Nagato vs Taka

[Uchiha_Blood]

Seeing as, in the last chapters, Taka seems to have regained a bit of their lost respect, I'm interested in the outcome of this fight. I didn't use the Six Paths since, imho, it would've been a stomp, so Nagato has the body he had when he was sealed by Itachi, minus the immortality of course.

Taka is in full-team with Suigetsu, Juugo, Karin and Hebi Sasuke ( MS Sasuke, ironically, imho has less of a chance since he uses high draining jutsu that not only would be useless against Nagato, but would also aid him, and hasn't neither the CS nor Orochimaru's abilities ).

They fight in the barren wasteland where Gaara fought Niidaime

Info
-Assume that Hebi Sasuke is faster than current Sasuke, has more chakra, better regenerative powers and has all snake-related jutsus, since he absorbed Orochimaru's body, gaining his powers.
-Draining Juugo of his chakra would prove to be dangerous for Nagato in light of recent events, so he would be careful
-Suigetsu has Zabuza's sword, and can use any jutsu showed by Zabuza
-Both have somewhat general info on the other
-Nagato can't resurrect himself despite having Hell Realm's and the Seventh Path power

Scenario 2:
-Instead of Hebi Sasuke, put current EMS Sasuke
-They fight at VOTE, so Suigetsu has a lake to use
-Juugo has the same strenght of Sage Naruto

[xXan]

CT wins both scenarios.
City buster CT could also do the same.

If Nagato can trap RM NARUTO and fight off Bee at the same time Sasuke is losing his souls or getting killed...

Juugo has the same strenght of Sage Naruto

LOL!

[Uchiha_Blood]

LOL!

lol well, Scenario 2 is Taka in haxed mode, so I had to give Juugo improper weapons.
Still, as CT, we saw that, for Nagato in non-ET mode, it is a dispendious and somewhat draining jutsu, so I believe he would use it as a last reserve kind of thing, and if he can perform it.
ET Nagato was an immortal zombie, this Nagato is mortal and has all the limits a "normal" body has

[xXan]

@Uchiha_Blood

In a real fight scenario ... Yeah but here it does not matter. We don't worry that he is going to live only 95 years down from 100 if he usses that.
But Sasuke could survive in his Susano and Suigetsu would turn to a puddle so i gues its probably better to hold it off and w8 for a oppening before shooting it as he would have 1 less superpower for some time (asuming the CD is valid to his real self to).

Still i don't see them winning. The only thing that would work vs Nagato is going in h2h ... and lol ... Nagato was able to hold Naruto down and Bee at the same bloody time... WTF are these dudes going to do?

[Naruto2011]

There are to many conditions XP
But I would say Nagato because he is simply too powerful

[Impossibility]

Nagato's display against Naruto and Bee is enough for me to say that he wins both scenarios against Taka. His arsenal is far too much for them.

[Uchiha_Blood]

@Uchiha_Blood

In a real fight scenario ... Yeah but here it does not matter. We don't worry that he is going to live only 95 years down from 100 if he usses that.
But Sasuke could survive in his Susano and Suigetsu would turn to a puddle so i gues its probably better to hold it off and w8 for a oppening before shooting it as he would have 1 less superpower for some time (asuming the CD is valid to his real self to).

Still i don't see them winning. The only thing that would work vs Nagato is going in h2h ... and lol ... Nagato was able to hold Naruto down and Bee at the same bloody time... WTF are these dudes going to do?

Well Nagato do not spams CT, he used against Kyuubi because it was rampaging, and he used against Naruto, Bee and Itachi because Kabuto needed those two alive and captured.
And Naruto and Bee showed crappy teamwork, they were raging at Nagato without a strategy, while Taka instead showed good teamwork.
I'm not implying that Nagato will lose to teamwork, but that they have chances, since Nagato can be taken by surprise, and with Karin healing combined with Suigetsu's tanking ability they can exploit Nagato's weaknessess

Nagato's display against Naruto and Bee is enough for me to say that he wins both scenarios against Taka. His arsenal is far too much for them.

