Minato Namikaze vs. Hashirama Senju

[RezzieThaRapper]

-The battle takes place in the village of Konoha

-Minato has a tag upon every building, Each Monument Face, 3 scattered in the forest of death, 3 scattered in the Naara clan forest, and one in every other seat of the chuunin exam arena, and in the chuunin exam battle grounds

-Hashirama is allowed to use any technique Yamato, or Madara have demonstrated with Mokuton(up to 25 clones... each using 4% of his chakra)... He also can use Yamato's Suiton and Doton techs...

-Minato can summon any Toad from Mt. Myokuzaban(spelling?), but doesn't have sage mode

-The 9 Tailed-Fox can be summoned by Hashirama

-Projectiles like the Biju Bomb can be blocked and redirected with the S/T barrier Kunai... (e.g. If Hashirama summons Kurama, and Minato redirects it at Hashirama or group of Mokuton clones)

-The last person standing wins, even if the other person dies shortly after...

-This fight could very well last for days...

-Common Sense applies in this battle for both of them... that's all I will say...
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So discuss!!!

[ninjabot]

The speed at which Hashirama's Mokuton is created may not be Hiraishin fast, but his near instant regeneration makes up for the occasional kunai strike or Rasengan that hits him. And if he survives that first strike that Minato hits him with, he gradually understands the strength and weakness of Hiraishin. "Stay away from the kunai" becomes the most likely strategy. So what's he do? Create a forest.

Minato would likely try to thrash Hashirama with kunai strategies (throwing them in confusing directions until he can get one close to hit Hashirama with a tag of somesort), but ofcourse Hashirama will create his Moku Bunshin and, the next clone that Minato finds that he kills with a Rasengan would plant a seed on him, allowing Hashirama to sense Minato's approach (before saying Minato wil be moving too fast to have a seed placed on him, remember that these trees will be swinging roots and branches at him each time he stops from shunshining somewhere, slowing his reaction time down because he can't literally react to attacks that are everywhere at once).

Anyway, with the occasional branch swatting him or thorn scratching him Minato decides to obliterate the whole forest with a giant jutsu from Bunta is either strangled to death thanks to the giant roots, or devoured by Kurama. As this is happening Hashirama's clones, seeping through the branches around Minato, either leap out for an attack on them... or wait for the original to cast his darkness genjutsu before hopping out and killing him before he can have Ma and Pa sense them out. Minato had a sensing jutsu he could use, but I don't know if it can sense someone while they're inside of a tree.

I didn't take into consideration Minato teleporting about a mile away and trying to wait Hashirama out because he has to kill him to win, and Hashirama created all the trees of Konoha. Even if he didn't, he can still travel through any tree allowing him to find Minato no matter where he is. It'll take a while, but he DEFINATELY has the stamina to do so. Not to mention Minato would have to come back eventually to continue fighting, and unlike Hashirama he doesn't regenerate.

[GomuGomu_Getsuga]

I give it to Minato. Minato would rasengan/decapitate/seal Hashirama long before he gets touched by any of the his jutsu. If the first summons the kyuubi then how exactly is it supposed to fight for/with him? Wouldn't it be a bother? The last thing Hashirama wants to do is get close to Minato, which is unavoidable when facing fastest ninja to exist. Minato can completely dominate the fight because Hashirama uses seals. Even if his seals were as fast as Itachi's it would still be too slow. Raikage's instant attack was nothing to him. This is someone that can juke amateratsu without trying. Also I'm sure Sarutobi couldn't fight Minato along with someone else(Kakashi I guess). Remember Oro vs Hiruzen?

Minato doesn't regenerate because he doesn't need to. I doubt any single ninja has the speed or skill to injure him. It has been stated that only Naruto can possibly surpass Minato.

[RezzieThaRapper]

I was under the impression that the Kyuubi was under Hashirama's control... Like a summoned being... in any case assume it isn't a bother and that it is fully following his command...

Also... I am under the impression that Hashirama has a lot of stamina... but if he creates a forest capable of covering every single area that Minato can hirashin to... and then makes 25 clones... and then regenerates any wounds Minato inflicts from Rasengan, Kunai, Paperbomb, ect... well... I'm not one to dispute super awesome characters... but he shouldn't be able to do this all in one setting... Eventually Hashirama will get tired... This battle is like a T-Rex trying to catch a fly... it has to step down at the right time otherwise it will be impossible...

