Uchiha Bros vs. Tobi

[ninjabot]

Sasuke and Itachi both are capable of everything they've shown, but Itachi is the version that fought Sasuke, meaning his stamina isnt very impressive. Fight takes place where Naruto and Bee were fighting Tobi.

The Edorikki are there aswell, but can't go into Bijuu Mode. They can however, use all other jutsu shown aswell as Version 2. They are not immortal. Also assume that Tobi has no Rinnegan abilities other than shared eyesight (until he starts showing them in the manga). His other abilities are fine (Izanagi, intangibility, warping).

Who wins?

[jaymizzo]

Sasuke and Itachi both are capable of everything they've shown, but Itachi is the version that fought Sasuke, meaning his stamina isnt very impressive. Fight takes place where Naruto and Bee were fighting Tobi.

The Edorikki are there aswell, but can't go into Bijuu Mode. They can however, use all other jutsu shown aswell as Version 2. They are not immortal. Also assume that Tobi has no Rinnegan abilities other than shared eyesight (until he starts showing them in the manga). His other abilities are fine (Izanagi, intangibility, warping).

Who wins?

Tobi, he knows too much of what the bros can do and nothing they actually do will ever harm him. He seems quite skilled in genjutsu too so i doubt Itachi is going to 1shot him.

Add the jins into the mix with theyre insane bloodlines and you have a rather one sided fight. Give Itachi a little bit more stamina and add someone with insane speed into the mix to be able to catch tobi after his 5mins of intangability are over.

[xXan]

Tobi summons the GM statue and warps home for noodles.

[Impossibility]

Tobi seems a little too prepared for everything the Uchiha Brothers have to offer. The Jinchuuriki make Tobi's win overwhelming. A host of unique skills and raw power, the Uchihas cannot be expected to keep up in this battle. Tobi wins comfortably.

[Rikudou King]

If it wasn't for this being the Itachi take fought Sasuke, I would have said that Itachi won with the Totsuka blade. But he doesn't seem like he could outlast all six Edo Jinchuuriki, so unless he simply ignores them and goes straight for Tobi, he and Sasuke would lose.

Actually, if he gave his tools to Sasuke...

[ninjabot]

Tobi summons the GM statue and warps home for noodles.

I don't recommend that. He summons the statue while it's powering each jinchuuriki and Itachi just absorbs Gedo Mazo into his gourd, eliminating every jinchuuriki in one fell swoop (considering the source of their chakra reserves are destroyed, and it takes time for bijuu to revive after their "death").

Eitherway, Sasuke's ability to spam enton without exhaustion aswell as fly makes this fight last longer than one would expect. There's only one jinchuuriki that can follow he and Itachi into the air, and that's Fu. And Sasuke has shown the ability to dodge a jinchuuriki who's powered themselves up with a chakra shroud. Performing the same feat that he did against Bee, but using an Amaterasu instead of a Tsukuyomi at the last second while Fu is trying to knock his hawk out of the sky works fine.

Aslong as they can avoid getting surrounded and split up they can get the fight down to just Tobi and themselves, thanks to Susanoo and teamwork. That's when the real complications would start though, as they'd be tired by the time the jinchuuriki were defeated.

[xXan]

I don't recommend that. He summons the statue while it's powering each jinchuuriki and Itachi just absorbs Gedo Mazo into his gourd, eliminating every jinchuuriki in one fell swoop (considering the source of their chakra reserves are destroyed, and it takes time for bijuu to revive after their "death").

Eitherway, Sasuke's ability to spam enton without exhaustion aswell as fly makes this fight last longer than one would expect. There's only one jinchuuriki that can follow he and Itachi into the air, and that's Fu. And Sasuke has shown the ability to dodge a jinchuuriki who's powered themselves up with a chakra shroud. Performing the same feat that he did against Bee, but using an Amaterasu instead of a Tsukuyomi at the last second while Fu is trying to knock his hawk out of the sky works fine.

Aslong as they can avoid getting surrounded and split up they can get the fight down to just Tobi and themselves, thanks to Susanoo and teamwork. That's when the real complications would start though, as they'd be tired by the time the jinchuuriki were defeated.

His sword can only seal souls. That statue would be immune. You can go back and look at Itachi vs Orochimaur where Itachi was choping heads from that huge thing and no seal was happening, Itachi needed direct contact with Orochimaru popping out of that huge thing. Also even piercing that statue and it would be huge leap of faith for me lol. I am sure that if Itachi stabs the planet it is not going to get sealed inside his thing.

[LnDRash]

I have my doubts about Itachi sealing something as powerful as Gedo Mazo.

The Shiki Fūjin was only able to seal half of the Kyuubi's chakra, Minato even claimed its impossible to seal it all... and if the Shinigami can't do it, then I doubt Itachi can simply seal something of compareable magnitude (Gedo Mazo has the chakra of seven Bijuu stored inside it after all) inside his gourd.

If it was as easy as that, then Itachi would be able to oneshot even the Jūbi, making even the Rikudou Sennin look like a fool.

[ninjabot]

To be fair, whenever Bijuu are sealed within a catalyst, their chakra isn't at full power (or else the hosts would be in Version 2 or Bijuu Mode every moment of the day). While sealed inside of Gedo Mazo I'm 100% sure they don't equal the combined chakra of 7 bijuu.

@xXan: Why are we of the assumption that Gedo Mazo has no soul? Even before it had bijuu sealed inside it it was sentient. Alive even. When it first appeared after Yahiko's death it roared as if it was alive and it didn't have any bijuu inside of it yet. Even if we had to rely on some sort of soul inside of it to seal it away, it has ethereal dragons in it's person. Does that count?