As I said to xXan above, teamwork can be the key, since, while they are outclassed, they can land solid blows, and with Sasuke they have 1HKO attacks like any Chidori based jutsu.
True, Nagato could end the fight if he uses CT the very istant the fight begins, yet, if dealt realistically, this fight could be enjoyable imho

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There are to many conditions XP
But I would say Nagato because he is simply too powerful

Well, many conditions are simply reminders, like Hebi Sasuke's abilities and Nagato's non-immortality.
Scenario 2 can simply be simplified as "Haxed Taka" lol

[xXan]

@Uchiha_Blood

CT will be used if Nagato needs it. Its absurd to belive Nagato is only using it if he needs to CAPTURE something. If he needs it he shoots it. If i can think of that he can think of that.
Nagato and Bee had good enough teamwork and they even hat Itachi there for that. Problem was that Nagato noticed Bee with his shared vision. Bee whent from BEHIND him to strike as Naruto was making Nagato focus on him(not intentionally) to get his soul.

Team Taka and good tactics... LOL Sasuke almost killed his team some good 2-3 times in that fight with Bee by charging like a nut alone and with no sharingan on (he again charged vs Raikage and his 2 man squad ALONE like an idiot with no plan), turning his back on Bee and so on. I really don't see any better tactics there then Bee displayed assisting Naruto vs the Jins in the forest when Tobi showed up.

Now you actualy belive that Suigetsu+Karin+Jugo>Bee and Naruto? Itachi NEEDED Naruto and Bee to stop Nagato. You actualy think that replacing Naruto, Itachi and Bee with team Taka is going to work? Nop sry.

Also no jutsu would work on Nagato, Sasuke using Chidori on him would be useless. Geting in close Nagato would stop any jutsu and blast them all with ST or grab them with robot realm. Hell Nagato can summon invizible animals and HUGE summons (in HUGE numbers) to assist him and his shared vision. Then he can remove souls and so on...

Hell just have Nagato summon the GM statue and then go drink some sake... The bloody statue solos this. Or just "bound" with it and use the bloody dragon to remove there souls.

I am sorry but Nagato stomps this in 95% of posible actions where the rest % is left to some insane luck like Nagato tripping and hitting his head on a rock or thinking how good Konan looked in her panties or how good it felt to "penetrate" Hinata with his "stick" :P and then Sasuke uses Amaterasu and kills him before he uses ST or his shield.

[SpawnSasori]

Kabuta ( Nagato ) was not planning to capture them.
http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/551/4


In both scenario Nagato will win.

[Uchiha_Blood]

@Uchiha_Blood

CT will be used if Nagato needs it. Its absurd to belive Nagato is only using it if he needs to CAPTURE something. If he needs it he shoots it. If i can think of that he can think of that.
Nagato and Bee had good enough teamwork and they even hat Itachi there for that. Problem was that Nagato noticed Bee with his shared vision. Bee whent from BEHIND him to strike as Naruto was making Nagato focus on him(not intentionally) to get his soul.

Team Taka and good tactics... LOL Sasuke almost killed his team some good 2-3 times in that fight with Bee by charging like a nut alone and with no sharingan on (he again charged vs Raikage and his 2 man squad ALONE like an idiot with no plan), turning his back on Bee and so on. I really don't see any better tactics there then Bee displayed assisting Naruto vs the Jins in the forest when Tobi showed up.

Now you actualy belive that Suigetsu+Karin+Jugo>Bee and Naruto? Itachi NEEDED Naruto and Bee to stop Nagato. You actualy think that replacing Naruto, Itachi and Bee with team Taka is going to work? Nop sry.

Also no jutsu would work on Nagato, Sasuke using Chidori on him would be useless. Geting in close Nagato would stop any jutsu and blast them all with ST or grab them with robot realm. Hell Nagato can summon invizible animals and HUGE summons (in HUGE numbers) to assist him and his shared vision. Then he can remove souls and so on...

