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    Naruto with Sage Mode from the beginning of Part 2

    Let's just say that Jiraiya took Naruto's training seriously instead of only helping him develop a stronger Rasengan and generally improving his physique and KB usage, by teaching him Sage Mode and Frog Kumite, which he completely learn by the time that they return to Konoha.
    So we have the same Naruto, but with Sage Mode.
    What would've happened then?

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    Re: Naruto with Sage Mode from the beginning of Part 2

    On their first encounter, Deidara would have been driven into a corner by Naruto, thus as a last resort he would have used either C4 or C0, which in turn means he would have killed the main protagonist, thus ending the manga.

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    Re: Naruto with Sage Mode from the beginning of Part 2

    Naruto didn't control his chakra well enough to learn it,and it was kakashi's plan to use clones in order to speed the trainings,so naruto would have failed in doing that training. anyway,I still doubt that naruto has shown everything he learned during that training,I'm still waiting for some techniques which can seal amaterasu. Also,naruto was trying to control the kyubi's chakra (and biju-mode >>>sage-mode). finally,without the rasenshuriken it wouldn't have been a greatest mode,imo.
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    Re: Naruto with Sage Mode from the beginning of Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by LnDRash View Post
    On their first encounter, Deidara would have been driven into a corner by Naruto, thus as a last resort he would have used either C4 or C0, which in turn means he would have killed the main protagonist, thus ending the manga.
    Problem being, Deidara had strict orders to not kill Jinchuurikis, like anyone in Akatsuki.
    That and he was missing an arm, and was still punched in the face by Naruto, an enhanced punch by Sage Mode would've made Deidara a goner. I still think he would've run, like he did in canon

    Quote Originally Posted by mattiaildivino View Post
    Naruto didn't control his chakra well enough to learn it,and it was kakashi's plan to use clones in order to speed the trainings,so naruto would have failed in doing that training. anyway,I still doubt that naruto has shown everything he learned during that training,I'm still waiting for some techniques which can seal amaterasu. Also,naruto was trying to dispose of the kyubi's chakra (and biju-mode >>>sage-mode). finally,without the rasenshuriken it wouldn't have been a greatest mode,imo.
    You're mixing Rasen Shuriken with Sage Mode xD I only talked about Sage Mode and Frog Kumite, not FRS which was created even before Naruto learned Sage Mode

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    Re: Naruto with Sage Mode from the beginning of Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha_Blood View Post
    Problem being, Deidara had strict orders to not kill Jinchuurikis, like anyone in Akatsuki.
    That and he was missing an arm, and was still punched in the face by Naruto, an enhanced punch by Sage Mode would've made Deidara a goner. I still think he would've run, like he did in canon
    If Deidara was about to die I doubt he would give a damn about his orders. Art comes first, so he wouldn't pass his one and only chance to pull of his masterpiece

    And I don't doubt he'd try to run away... but in Sennin Mode Naruto can sense him and he also has Fukasaku & Shima to take down that bird. Don't forget Kakashi is there too, so counting all of that together he's simply screwed, thats why I said he would have been driven into a corner.

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    Re: Naruto with Sage Mode from the beginning of Part 2

    Gotta remember: Sage Mode only amplifies one's current abilities. If Naruto had SM at the beginning of part 2 I see him not being half the threat he was when he had it later, after all of his FRS training and what not. And while he might not die by Deidara's hands, Orochimaru would've likely killed him that day, since he wouldn't have bothered going 3 tails, which lead to his 4 tails transformation (and there's no way in hell SM Naruto can tank a Kusanagi the way 4tk Naruto did).. Instead he'd try to fight him ninja-to-ninja with his own skill and jutsu, which would result in him getting fed a Kusanagi.

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    Re: Naruto with Sage Mode from the beginning of Part 2

    actually, the sage mode training is mainly focused on hand to hand combat. so naruto wouldn't have been any less off when it came to fighting orochimaru close combat. Infact naruto wouldn't have even had to lay an actual hand on him and still deal damage. It also seemed to help naruto devise combat statagies after he recieved his training. The only downside of him fighting orochimaru with sage mode earlier in the series is the loss of FRS.

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    Re: Naruto with Sage Mode from the beginning of Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by tret16 View Post
    actually, the sage mode training is mainly focused on hand to hand combat. so naruto wouldn't have been any less off when it came to fighting orochimaru close combat. Infact naruto wouldn't have even had to lay an actual hand on him and still deal damage. It also seemed to help naruto devise combat statagies after he recieved his training. The only downside of him fighting orochimaru with sage mode earlier in the series is the loss of FRS.
    This is kind of false. Naruto gained quite a bit of battle experience between fighting Orochimaru and becoming a Sage.

    Those combat strategies you speak of began surfacing while fighting Kakazu, not because of Sage Training. Not to mention he began learning how to use Kage Bushin's more effectively while training to create FRS.

    Obito has also slipped through the boulders before he awakened his MS. No surprise here at all, just Kishi doing a headstand while taking a shit, which is pretty much the development cycle in a nutshell of his recent work - IChallengeYou!

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    Re: Naruto with Sage Mode from the beginning of Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by LnDRash View Post
    On their first encounter, Deidara would have been driven into a corner by Naruto, thus as a last resort he would have used either C4 or C0, which in turn means he would have killed the main protagonist, thus ending the manga.
    3 problems.

    1- Killing Naruto = killing himself as Tobi would rip his head off (Tobi or somebody from Aka).
    2- Naruto going Kyuubi for whatever reasons has insane chanses of surviving both of those things.
    3-Kakashi was there to Kamui his ass

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    More to the topic... Sasuke would be back right now in Konoha with or with no broken limbs.

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    Re: Naruto with Sage Mode from the beginning of Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Delbi View Post
    This is kind of false. Naruto gained quite a bit of battle experience between fighting Orochimaru and becoming a Sage.

    Those combat strategies you speak of began surfacing while fighting Kakazu, not because of Sage Training. Not to mention he began learning how to use Kage Bushin's more effectively while training to create FRS.
    sorry, what i should have said, is fighting techniques... Like the use of using his one hand to blind or get the enemy to focus on it while you hit him with the other hand... So instead of saying battle stratagies, i should have said fighting style i guess... at least i think that's the best word for it... So for example when Naruto would dodge and then punch back, there wasn't really any flow in his movement or any type of technique in his combinations. So Sage mode taught him more of those kinds of things which actually make him much more effective in hand to hand... Also when Naruto faught pain, he didn't use any clone to get a gauge of his oponents fighting power like he did with Kakuzu. Which i found to be a sign of great improvement all together... When you look at Naruto fighting style from right before he left to do his sage training to the fighting style he had right after, it's actually a complete 180. At least in my eyes it is.

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    Re: Naruto with Sage Mode from the beginning of Part 2

    He could only use 3 kagebunshins when fighting pain, otherwise they would have messed up the ones channeling sage chakra. So he had to use them sparly. Remeber when he was fighting kyuubi that limit didn't apply anymore and that's why he used taiyuu kagebunshin in sage mode.

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    Re: Naruto with Sage Mode from the beginning of Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by LnDRash View Post
    On their first encounter, Deidara would have been driven into a corner by Naruto, thus as a last resort he would have used either C4 or C0, which in turn means he would have killed the main protagonist, thus ending the manga.
    to be honest,deidara wasn't able to use C4 yet. according to what he said when fighting gaara,the C3 was his maximum chakra at that time,he hadn't mastered C4 yet. and he wouldn't have been able to use C0 either,since he was without arms to open his 4th mouth.

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