[xXan]

To be fair, whenever Bijuu are sealed within a catalyst, their chakra isn't at full power (or else the hosts would be in Version 2 or Bijuu Mode every moment of the day). While sealed inside of Gedo Mazo I'm 100% sure they don't equal the combined chakra of 7 bijuu.

@xXan: Why are we of the assumption that Gedo Mazo has no soul? Even before it had bijuu sealed inside it it was sentient. Alive even. When it first appeared after Yahiko's death it roared as if it was alive and it didn't have any bijuu inside of it yet. Even if we had to rely on some sort of soul inside of it to seal it away, it has ethereal dragons in it's person. Does that count?

You do have a point about me asuming it does not have a soul but it really looks to me like a rock golem or even the 10 tails body (yes fanfic lol). But yeah i defenetly can't prove the damn thing does not have a soul as of now but personaly i don't belive it does.
Also moving aroung when it is direcly connected with the rinnegan does not mean it is alive, for all we know Nagato made it do that.
Also dragons are chakra based jutsus where Nagato eneds to provide the chakra (chakra rods in his back and this is the only time it was showed necesary to be used), then having souls does not make much sense.

But yeah i do have to take a gues but it does look to be just a rock golem that the rinnegan can control. But also as LnDRash stated. That thing has 7 biju's in them and even asuming what you stated is correct (i don't share it as when Kyuubi busts out it is at 100%, aka kushina event) they would still have 7 bijus in it, a little to much if you ask me.

Then its the fact that i don't even belive the sword can pierce the GM statue.

[Uchiha_Blood]

Its actually a much closer call that I would think of, mainly because not only Itachi and Sasuke works fine as a pair, but also because, while the Jinchuuriki showed to be exceptionally powerful, Itachi and Sasuke have abilities that can utterly destroy them, like the spammable Amaterasu Sasuke showed and the Sword&Shield combo.
Combining this with Susano'o, and the Jinchuuriki, unable as they are to go in full-bijuu mode, wouldn't go through both defences.

The real problem would be Tobi, since not only he knows everything about both Uchiha's abilities, but he is also immune to all of their jutsus, and can eliminate them from the field as wish.
Considering that neither Itachi nor Sasuke have any sensing abilities whatsoever, and that the Sharingan's most glaring weakness is an attack from the rear, I can see the Jinchuuriki keeping the bros busy while Tobi warps Itachi and/or Sasuke in his pocket dimension.

So, despite the Tobi team being nerfed, I still gave them the win since Tobi has a jutsu way too haxed for the bros to deal with.

If it was as easy as that, then Itachi would be able to oneshot even the Jūbi, making even the Rikudou Sennin look like a fool.

Didn't you know? Itachi can one-shot even Rikudou Sennin and the Juubi at the same time with his Tsukuyomi

Still I too believe that the Sword can't seal a bijuu, if that would've been the case Itachi could've sealed Naruto in the sword, preventing permanently Tobi and Madara's plan, as well as the Akatsuki's.

As xXan said it did not seal Oro's hydra jutsu when he sliced the heads, so he probably can't seal/absorb pure, raw chakra, which is the composition of all Bijuu's bodies

[Naruto2011]

This is overkill IMO, I mean naruto, bee, kakashi, and gai were having the fight of there lives with just those jins. They are watered down here because they don't have the bijuu mode but I don't believe they can survive this or the gedo mezo for that. I doubt that the gedo can be sealed by the tousaka sword because it's chakra is just too massive and also the fact that it really isn't living creature, it's a statue

[ninjabot]

@xXan: Well, I still think the Bijuu aren't fueling Gedo Mazo with their chakra, let alone their full amount. As for not being to seal away the snake heads from Orochimaru, according to the databook, the reason is because it seals away things that it pierces. It has to pierce it. Chopping something won't seal it away because it has to be actively vacuumed into the gourd.

If Itachi would've stabbed Orochimaru in the stomach of his giant hydra form then everything, including the heads from each hydra, would've been absorbed. Instead he had already seperated the heads from the body.

Also, Gedo Mazo was "alive" before it was even connected to Nagato:http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/447/8

Still I too believe that the Sword can't seal a bijuu, if that would've been the case Itachi could've sealed Naruto in the sword, preventing permanently Tobi and Madara's plan, as well as the Akatsuki's.

As of right now Itachi hasn't shown any ability to take something out of his gourd that he's sealed away. If he were to seal away one of the bijuu Tobi would immediately realize his plan and finish him off. He likely had to wait for the right opportunity, as he was always working with Kisame, who likely was a snitch.

[KiSwordsman]

Sasuke and Itachi both are capable of everything they've shown, but Itachi is the version that fought Sasuke, meaning his stamina isnt very impressive. Fight takes place where Naruto and Bee were fighting Tobi.

The Edorikki are there aswell, but can't go into Bijuu Mode. They can however, use all other jutsu shown aswell as Version 2. They are not immortal. Also assume that Tobi has no Rinnegan abilities other than shared eyesight (until he starts showing them in the manga). His other abilities are fine (Izanagi, intangibility, warping).

Who wins?

He does have the soul ripping ability, He outright stated he could do it on yamato. Does that one not count because he hasn't shown it?

[Uchiha_Blood]

As of right now Itachi hasn't shown any ability to take something out of his gourd that he's sealed away. If he were to seal away one of the bijuu Tobi would immediately realize his plan and finish him off. He likely had to wait for the right opportunity, as he was always working with Kisame, who likely was a snitch.

I meant permanently sealing the Kyuubi, without it their plan would've been for naught