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    Why I think the Anime will/should end with the next arc [SPOILERS]

    SPOILER ALERT: there are minor spoilers for those who have not read the manga. You have been warned.

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    I know there was some speculation last year, and some false rumors 'round the turn of the year, that Togashi would be back with more Hunter x Hunter (manga) soon, and, thusly, that the anime would continue off of that. With the Chimera Ant arc winding down, and to be followed only by the shorter New Chairman Election Arc, its obvious now that this isn't true. Even if Togashi started releasing new chapters before the end of the Chimera Ant arc, he wouldn't be able to put enough room between the manga and the anime for the anime to complete even a single arc without having to either go on hiatus or switch to fillers.

    I myself had even theorized in a few posts that the story of Hunter x Hunter might continue alone through the Madhouse anime - that perhaps Togashi would collaborate with them, guiding them through story material and overall plot progression, while the Madhouse team would execute Togashi's vision into newer, technically canon (even if they are not going off of the manga) arcs.

    While I would still like that, I don't know how likely it is. I have to admit to myself that, most likely, the anime is going to end with the New Chairman Election arc. While before I didn't see how this was possible (thus why I created the Madhouse-extension theory), after revisiting that arc in the manga, I have to say that not only is it the only good place to end the anime, it is actually a perfect place to end.

    The reasons I think the New Chairman Election arc is a great place to end the anime:

    1) Gon meets Ging - this is obvious. Even as much as this plot thread has been invisible for much of the series, this has still been, behind the scenes, the driving plot thread of the series. It is the reason Gon became a hunter in the first place. Heck, it is the reasoning for the series name (Gon is hunting his father, who is a hunter, thus he is a "Hunter hunter"). Having the series end with Gon finally meeting his father, and beginning a new adventure with him, is a great way to end the series. Also, if Togashi does eventually return to and finish the series, and Madhouse later decides to anime the remaining chapters as "Hunter x Hunter 2", the arc in which Gon and Ging go off on an adventure together (and, as Gon's primary mission has been completed, he will need a new defining goal to achieve) is the perfect place to start that new series.

    2) Gon and Killua split up - less obvious, but honestly, a bigger deal than number one. Gon and Killua's relationship is the defining feature of the series, and I'd say this is more true in the anime than in the manga. As other main and supporting characters have come and gone, these two have stayed constant. Having them split up at the end of the series is a great way to put a cap on the series, giving it that great bittersweet ending that is so perfect for ending a grand adventure. As well, the final arc sees the Killua's character arc rounding out, with him having to rush to save Gon, and with him becoming to Alluka what Gon was to him.

    3) Hisoka (and Illumi) are the antagonists - even less obvious, but very important. For a number of reason. The first reason is simple - Hisoka is popular, people miss Hisoka. Having him reappear for the final arc, even just to show that he is still around and that he is still up to his sinister deeds, will please the fans. But the second reason is a little more abstract: it brings things full circle, and in a nostalgic kind of way, brings things home. The "(attempted) return to normalcy" is a common and great way to end a series. After all the crazy drama has taken place, we see the world (try) to return to the (relatively) more peaceful (or at least, comfortable) ways of before. And in a strange way, having Hisoka and Illumi appear as the antagonists does this. Because this was how we were introduced to them - as this kind of dastardly duo in the Hunter Exam arc - but as usual, Togashi throws curveballs, and we haven't seen them back in their initial role sense. Hisoka appeared again as Antagonist (with a hint of mentor figure) in the Heaven's Arena arc, and that was his last appearance as a "pure" antagonist figure. He was a supporting figure (with his own third party interests) in the York New City arc, before becoming a supporting protagonist (functionally, even if he was still an antagonistically-minded character) in the Greed Island arc. And Illumi disappeared completely, only functioning as a mental antagonist for Killua. So having them appear once again, in body, together, as antagonists, in the last arc, kind of calls back to their role in the first arc.

    4) Character cameos - pretty much every (still alive) character whom Gon and Killua had had any kind of meaningful interaction with makes a cameo appearance. Leorio comes back, with arguably his biggest role in the entire series. We even catch a glimpse as to where Kurapika is, even if he doesn't appear in the plot.




    While the manga itself doesn't position itself as an ending, it has all the elements to make a great one - its just a matter of presentation (for indeed, execution is everything, and 90% of storytelling is storyTELLING). The manga doesn't present these elements to us in the form of a finale, but the anime could change that. Without altering the content of the final arc, minor changes in the execution and presentation of these different elements could make for a fantastic finale to a fantastic series.

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    Re: Why I think the Anime will end should the next arc [SPOILERS]

    I... still have hope but it's true it would be the best place to end the series( chapter 339). It will be hard for Kurapika fans though.