[ChelaTHEBEST]

All hashirama has to do is create the plant world and spam pollen everywhere. One does not simply walk away from pollen.

[RezzieThaRapper]

But with common sense on... and him being in a ninja village... and him being able to teleport... you don't think he'll find something to wear over his face like a gas mask... Teleport to the medic ninja ward grab the supplies, teleport away, make a safe spot deep in the forest of death... teleport back, give him the middle finger...

Hashirama has common sense too though... but he's not psychic (not yet anyway, Mads hasn't finished talking yet...)... He'll note every time he teleports and will keep the high ground...

But Minato will consistantly be tagging his trees... until he finds an awesome opening

[xXan]

The first usses that genjutsu and owns Minato.

Also:

The last person standing wins, even if the other person dies shortly after...

This is a unfair buff to Minato, so if he uses his the DG seal and he seals Hashirama and then of course that he dies to he wins? If so remove his ability to perform the DG seal or remove this condition. If you whant a fair fight make it fair.

[NinjaStar]

@RezzieThaRapper

How exactly far do they start from each other? Because that might make the difference IMO

But more than likely Minato uses DG on Senju, because that is his only form of attack strong enough to put him down, only to find out that it was really a clone...

But in all honestly I don't really seeing a rasengan being strong enough to put him down. I remember somebody making the argument that the Susanoo sword that completely pierced Tsuande should have been just as painful/effective/deadly as a rasengan if not more. If Tsuande(that was relatively tired by this point) was not only able to tank it but was also able to make a counter attack and talk sh** immediately after getting stabbed im sure Hashirama should have no problem at all...In fact it should be a walk in the park recovering from a rasengan for him. Senju can also seemingly be everywhere and everywhere. He is just too versatile IMO. While Minato is versatile with what he has(FTG + Rasengan), its just not enough here. Minato loses to overwhelming strength and major haxxx abilities....oh and hype too(though this may be biased considering its mostly coming from his lover).

[Uchiha_Blood]

The speed at which Hashirama's Mokuton is created may not be Hiraishin fast, but his near instant regeneration makes up for the occasional kunai strike or Rasengan that hits him. And if he survives that first strike that Minato hits him with, he gradually understands the strength and weakness of Hiraishin. "Stay away from the kunai" becomes the most likely strategy. So what's he do? Create a forest.

Shame that if Yondaime hits him with a Rasengan, he would insta-tag him with an Hiraishin tag, thus ending the fight

As for the fight, I don't see Hashirama losing, simply because his Mokuton is perfect for counter any number of opponents and any attack, and has a range so wide that Yondaime can't get close to him even with his ultra-speed.
A kunai thrown would be swatted away easily, and the moment Hashirama figures out how the jutsu works, he can deal with it.

Yet Yondaime doesn't get stomped, simply because his abilities pratically nullyfies any power whatsoever from the opponent:
unless you are faster than him ( a feat that only current Naruto can claim ), have outstanding defensive abilities ( third Raikage, Susano'o user ) or incredible overall abilities ( Hashirama's Mokuton ) Yondaime can find a way to end the battle.
And even while overwhelmed, like in this case, if he has his tags out he can evade any jutsu Hashirama uses like the Pollen World, but can't ultimately win since he would need to fight Hashirama up-close to kill him, a suicide since he can't get close enough unless he tags every tree created by Hashirama.

Yondaime's best bet is to try to win in the first minutes of the fight, when the Hiraishin's "secrets" aren't discovered by Hashirama and so he can do go for the kill by tagging him.

Still I give this to Hashirama 8 times out of 10

[LnDRash]

Shame that if Yondaime hits him with a Rasengan, he would insta-tag him with an Hiraishin tag, thus ending the fight

Hashirama should be able to remove the tag by growing Mokuton out of his body, just like how Yamato pushed out Sasuke's sword from his body.

Anyway, @overall topic:

I think the biggest issue would be the pollen. If Minato doesn't have detailed intel on Hashirama's abilities then he's probably just going to dodge between the growing tree's not paying attention to some flowers. By the time he notices the pollen it can already be too late and he starts getting dizzy, so he'll most likely teleport away. Problem is the pollen would already be inside his hair and clothing, thus even if he teleports he's going to take those pollen with him, which means he'll faint somwhere else. Hashirama then only has to find him and finish him off.

