Shingeki no Kyojin Chapter 32 Discussion

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[Kaiten]

Best part of the chapter:

When Eren asks Mikasa how she can fight Annie and she responds "The world is a cruel place". Such a great summation of the series as whole, as well as Annie's betrayal. This chapter might not have been as flashy as the last, but I love the psychology of having to deal with a comrade's betrayal.

The ring was my other favorite part. A very clever way to trigger her transformation, even Armin didn't see it coming.

[capricorn]

Best part of the chapter:

When Eren asks Mikasa how she can fight Annie and she responds "The world is a cruel place". Such a great summation of the series as whole, as well as Annie's betrayal. This chapter might not have been as flashy as the last, but I love the psychology of having to deal with a comrade's betrayal.

The ring was my other favorite part. A very clever way to trigger her transformation, even Armin didn't see it coming.

Another reason I loved Mikasa's quote at that moment was that I believe this was the same thing Eren said to her the first time they met as children where smugglers killed Mikasa's family and were trying to capture her as goods (for whatever reason). What makes it so cool too is that those were the same revalationary words that made Mikasa into the bonified, hardcore badass she is today and in this chapter the very thing that had Eren transform into his titan mode. The thing with the ring waas really smart and really complemented the smart military style thinking that the characters should have given their circumstances.

Another favourite part of this chapter was at the scouts' meeting house where Eren and Rivalie were sitting in that quiet dead space left by their fallen comrades. I found that bit really sad and what made it even sadder was how Rivallie was talking incessantly in order to fill in the deafening silence. Awesome chapter obviously- not surprised.

[haegar]

rofl, yeah, Rivaille and his musings on the shit not coming out, lmao, so in character XD

anyways, I'll have to let this chapter sink a bit more before forming a final opinion: generally, the ususal good stuff, but plot could have moved a bit further imho - basically we got an extension to last month's cliffhanger by means of some more background info and that is it.

I do wonder why soo much space was given to Eren struggling with changing into a Titan to fight Annie. Given the quality of the character development so far I am optimistic it will have some more meaning later, but should it turn out this was just to heighten the drama and he fights all badass without holding back next chap I will be a bit dissapointed. Actually I am thinking it was made so abundantly clear how much he struggles to lay the ground for him lateron trying to "save" Annie somehow... I'm leaning towards him having decided she is not entirely bad, though he might not have realised this just yet (consciously)...

edit: Oh and Mikasa deffinetely doesn't have that problem, lol

[Hiro Hayase]

I agree when Mikasa said "The world is a cruel place" that definitely felt like a turning point in the series, at least for Eren's character. I knew it! The ring did have significance~ Hahaha~ For some reason, I found Mikasa a tad bit creepy when she was behind Eren persuading him to fight Annie as a titan and making that face lol. Was it due to jealousy...? Eren might decide to use a ring similar to the one Annie has or take hers as a parting gift in the unfortunate event that she dies.

They confirmed that there are servants of titan inside the walls, clearly seeking to destroy it and possibly doom humanity. Eren's punch at the end looked like a shoryukenyoken from street fighter, hehe.

[Kaiten]

anyways, I'll have to let this chapter sink a bit more before forming a final opinion: generally, the ususal good stuff, but plot could have moved a bit further imho - basically we got an extension to last month's cliffhanger by means of some more background info and that is it.

I agree, while I liked this chapter it really was only an extended flashback. It served it's purpose but at the same time was more a break in tension rather than step forward.

I do wonder why soo much space was given to Eren struggling with changing into a Titan to fight Annie. Given the quality of the character development so far I am optimistic it will have some more meaning later, but should it turn out this was just to heighten the drama and he fights all badass without holding back next chap I will be a bit dissapointed. Actually I am thinking it was made so abundantly clear how much he struggles to lay the ground for him lateron trying to "save" Annie somehow... I'm leaning towards him having decided she is not entirely bad, though he might not have realised this just yet ...

edit: Oh and Mikasa deffinetely doesn't have that problem, lol

I think he wanted to show Eren struggling with his motivation. Until now being gung-ho was easy: the enemy has been mindless titans and strangers. This is the first time he had to fight and kill someone he thought of as a friend. I think this chapter was about Eren coming to grips with the fact that war is not always about heroics.

