standards wouldn't there be a point where you'd distance yourself from it and maybe revisit it after a period of time? Or...am I missing something? I certainly wouldn't waste valuable time to post about how something sucked for the xth week. Then again I dunno. Sorry if I came off sounding like a bastard. I'm really curious to know why people do that.
What's wrong with a world where not everything is explained and expected? At least in the case of the chimera ants arc, the whole idea behind is "rush to solve unexpected world threating problem", only that the problem was caused by an out-of-the-scale version of an known dangerous life form. There's plenty of examples similar to this in our own world (mainly with illnesses, but still). There was no intention of telling you from where exactly the problem came from the start of the arc. It's only being explained now, and expanding the horizons of the world of HxH to us in the process, so it's a good thing to me. =]
And while the change in mood, from-adventure-to-mass-murder was really abrupt, it really does makes more sense with the idea of an unexpected problem coming to bite you that i pointed.
Last edited by heron bpv; February 29, 2012 at 11:33 AM.
Ok, so this other world is not space itself but what is it? Is it an alternate dimension or is it simply specific sections of the world which have yet to be explored by man? If the latter is the case we could be talking about underground cities and who knows what else...
@Zellogan: It was already hinted in the first chapter, that there is unexplored Land with this revelation, we might have another plot occuring there. Basically, it's not out of nowhere like in the case with the ants (with this I agree with you, we still need some explanation about their origin). Try to give it a chance, it's not like Togashi will disregard his other plots just for the sake of the new one.
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Last edited by Host Samurai; February 29, 2012 at 11:57 AM.
On the last page it says, "The world that we know is merely a single part of a world of enourmous proportions"
on the page before that he talks about the "outside" (外側) and also qualifies the ants as non native species. There's no use of the word alien or outer space... I guess it's more like the gourmet world in Toriko. Hopefully the next chapter will clear some of this up.
Last edited by Goshi; February 29, 2012 at 11:50 AM.
I'm afraid this 'beyond the outer limit' world is going to be up to our imagination.
Given the recent draft drawings especially, main characters' arc being wrapped up, I think this 'outer limit' talk is basically Togashi's "The world is unlimited! Go explore kids!" ending to HxH.