Suigetsu vs. Sasori

[Lemonadez]

He doesn't breath when he's in water form, proven by the fact that he was inside of the Demon Fish giant form, and he wasn't breathing thanks to being underwater and having no possible way to breath.

Even if he did breath in poison it doesn't stop him from doing exactly what I said he'll do: purge it from his body by forcing it all into one area and then abandoning that one area. It's no different from cutting off your hand before the poison in your hand can reach your heart (Naruto did it when he stabbed himself in the hand to remove the poison used by Gozu and Meizu).

You remove poison that you recieved from a cut by removing the contaminated blood. Suigetsu however can just remove the entire contaminated body part.

Also, I'd love to see you explain how poisoned designed to kill the human body manages to kill Suigetsu who doesn't have a human body half the time we see him.

lol you underestimate Sasori poison it isn't an ordinary poison, It spread through entire body just like how it explain. SHow me proof that Gozu poison are on same par with Sasori, where it require a bad ass medic to remove the poison. So i dont know what u talking about Suigetsu removing poison from the water because the water is contaminated. Remember when Sakura using her medic abilities to remove poison from kankuru body, she doesn't use the same water. She keep changing water because if she used the same water from before, it would not be remove bcuz its been contaminated.

Poison do spread on water just incase u dont know...

Sasori poison mix it with Iron Sand. Pretty much win for Sasori..

LoL Suigetsu cant kill Sasori.. Last time I saw on manga, Suigetsu always get tired from HEAT..

Also Suigetsu does have a body, if he doesn't have a body. He wont be standing and able to hold something that is solid. Or Suigetsu body wont be solid at all.

[ninjabot]

lol you underestimate Sasori poison it isn't an ordinary poison, It spread through entire body just like how it explain.

Doesn't matter. Not until you prove Sasori's poison can kill water, lmao.

SHow me proof that Gozu poison are on same par with Sasori, where it require a bad ass medic to remove the poison. So i dont know what u talking about Suigetsu removing poison from the water because the water is contaminated. Remember when Sakura using her medic abilities to remove poison from kankuru body, she doesn't use the same water. She keep changing water because if she used the same water from before, it would not be remove bcuz its been contaminated.

I don't have to. YOU'RE the one who has to prove that Sasori's poison can kill water. Go ahead. Show us all that you can kill a lake with poison. Show us that Sasori's poison can end a puddle of water's life.

We'll wait.

Poison do spread on water just incase u dont know...

I know it does. Unfortunately for Sasori, Suigetsu has complete control over his water form, meaning every part of him that has poison in him can be pushed into a small area so that he can cut that area off and leave the poison out of his body. Why do you keep ignoring this?

Sasori poison mix it with Iron Sand. Pretty much win for Sasori..

Until Suigetsu removes the sand from his body by simply squeezing it into his arm and then amputating it. Or until he simply solidifies so that it doesn't seep into his body.

LoL Suigetsu cant kill Sasori.. Last time I saw on manga, Suigetsu always get tired from HEAT..

No he didn't. He got tired from dehydration, not heat. And since there's a lake nearby, too bad for Sasori. All it takes to kill Sasori is to hit the big glowing canister in his chest. To kill Suigetsu however, Sasori has to HOPE that the nearby lake dries up magically.

Also Suigetsu does have a body, if he doesn't have a body. He wont be standing and able to hold something that is solid. Or Suigetsu body wont be solid at all.

I never said he didn't have a body. I said he doesn't have a human body most of the time. Because he doesn't. He's usually water most of the time we see him. You just can't stand to see anyone affiliated with Sasuke winning a fight.

[Uchiha_Blood]

Well, it's stated that Sasori's human puppets retain the chakra they had in life. That's why he could use Satetsu without having the Kazekage's magnetic powers, because he was using it through the puppet, which had the original Kazekage's special chakra. It's not that Sasori's chakra reserve is massive, it's that his own puppets have their own chakra reserves. Sasori pretty much only uses his chakra for making chakra strings.

As for the iron sand saturating Suigetsu's body, yes, it can do that. But, Suigetsu can simply purge the sand from his body. Have you ever noticed him to have sand and dirt inside of his aquatic form after flowing along the ground? The fact that he was able to harden and control the water in his stomach to keep Bee captive long enough for Sasuke to electrocute him with Chidori is proof that he has control over the shape and movement of objects inside of him, otherwise he couldn't hold on to Bee. We've also seen he can control his water after it's split from his own mass when he started drowning Juugo without having to touch the water bubble around his head. All of this leads me to believe anything forced inside of his body that's not raiton won't have any effect for long, since he'll just force it out.

