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Thread: What's in the scroll that Suigetsu found?

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    Re: What's in the scroll that Suigetsu found?

    i don't know guys...it seems like the stage is set for him to get it(rinnegan).he is following in madara's footsteps...
    got his brother's eyes
    awaken/developed ems
    now he hates konoha(hence senju belief)
    on a course to fight presumably the strongest ninja in the manga.
    so i say rinnegan and sasuke are a given...remember tobi has a set of rinnegans(even though he's using only one eye).
    can someone say another transplant...and the scroll shows how to transplant eyes.jugo,karin and suigetsu will be back in the picture once again.i have this feeling the war will be over before sasuke even sees naruto again,plenty of time for him to get another power up.
    just a thought..."shrugs"
    But the stink that filled the privy gave ample evidence that the oft-repeated jape about his father was just another lie. Lord Tywin Lannister did not, in the end, shit gold

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    Re: What's in the scroll that Suigetsu found?

    Suigetsu said the scroll could help Sasuke gain control of the war, which may or may not be a good thing. Is Sasuke on Madara's side, Tobi's side, Alliance's side, or neither?
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    Re: What's in the scroll that Suigetsu found?

    at first i was thinking it could be a summoning for itachi's mirror and sword
    or some other type of legendary weapon

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    Re: What's in the scroll that Suigetsu found?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlayerKisame View Post
    Suigetsu said the scroll could help Sasuke gain control of the war, which may or may not be a good thing. Is Sasuke on Madara's side, Tobi's side, Alliance's side, or neither?
    It's pretty moot now that the war is basically over. And Sasuke's on his own side.

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    Re: What's in the scroll that Suigetsu found?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    It's pretty moot now that the war is basically over. And Sasuke's on his own side.
    moot or not it will certainly show up again, the only question is will suigetsu find sasuke before sasuke finds naruto/tobi

    oh kishi the suspense is killing me

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    Re: What's in the scroll that Suigetsu found?

    The question is, how much information about Orochimaru / Kabuto Sasuke had and how much he told Suigetsu about. It might be possible that Sasuke knew what Kabuto was able to do (ET, Sage mode etc) and that he would try to follow Orochimaru's way... If Sasuke knew a lot and told Suigetsu about, he might even know that Kabuto has acces to Madara's DNA and therefore being able to cast him as ET.

    Another possiblity might be a way to beat the Rinnegan, the same as Orochimaru tried with the sharingan. AFAIR Suigetsu said something like "this might be helpfull", not that it WILL be helpfull. And that the possibility exists he may run into someone having a rinnegan is not to far streched...
    You might as well forget about seeing the light of day. Ever again.

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    Re: What's in the scroll that Suigetsu found?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    Even if he was, implanting Senju Dna isn't an automatic thing. Madara didn't gain his Rinnegan til years after he had taken Hashirama's Dna.
    That part isn't confirmed. All we know is that he didn't die immediately. He could have survived for a few days, awakened Rinnegan in his dying moments, done something to keep his plan alive (create Tobi/Zetsu with Rinnegan/Wood powers?) and died. We don't have a valid time frame on anything.

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    everyone keeps saying tobi/zetsu(these guys are shinobi...maybe whirlpool/uzumaki) were created by madara...wouldn't he have to have control over the rinnegan(not shortly before his death...was nagato just a spur of the moment...yeah right)?

    if he had the power of creation he could have created a better version of himself(tobi's an idiot compared to madara's genious)...if that were the case(but it's not).
    it all comes down to RT and what he read off the naka tablet...that he would have taught hashirama how to rise from the dead.
    now,how would he do this if hashi-dono did not have rinnegan...hummmm

    hate to say it...but this may mean that both sons are capable of acquirring the rinnegan and vice versa...the sons are both capable of gaining the body of RS...
    Last edited by gnut; July 03, 2012 at 08:50 PM.
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    Re: What's in the scroll that Suigetsu found?

    Quote Originally Posted by gnut View Post
    everyone keeps saying tobi/zetsu(these guys are shinobi...maybe whirlpool/uzumaki) were created by madara...wouldn't he have to have control over the rinnegan(not shortly before his death...was nagato just a spur of the moment...yeah right)?

    if he had the power of creation he could have created a better version of himself(tobi's an idiot compared to madara's genious)...if that were the case(but it's not).
    it all comes down to RT and what he read off the naka tablet...that he would have taught hashirama how to rise from the dead.
    now,how would he do this if hashi-dono did not have rinnegan...hummmm

    hate to say it...but this may mean that both sons are capable of acquirring the rinnegan and vice versa...the sons are both capable of gaining the body of RS...
    Just because he had Rinnegan and was able to create life with it, that doesn't mean he was in complete control. If they were created with his dying breath, yes, I could see there being flaws to beings he attempted to create with a new, untested power on a whim as he was dying.

    For instance; you could be the very best boxer in the world. But I doubt you'll be winning any fights when you're on your death bed.

    More evidence that Madara died young; shortly before he used Mokuton for the first time, he said there was a jutsu he wanted to try out.

    This implies he never had the chance to do so in life-he died too quickly.



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    Anyways, for the original question, it could very well be a new Sharingan form for Sasuke. Orochimaru wanted the Sharingan bad, but wasn't about to risk the injection of Senju cells (which killed all but one of the 60 infants he did it to) on himself, thus eliminating the chance of Rinnegan; so, he tried to develop something new, originally meant for Orochimaru's use? Afterwards, Kabuto wanted Sasuke for the same purpose, to try the potential new eyes.

    Whatever it is, it will likely be the power-up that puts Sasuke on Naruto's level. Right now, the two aren't even close to even.
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    Re: What's in the scroll that Suigetsu found?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zau View Post
    That part isn't confirmed. All we know is that he didn't die immediately. He could have survived for a few days, awakened Rinnegan in his dying moments, done something to keep his plan alive (create Tobi/Zetsu with Rinnegan/Wood powers?) and died. We don't have a valid time frame on anything.
    Madara had knowledge of young Nagato, who's at most was around 30 years old. So Madara was alive at least two decades ago. That leaves at least a forty year difference between when Madara fought Hashirama and when he would have died, and by his own admission, gaining the Rinnegan happen a short while before that.

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    Re: What's in the scroll that Suigetsu found?

    it still makes one wonder....how did madara die???


    he definitely had knowledge of nagato based on what he said when he first appeared

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    Re: What's in the scroll that Suigetsu found?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    Madara had knowledge of young Nagato, who's at most was around 30 years old. So Madara was alive at least two decades ago. That leaves at least a forty year difference between when Madara fought Hashirama and when he would have died, and by his own admission, gaining the Rinnegan happen a short while before that.
    Madara and Nagato both had the Rinnegan, which granted them powers over life and death. Talking to the dead (or a dead man talking to the living) shouldn't be all that difficult for them.

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    Re: What's in the scroll that Suigetsu found?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zau View Post
    Madara and Nagato both had the Rinnegan, which granted them powers over life and death. Talking to the dead (or a dead man talking to the living) shouldn't be all that difficult for them.
    There's nothing to suggest that the Rinnegan enables communication with the dead, nor would it make sense for Madara to refer to Nagato as a child and not know the current going ons if that was possible.

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    Re: What's in the scroll that Suigetsu found?

    A way to achive the next level of dojutsu, Elemental Sharingan, like Lightning or Fire. That's my guess.

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    Re: What's in the scroll that Suigetsu found?

    Quote Originally Posted by chorns View Post
    A way to achive the next level of dojutsu, Elemental Sharingan, like Lightning or Fire. That's my guess.
    that's just called the rinnegan, which gives u access to all elements

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