[ninjabot]

Hashirama should be able to remove the tag by growing Mokuton out of his body, just like how Yamato pushed out Sasuke's sword from his body.

Or he chills underground inside of a giant root, letting his clones hunt down Minato since they can sense where he is thanks to those seeds. Minato can't teleport inside of solid matter so he can't get inside the root, even if he can get underground.

[Uchiha_Blood]

Hashirama should be able to remove the tag by growing Mokuton out of his body, just like how Yamato pushed out Sasuke's sword from his body.

Actually, this makes a lot of sense.
But would Hashirama know it without having prior knowledge of the jutsu? For all he would know, Yondaime would simply be too fast

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Or he chills underground inside of a giant root, letting his clones hunt down Minato since they can sense where he is thanks to those seeds. Minato can't teleport inside of solid matter so he can't get inside the root, even if he can get underground.

The seeds sensed Naruto & co because they ate it and only when they were, they do not grant extensive sensing abilities imho

[LnDRash]

Actually, this makes a lot of sense.
But would Hashirama know it without having prior knowledge of the jutsu? For all he would know, Yondaime would simply be too fast

Not before Minato uses it at least once. But Hashirama should be able to take that hit thanks to his regeneration, and then he can addapt to the situation.

[Uchiha_Blood]

Not before Minato uses it at least once. But Hashirama should be able to take that hit thanks to his regeneration, and then he can addapt to the situation.

Or he could create a Mokuton Bushin from his body like Yamato did, thus losing the seal in favor of the bushin.
Yamato was pretty versatile with the "lesser" Mokuton

[RezzieThaRapper]

The first usses that genjutsu and owns Minato.

Also:



This is a unfair buff to Minato, so if he uses his the DG seal and he seals Hashirama and then of course that he dies to he wins? If so remove his ability to perform the DG seal or remove this condition. If you whant a fair fight make it fair.

It's not unfair if he incidentally uses it on a Mokuton clone... thus killing himself and getting Mads level trolled...

Also, do you guys really think Minato would eat a seed during this battle... I don't think he would...

Not that it matters, but Minato is a sensor type as well... index finger to the ground, knows every enemy hiding in the trees (no pun intended )...

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The speed at which Hashirama's Mokuton is created may not be Hiraishin fast, but his near instant regeneration makes up for the occasional kunai strike or Rasengan that hits him. And if he survives that first strike that Minato hits him with, he gradually understands the strength and weakness of Hiraishin. "Stay away from the kunai" becomes the most likely strategy. So what's he do? Create a forest.

Minato would likely try to thrash Hashirama with kunai strategies (throwing them in confusing directions until he can get one close to hit Hashirama with a tag of somesort), but ofcourse Hashirama will create his Moku Bunshin and, the next clone that Minato finds that he kills with a Rasengan would plant a seed on him, allowing Hashirama to sense Minato's approach (before saying Minato wil be moving too fast to have a seed placed on him, remember that these trees will be swinging roots and branches at him each time he stops from shunshining somewhere, slowing his reaction time down because he can't literally react to attacks that are everywhere at once).

Anyway, with the occasional branch swatting him or thorn scratching him Minato decides to obliterate the whole forest with a giant jutsu from Bunta is either strangled to death thanks to the giant roots, or devoured by Kurama. As this is happening Hashirama's clones, seeping through the branches around Minato, either leap out for an attack on them... or wait for the original to cast his darkness genjutsu before hopping out and killing him before he can have Ma and Pa sense them out. Minato had a sensing jutsu he could use, but I don't know if it can sense someone while they're inside of a tree.

I didn't take into consideration Minato teleporting about a mile away and trying to wait Hashirama out because he has to kill him to win, and Hashirama created all the trees of Konoha. Even if he didn't, he can still travel through any tree allowing him to find Minato no matter where he is. It'll take a while, but he DEFINATELY has the stamina to do so. Not to mention Minato would have to come back eventually to continue fighting, and unlike Hashirama he doesn't regenerate.

Guess I'm the only FPS Camper here... lol