I agree when Mikasa said "The world is a cruel place" that definitely felt like a turning point in the series, at least for Eren's character. I knew it! The ring did have significance~ Hahaha~ For some reason, I found Mikasa a tad bit creepy when she was behind Eren persuading him to fight Annie as a titan and making that face lol. Was it due to jealousy...? Eren might decide to use a ring similar to the one Annie has or take hers as a parting gift in the unfortunate event that she dies.

I think it was the lighting: Mikasa was always shown in such harsh light, a lot of grays and blacks.

Another favourite part of this chapter was at the scouts' meeting house where Eren and Rivalie were sitting in that quiet dead space left by their fallen comrades. I found that bit really sad and what made it even sadder was how Rivallie was talking incessantly in order to fill in the deafening silence. Awesome chapter obviously- not surprised.

Well said! Until your quote that did not register with me. Looking at the chapter again, that big empty space was very sad.

[haegar]

I think he wanted to show Eren struggling with his motivation. Until now being gung-ho was easy: the enemy has been mindless titans and strangers. This is the first time he had to fight and kill someone he thought of as a friend. I think this chapter was about Eren coming to grips with the fact that war is not always about heroics.

True, maybe I was overthinking this by focusing too much on Annie and what her future role might be... not everything Eren does relates to her character and the plotline dealing with it ...

edit: but she definetely is the most interesting character to me right now so I can't help myself

[capricorn]

I agree when Mikasa said "The world is a cruel place" that definitely felt like a turning point in the series, at least for Eren's character. I knew it! The ring did have significance~ Hahaha~ For some reason, I found Mikasa a tad bit creepy when she was behind Eren persuading him to fight Annie as a titan and making that face lol. Was it due to jealousy...? Eren might decide to use a ring similar to the one Annie has or take hers as a parting gift in the unfortunate event that she dies.
They confirmed that there are servants of titan inside the walls, clearly seeking to destroy it and possibly doom humanity. Eren's punch at the end looked like a shoryukenyoken from street fighter, hehe.

My thoughts exactly, I was so lost in the tension of this chapter that I literally screamed SHORYUKEN at the top of my lungs when Eren went titan.

I found Mikasa creepy at the very beginning of the chapter with that color page with her in a pink swimsuit. She was like the total opposite to the girl beside her and is it me or does Mikasa look even more capable to kick my ass in the pink swimsuit LOL

[Kaiten]

True, maybe I was overthinking this by focusing too much on Annie and what her future role might be... not everything Eren does relates to her character and the plotline dealing with it ...

edit: but she definetely is the most interesting character to me right now so I can't help myself

I don't think it is wrong to focus on Annie. Eren was reacting to Annie, she is the focus of the plot right now. I suspect the story will focus directly on her next month. Not only because of the fight but there has to be consequences for transforming in broad daylight, in the middle of inner districts. She has now confirmed the fact that Irvin was right, there are enemies inside the wall and Eren is not one of them. Eren now becomes an essential weapon, the only "good guy" who can transform and fight the "bad guys" as an equal.

I found Mikasa creepy at the very beginning of the chapter with that color page with her in a pink swimsuit. She was like the total opposite to the girl beside her and is it me or does Mikasa look even more capable to kick my ass in the pink swimsuit LOL

Not a fan of this months cover. No.

[haegar]

agreed, this is all there is to say about the cover style

edit: though I can see how some people dig the abs XD

[ashher]

My apathy towards the character of mikasa is slowly turning into quite the full fledged dislike. this girl is not psychologically sound. she's a freaking obsession about eren and how i hope that eren is gonna revolt against her at some stage.

i wonder if that line about eren having some special feelings for annie would come true...i for one won't mind at all.

[Kaiten]

Annie has slaughtered a whole lot of people, killing even more this chapter. Even if he does have feelings for her I can't imagine any way for him to express those feelings. He seems to have found the determination to fight at the end of the chapter, no matter what his feelings for her. Ultimately I am sure that he hesitated because she was a friend and comrade, not because he has feelings for her. He had to come to grips with the fact that life's a bitch and friends one day can be enemies the next.

[ashher]

^ true, but both of them belong to the same kind, right? I'm not saying eren has some romantic feelings for annie right now, but a development towards that direction wouldn't be something i wouldn't welcome, if its done correctly.

[Kaiten]

Same kind yes but different sides of the fight. I can't really imagine a star crossed love affair developing later on. Besides, right now she is cornered and might not have any future in the story. To soon to tell though.