    If the series really end there I hope it will mean that Togashi will return immediately.
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    . Heck, it is the reasoning for the series name (Gon is hunting his father, who is a hunter, thus he is a "Hunter hunter").
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    Re: Why I think the Anime will end should the next arc [SPOILERS]

    Hunter x Hunter would never continue as just an anime. There is absolutely no chance of that happening considering the manga's high sales figures. The only reason most anime adaptations exist is to advertise the manga. Madhouse's work on Hunter x Hunter is no exception.

    It's pretty obvious that the HxH anime will at least be put on an extensive hiatus once its done with the Chairman Election. The ending has a conclusive feel to it, while leaving enough plot threads open to keep people interested in seeing the series continue in the future. I honestly can't see the issue being handled any differently.

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    Re: Why I think the Anime will end should the next arc [SPOILERS]

    I would prefer it ending with gon half dead in bed.
    whehehehe

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    I would prefer it ending with gon half dead in bed.
    whehehehe
    That could actually make for quite a cliffhanger...hm.

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    Re: Why I think the Anime will end should the next arc [SPOILERS]

    I reread some of the last chapters again, awesome . The anime can end if he return, I just want him to come back. 2 full years of hiatus in a few weeks...
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    A few weeks? Lol the anime has MUCH farther to go than that! We haven't even gotten to the Meruem x Netero part yet!

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    Re: Why I think the Anime will end should the next arc [SPOILERS]

    Quote Originally Posted by EverEndingStory View Post
    SPOILER ALERT: there are minor spoilers for those who have not read the manga. You have been warned.

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    I know there was some speculation last year, and some false rumors 'round the turn of the year, that Togashi would be back with more Hunter x Hunter (manga) soon, and, thusly, that the anime would continue off of that. With the Chimera Ant arc winding down, and to be followed only by the shorter New Chairman Election Arc, its obvious now that this isn't true. Even if Togashi started releasing new chapters before the end of the Chimera Ant arc, he wouldn't be able to put enough room between the manga and the anime for the anime to complete even a single arc without having to either go on hiatus or switch to fillers.

    I myself had even theorized in a few posts that the story of Hunter x Hunter might continue alone through the Madhouse anime - that perhaps Togashi would collaborate with them, guiding them through story material and overall plot progression, while the Madhouse team would execute Togashi's vision into newer, technically canon (even if they are not going off of the manga) arcs.

    While I would still like that, I don't know how likely it is. I have to admit to myself that, most likely, the anime is going to end with the New Chairman Election arc. While before I didn't see how this was possible (thus why I created the Madhouse-extension theory), after revisiting that arc in the manga, I have to say that not only is it the only good place to end the anime, it is actually a perfect place to end.

    The reasons I think the New Chairman Election arc is a great place to end the anime:

    1) Gon meets Ging - this is obvious. Even as much as this plot thread has been invisible for much of the series, this has still been, behind the scenes, the driving plot thread of the series. It is the reason Gon became a hunter in the first place. Heck, it is the reasoning for the series name (Gon is hunting his father, who is a hunter, thus he is a "Hunter hunter"). Having the series end with Gon finally meeting his father, and beginning a new adventure with him, is a great way to end the series. Also, if Togashi does eventually return to and finish the series, and Madhouse later decides to anime the remaining chapters as "Hunter x Hunter 2", the arc in which Gon and Ging go off on an adventure together (and, as Gon's primary mission has been completed, he will need a new defining goal to achieve) is the perfect place to start that new series.

    2) Gon and Killua split up - less obvious, but honestly, a bigger deal than number one. Gon and Killua's relationship is the defining feature of the series, and I'd say this is more true in the anime than in the manga. As other main and supporting characters have come and gone, these two have stayed constant. Having them split up at the end of the series is a great way to put a cap on the series, giving it that great bittersweet ending that is so perfect for ending a grand adventure. As well, the final arc sees the Killua's character arc rounding out, with him having to rush to save Gon, and with him becoming to Alluka what Gon was to him.

    3) Hisoka (and Illumi) are the antagonists - even less obvious, but very important. For a number of reason. The first reason is simple - Hisoka is popular, people miss Hisoka. Having him reappear for the final arc, even just to show that he is still around and that he is still up to his sinister deeds, will please the fans. But the second reason is a little more abstract: it brings things full circle, and in a nostalgic kind of way, brings things home. The "(attempted) return to normalcy" is a common and great way to end a series. After all the crazy drama has taken place, we see the world (try) to return to the (relatively) more peaceful (or at least, comfortable) ways of before. And in a strange way, having Hisoka and Illumi appear as the antagonists does this. Because this was how we were introduced to them - as this kind of dastardly duo in the Hunter Exam arc - but as usual, Togashi throws curveballs, and we haven't seen them back in their initial role sense. Hisoka appeared again as Antagonist (with a hint of mentor figure) in the Heaven's Arena arc, and that was his last appearance as a "pure" antagonist figure. He was a supporting figure (with his own third party interests) in the York New City arc, before becoming a supporting protagonist (functionally, even if he was still an antagonistically-minded character) in the Greed Island arc. And Illumi disappeared completely, only functioning as a mental antagonist for Killua. So having them appear once again, in body, together, as antagonists, in the last arc, kind of calls back to their role in the first arc.