I tought that too, but I reread the manga, and saw that Sasori does the handseals for the jutsu and that he talks as if he himself uses the chakra for the jutsu.

Dunno about the purging ability, if Suigetsu is encased in a giant ball of iron sand would he be able to seep through? The way I see it, iron sand wouldn't let through water, as in it is way more dense, probably, than normal sand.
And we saw that both speed and range are impressive.

[Lemonadez]

@ninjabot

http://www.mangareader.net/93-273-15...apter-268.html <- that poison alone. once that iron sand mix with poison will stop suigetsu from moving.

http://www.mangareader.net/93-274-15...apter-269.html <- Put suigetsu into that box container..

http://www.mangareader.net/93-275-14...apter-270.html <- Suigetsu get hit by water... WHat his gona about this one with multiple of iron sand that contain poison, Suigetsu body will eventually get hit and wont be able to move at all.

http://www.mangareader.net/93-275-17...apter-270.html <- look the effect of the poison its Instantly paralyze the entire body. Suigetsu wont be able to control his body and separate himself from poison effect, cuz it instant effect. Suigetsu isn't a medic nin.

[ninjabot]

http://www.mangareader.net/93-273-15...apter-268.html <- that poison alone. once that iron sand mix with poison will stop suigetsu from moving.

No it won't, because Suigetsu is made of water. I said for you to prove that the poison can paralyze or kill water. You failed.

http://www.mangareader.net/93-274-15...apter-269.html <- Put suigetsu into that box container..

He can't make a box container until he gets OUT of Hiruko, THEN summons the Sandaime Kazekage puppet. By that time Suigetsu has already cut a hole in the wall and jumped in some water to turn giant.

http://www.mangareader.net/93-275-14...apter-270.html <- Suigetsu get hit by water... WHat his gona about this one with multiple of iron sand that contain poison, Suigetsu body will eventually get hit and wont be able to move at all.

No, his body will git hit, get splattered into a puddle to avoid the rest of the sand, then REFORM into the shape of a human, away from the sand. This is all only if he hasn't gotten in the lake yet. If he's reached the lake then he simply ignores the sand.

http://www.mangareader.net/93-275-17...apter-270.html <- look the effect of the poison its Instantly paralyze the entire body. Suigetsu wont be able to control his body and separate himself from poison effect, cuz it instant effect. Suigetsu isn't a medic nin.

Wrong. It instantly paralyzes a HUMAN body by numbing nerves and killing organs. Sasori's poison can't paralyze water or kill organs that aren't THERE. You're wasting your time.

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I tought that too, but I reread the manga, and saw that Sasori does the handseals for the jutsu and that he talks as if he himself uses the chakra for the jutsu.

If I remember correctly, Kabuto and Orochimaru made handseals every once in a while while their Edo Tensei were fighting, but it's obvious he isn't using his own chakra to perform their jutsu. But I guess either is possible. I know he atleast used his own chakra to summon each puppet, which means he has a considerable amount.

Dunno about the purging ability, if Suigetsu is encased in a giant ball of iron sand would he be able to seep through? The way I see it, iron sand wouldn't let through water, as in it is way more dense, probably, than normal sand.
And we saw that both speed and range are impressive.

Suigetsu doesn't have to stay in one mass when the sand hits him. Once it starts covering him he can simply split part of him in half to escape the closing sand formation like when Juugo punched him.

[SpawnSasori]

It's not like " ...the poison can paralyze or kill water... "
Suigetsu is not water, but living being made of water. He is growing, and getting older.
We don't know how would he reacted on poison.

IMHO Suigetsu can't kill Sasori, he is not that skilled.
As for Sasori he probably could seal Suigetsu ( probably because he knows how to seal his puppets he may know how to seal sth else, and in Your opinion ninjabot Suigetsu is not living person, so sealing him should be as easy as sealing water )
Or he could put Suigetsu inside of kettle and boil him with his flames

At the end none of them can win. After long fight they would probably determine it's tie.

[Rikudou King]

Suigetsu has been shown capable of transforming into actual water and controlling said water from a distances. He's had his arms torn off and was stabbed straight through with a sword, and came out of both situations just find. There's little reason to think that Suigetsu's body has the same limits as a normal human body.

[ninjabot]

Not to mention there's literally no time limit between the moment he's hit with an attack, and the moment he becomes water. He turns into the water the instant he's hit. Meaning there's no such thing as "poisoning him before he becomes water."

Poison will never have an effect on Suigetsu.