Hell just have Nagato summon the GM statue and then go drink some sake... The bloody statue solos this. Or just "bound" with it and use the bloody dragon to remove there souls.

I am sorry but Nagato stomps this in 95% of posible actions where the rest % is left to some insane luck like Nagato tripping and hitting his head on a rock or thinking how good Konan looked in her panties or how good it felt to "penetrate" Hinata with his "stick" :P and then Sasuke uses Amaterasu and kills him before he uses ST or his shield.

I'm playing devil's advocate here, since scenario 1 has a Sasuke which is miles stronger than the actual in all but MS jutsu since he hasn't them, while in Scenario 2 they are ultra-haxed.

And yes, Bee disposed of them because not only Sasuke was weaker than his Hebi self, but also he was more skilled, Raiton was harmful for Suigetsu and rendered all of Sasuke's jutsus ineffective.
They showed good tactics and timing, the only reason why they didn't do damage was because Juugo was/is weak as hell and Bee was way too resilient. Dunno, I believe imho that they would be dangerous if Nagato do not resort to his mass-destruction jutsu ( ultra Shinra Tensei, Chibaku Tensei and Gedo Mazo ).

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Kabuta ( Nagato ) was not planning to capture them.
http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/551/4


In both scenario Nagato will win.

Yes he did

[xXan]

@Uchiha_Blood

Thinking back and i can see no real tactics used. What you think Suigetsu getting Bee wet and then screaming for Sasuke to get the both of them is a great tactic? There was no real team play... Vs Bee and Raikage Sasuke charged in by himself a number of times, he was not timing anything with his team or pulling any tacticts that he set up with his team before that or any type of real strategy. Vs Bee Sasuke was unconscious a great part of that fight.

Again they have no answer to CT, GM statue and posibly Super ST. Hell they could win but the chanses of that happening are very, very small. Something really stupid would need to happen.
Team taka would end up fighting:
1-Nagato.
2-GM Statue that was leveling the entire battlefield and when Nagato died it had 7 bijus in it so this is GM with 7 bijus of power.
3- some multiple Gamabunta level summons and other small ones.

What the hell can they do? In this fight plot no jutsu is not going to help there buts.

Nagato himself can counter just about anything. What if Nagato criticaly injures Sasuke and then Sasuke tries to spit himself out but finds out that he can't as Nagato engaged his super shield that stops jutsus? Bam dead Sasuke. Also draining is NOT limited to jutsus. Grab Sasuke and close to instantly drain ALL HIS CHAKRA. Nagato was able to do that to Bee lvl 2 form faster then Samehada and better. So even if he grabs Sasuke and its over, his regenerating powers are more or less irrelevant as Nagato has more then enough tools to get around those.

[jaymizzo]

Nothing they do has any effect on Nagato.

We have yet to see a Rinnengan user be trapped under an ocular genjutsu. So thats not an insta win. Any Jutsu used against him is absorbed. He could easily nuke the battlefield and then Chibiku tensei it and follow up with Gedo to make sure no one lives.

Its actually a really bad match up, the only threat is Sasuke and maybe Suigetsu with his unkillable state.

[Munboy]

I reckon Nagato would probably win using CST or CT, pretty easily. At the moment, EMS Sasuke isn't too much different from MS Sasuke at the moment, so he suffers the same issues as MS Sasuke right now.

[The3greateyes]

Taka would win for a couple reasons. First when Taka was fighting B they were aiming to capture not kill. Also if they are injuired Karin's insane healing abilities would keep them in battle longer. Although a super ST is a daunting prospect I think Suigentu would be able to block most of it's affects. Also if Suigentu can use zabu's power he can used hidden mist to restrict Pains vision.

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While Suigentu did that Sasuke can do Kiren on the Pain's

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[xXan]

@The3greateyes

Nagato can trap them all inside a small moon and crush them. Nagato can rip there souls out. I don't think Karin can heal those things.

Then we have the GM Statue with 7 biju's in it.

PS. Nagato can probably stop the mist with his anti jutsus shield.