    4) Character cameos - pretty much every (still alive) character whom Gon and Killua had had any kind of meaningful interaction with makes a cameo appearance. Leorio comes back, with arguably his biggest role in the entire series. We even catch a glimpse as to where Kurapika is, even if he doesn't appear in the plot.




    While the manga itself doesn't position itself as an ending, it has all the elements to make a great one - its just a matter of presentation (for indeed, execution is everything, and 90% of storytelling is storyTELLING). The manga doesn't present these elements to us in the form of a finale, but the anime could change that. Without altering the content of the final arc, minor changes in the execution and presentation of these different elements could make for a fantastic finale to a fantastic series.
    i spoiled a few things but thats cool because this was a great post

    i will say this, i will be HIGHLY pissed if at somepoint we do not get to see a kurapika vs chrollo fight to the death

    this fight is NECESSARY for this series to be a success in my opinion

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    Re: Why I think the Anime will end should the next arc [SPOILERS]

    The thread Title still gives me a headache.
    I'm sure you meant: "Why I think the Anime should end with the next arc" instead of "Why I think the Anime will end should the next arc" -> Which for me - as no native english speaker - doesnt make sense.

    BTT: I also think the anime has to stop with chapter 339
    When they still animate chapter 340 though, it would be an epic confusion throughout all HxH Fans and Anime Only Fans. Which i would fin amusing. Just think of all the WTF?! Threads and Videos which will come! xD

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    Re: Why I think the Anime will/should end with the next arc [SPOILERS]

    Great posts great points, however, I would prefer if the anime stops and the manga resumes immediately, almost like a catchup game.
    It would also mean continuous HxH action instead of it being Hiatusxhiatus action.

    With that in mind, insect arc ending would make more sense since we all know that Togashi would do 25 chapters max before resuming the hiatus again.
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    Re: Why I think the Anime will/should end with the next arc [SPOILERS]

    I still think 340 is a great place to end the show (I know I've said it everywhere). But this is just me personally, I like having an open ending where they basically set you up for an adventure you'll probably never see. It's like letting you know your favorite characters are still doing their thing and maybe there will be a sequel. I mean, shit, that's how manga readers basically feel right now But eh, that's just me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BurnSchulz View Post
    The thread Title still gives me a headache.
    I'm sure you meant: "Why I think the Anime should end with the next arc" instead of "Why I think the Anime will end should the next arc" -> Which for me - as no native english speaker - doesnt make sense.

    BTT: I also think the anime has to stop with chapter 339
    When they still animate chapter 340 though, it would be an epic confusion throughout all HxH Fans and Anime Only Fans. Which i would fin amusing. Just think of all the WTF?! Threads and Videos which will come! xD
    Yeah. I originally wrote "Why I think the Anime will end with the next arc", but then I decided to change it to "Why I think the Anime should end with the next arc" - but I f*d that right up XD gives me a headache too, but I don't know how to change it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drmke View Post
    I like having an open ending where they basically set you up for an adventure you'll probably never see. It's like letting you know your favorite characters are still doing their thing and maybe there will be a sequel. I mean, shit, that's how manga readers basically feel right now But eh, that's just me.
    THIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by hokageji View Post
    Great posts great points, however, I would prefer if the anime stops and the manga resumes immediately, almost like a catchup game.
    It would also mean continuous HxH action instead of it being Hiatusxhiatus action.
    Oh how I wish this would be the case!
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    Re: Why I think the Anime will/should end with the next arc [SPOILERS]

    As long as the score between Kurapika and the Phantom Troupe has not been settled there will never be a "perfect" place for the anime to end. Same goes for the score between Hisoka and Gon. If Madhouse could somehow wrap those two plot points up, that would be great. In fact, if the anime took any liberty at all with Hunter X Hunter and wrapped up any loose ends or finished any stories on it's own, that would give Togashi motivation to finally start the manga again. But I'm not counting on it. And of course, it would probably mean no anime ever. Man Togashi screwed up.....the anime gets a reboot and shortly after he goes on hiatus. Didn't seem like a big deal at the time, I mean there was 340 chapters of content for the anime to cover! And now.....we're like 90% done with the Chimera Ant arc and he still hasn't come back. At this point it wouldn't even matter if the manga resumed next week, there's no way the anime isn't going to catch up.

    Sigh.....

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