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The only thing that i came across watching One Piece that i didnt understand is Garps position.It was mention'd a couple of times that he was a Vice-Admiral.But hes stronger than the admirals,hows that...I mean ,hes is a legendary guy who new the seas when Pirate King was alive,he even fought him several times.So can someone explain this to me?
garp just wont accept being promoted to higher positions....that's all....
indeed,Garp was a vice-admiral but he was at least at admiral level. by the way,that's not the place to open this kinda threads,you should have asked that in the Hangout,or in one piece's page (47). but this is the section of the spoiler discussions,where we discuss about the latest chapters.
Garp has the rank "chuujou" which translates to vice admiral. He is apparently not bound to a home base unlike Comil (G-2 commander) and Momonga (as his ID code implies, he's head of G-1's staff), but has his own Marine warship. Becoming an admiral would limit him in his freedom to move, therefore he denied being promoted.
He is not a Marine at all anymore, he retired in the aftermath of the war.
I was under the impression that both garp and sengoku retained their titles though. I think they simply retired from their duties and got teaching positions so technically they would still be marines.
Garp was just a vice admiral, like a lot of the D.'s he just wanted the freedom to do as he pleased.
Garp wasn't just a VA, he was HQ VA. As such he holds more authority than sub-division (base) VA, such as G5-VA Smoker.
I did some further digging after ur post and found out that the marine officer in chapter 598 isn't Mamonga. Apparently it was further confirmed in the anime. I don't watch it anymore, so I don't know it for a fact. However it makes more sense for Mamonga being a HQ VA than a G1 VA.
Edit: Just checked: Episode 517 at 16:03 Isn't Mamonga for sure.
Last edited by BlackHair; March 19, 2012 at 02:34 PM.
That's it what we know of Vice Admirals.
Momonga's authorization code for passing the Justice Gate starts with G-1. Oda placed a gap between "G-1" and "00660":
Being in the Buster Call fleet doesn't have anything to do with where the VA is stationed. The Buster Call fleet is assembled by several warships that are the closest to the target. Marineford is just the closest and largest marine base to Enies Lobby. And we don't know why these VAs have been at that time at Marine Headquarters, probably because Blackbeard delivered Ace to them some days ago. There was no explanation given aside from Garp saying that he wasn't in Marineford to respond to the Enies Lobby request for Buster Call.
How often do people have to say this? DON'T EVER rely on the anime. They lack of credits, rename characters (proven by Blue Deep databook "Kaizerhige" vs. Stainless) and read the manga instead. Please compare Momonga shown on the page above with that mustache of his and compare it to this commanding officer. It's pretty striking that this IS Momonga:
Even the wrinkles are the same ...
It was stated in the green datebook that HQ marine officers hold more authority than subdivision ones.
The code is rather interesting. I already forget about that completely.
As to anime and manga: It is not out of the ordinary for Oda making mistakes in drawings or creating character with similar design. Though Im not watching the anime, I use it to clarify things which were ill-defined in the manga. Mamonga being the perfect case. Though that code clears everything up.
PS: Ur sarcasm annoys the hell out of me. I tried my best being polite, but Im forced to draw a line here. In further discussions with you I will always remember ur sarcasm.
Last edited by hoeru; March 19, 2012 at 11:54 PM.
arg'.. I thought I put the link in my post. Here u go. The question is asked for general differences between HQ and subdivision. The answer has Morgan as example. Giving it some thoughts, it makes sense for the elite being in HQ.
No Garp is just a vice admiral, and No its never said that hes stronger than other admirals, the current 3 admirals (pre time skip) were said to be the strongest in Marine.
"Cornering Roger" is nothing special, considering:
1) Smoker (currently vice admiral) has also cornered Luffy (the upcoming pirate king) many times.
2) others like Shiki have also cornered Roger.
3) It's not like Roger is all mighty god-like to began with, he probably gradually developed his skills like Luffy does
4) In comparison, many today, could consider to be Luffy's rival, like Smoker, Kidd, Law, Sentomaru etc, and those will eventually be known as the pirate king's rival...
But Garp is admiral level strength at his prime, proabably comparable to Sengoku, considering how shit most other vice admirals are (generally below shichibukai standard)
Last edited by warsetone; March 21, 2012 at 10:14 PM.
The rank Admirals were said to be the strongest force of the HQ, not each individually. So there is no canon saying Garp is definitely weaker. Im not necessarily saying he is stronger, however its way to early to make judgements.
Furthermore Roger himself stated in the fights with Garp, to have nearly killed each other many times. So apart from WB, Garp is also one of those who fought Roger to standstill. Two years ago WB was limited with past battle wounds and health problems, yet he was worthy to be feared. Garp who is not limited with health problems, shouldn't disappoint either.