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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
I understand what's Oda doing. it's basically (ill call it "Liquidation rights"). well ill explain, if some1 helped in the past and all of sudden he needs help u will at least try, it depends on how good u are. Luffy is good person as we know. Oda's plan started with Jimbi but it wasn't clear to us. if luffy helps Law "we both need something back" to get the "something" then this porves this theory.
1- CC= Creser Clown= Master
2- Boss = Brown Beard so hes not dead but as Basil Hawkins said "I see the shadow of death upon you"
couple of things that u guys mention
1-CC is an escapee from Imple Down. (this must be related to the iced men that Chopper and Nami saw and those iced men are prisoners)
2-Law is under not under cc command
3- law's crow are hostage
but my explanation to this matter is 1 of 2 thing
The First is WIN-WIN situation
1 - cc and Law reached to understanding of helping each other which is:-
A- Law's DF helps Doctor to preform surgeries without hurting the body of a person and without killing Him. (cc benefit)
B- Law needs something that cc can do which is "?" till now but i can say it's related to Law's craw. My EXPLANATION for this matter is that Law became a War Lord becoz of his crew are being held hostage by some1 and that some1 is not marine or WG. What made me say "held hostage" and not "are dead" becoz he said "something back". so in the end he become a war lord to make it ez to reach his goal without getting chased by the Marine or WG. they see him as brutal(100 heart) but he sees it as " what needs to be done should be done".
2-Law's bounty is 440M which means, he has done some "bad thing" to the WG or the Marine. which makes him a target for bounty hunters . That "some1" i mention might be a BH.
The second is a WIN-WIN (but not willingly doing it)situation but most of u mentioned it
that CC is holding Law's Crew hostage ....etc etc
this is the summery of my thoughts hope u enjoy it
Do you girls and guys think this chapter was sort of one "turning point" in this arc? Almost all mysteries from the beginning basically have been resolved so far. The only parts that remain so far are
... and the final battle CC vs. Luffy/Law/Smoker with the escape from Smoker, of course.
- The reason for the Kids being on PH.
- Where's Momonosuke and what happened to him?
- Looking for the Samurai's torso.
- Switching back Nami, Sanji, Franky and Chopper. (There might be a problem with Sanji trying to flee with Nami's body. ^^)
- What happened to Law's crew?
- Switching back Tashigi and Smoya.
The next target should be Wano Kuni anyways - so I predict the Strawhats stick with the Samurai even though Luffy will realize that he was the one who cut down the one he heard on Den Den. (Luffy was playing with the kids instead of listening. :P)
I think they're gonna split up again: Two of Luffy's group will look for the Samurai's torso (Brook and Robin?), and the other ones will go find out what's going on with those kids.
read up to page 12, couldnt do any more =_= Lol.
The chapter was awesome.
but I noticed several comments on how Robin doesnt speak up? You guys....http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...60/c663/2.html she tried she really did =_= She is possibly the most quiet of all the strawhats, but she will talk when she knows it's relevant. Maybe she stopped midway because she thought it better to see how their meeting with Law went first? She does seem like the type to stop, listen, and observe before acting. And Luffy wasnt exactly listening so >_> Lol
Edit: Oh what I mean is, Robin began speaking but then Luffy jumped in, and so she stopped midway (maybe she's thinking 'Luffy is communicating with T. Law... this might be interesting I'll stop talking')
I hope I'm making sense because I'm reading my comment over and something seems off O_o
Last edited by LMU; April 16, 2012 at 06:45 PM.
lol samurai guy is funny i cant believe smoker can still remain so calm wicked cliffhanger but sanji/nami and nami/franky are hilarious i wonder if even law likes to have a bit of fun every now and then lol all in all great chapter
7. What is CC trying to do and why?
8. What is Law trying to do and why?
But, those mysteries (the true climax of the plot) remain unsolved until now. About them we only have hypothesis (for example, 5 is an hypothesis to explain 8).
I personally find very intriguing that Law have switched smoky and tashigi personalities. The idea that it was done in order to weaken or incapacitate them simply doesnt work. It is just a matter of basic math. Concerning wich team is the most powerfull, this is a fact:
tashigi (cutted or not, assuming that she ultimately could rejoin his parts) + smoker knocket out < tashigi's body (cutted or not) with smoker personality + smoky's body with tashigi personality but very awake and alert
Last edited by ukimix; April 17, 2012 at 09:36 AM. Reason: still learing to write - grammar corrections
predictionsLaw joined the shichibukai because he wanted to do something with that title,but he was somehow forced to work for CC because his crew got kidnapped. he acknowledges rufy's strength and that's why he wanted to ask him to help to rescue his crew. or he may have joined the WG because CC kidnapped his crew at the beginning.
PS: I made a mistake in my previous post, since Master and Boss mean pretty much the same to me xD
I feel like this arc has much more to offer . As ukimix said we still don't know the reason behind Law and CC "alliance" (if we can call it that way) so there are still many things left unresolved that may change the flow of the story .
What interests me the most is knowing more about Law and this CC dude . I still think their relationship is based on mutual understanding of each others goals and not Law being threatened by CC . He doesn't look like a guy that is manipulated or forced to do some things , at least that was the impression he gave me
I hope in the end we'll get to see WanoKuni Maybe the SH's will have to get there in order to help the samurai and his child get there safely and then Luffy will form a new alliance , one with samurais this time
And no i don't see this samurai joining the crew . He has a child and i personally don't like his character . I'm curious to see him back to his original form but that's about it
Could it be that Law switched Sanji's teams bodies so that he could blackmail the Strawhats into helping him? Maybe he isn't strong enough to take on Caesar by himself?
I really can't wait to see the SH's back to their original body . It's funny and all with them like that but i wanna see them looking great in this arc . I mean this is such a good arc and for such a good arc their fighting ability has to be at its best IMO
I feel like the centaurs and harpy are being left out. What is their purpose? And who made them? I doubt it was law for the fact that they all have control of their bodies. Samurai guy proves that even while separated the original owner maintains control over all parts, whether connected to something/one else. Also, I doubt law has much faith in luffy: it's been two years! And he didn't know him from Adam to begin with.
I think law shuffling the shs up is him protecting them somehow. Maybe making them even more unpredictable, like say if the enemies have a lot of up to date info and counter measures set up.