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There is certainly possibility that other warriors before Clare's time have deserted the organization. However, the organization usually tie up any loose ends and that's why they have the "Eye" trained for situations like that. If such warriors do exist, Yes Leroid!, Miata can certainly sniff them out. Unless Yagi sensei wants to introduce such characters that are needed for the plot, I don't think we will see them.
But I do believe that there are actually active Claymore warriors fighting the Dragon Kin and their forces on the main land. Otherwise, the war would have been long over. I am interested to see, if they do exist, how strong the main land Claymore warriors are compare to the ghost and if there are deserted warriors that become like the ghost on the main land.
Regarding the generations.
From the reader's perspective, I agree with littleangel that it should be look at from who's the No.1 during that time as the generation. It makes more senses and much easier to grasp the timeline.
However, from the organization's perspective, since they have all the information that the reader don't have. I believe they assign the generation according to when they turn the girls into Claymore successfully. For instance, as shipments of little girls came in and when they successfully turn them to Claymore then they count as a generation. Or they can go by year, for instance, year 2, all the little girls that turn into Claymore in that year would consider generation 2 and so on.
As to Miata, I hadn't really considered her. I agree with Galetea and leroid, she would be able to sniff them out. That being said, the best thing they can do for that little girl is to not give her any assignments. She's way to unstable. Really, the best thing Miria could do for all the young recruits and special cases would be to teach them yoki suppression and keep them from situations which would encourage its use (aka combat). If they did this till at least they were adults, it would help guarantee there survival, and avoiding turning into AB. What do you guys think?
Yes, I do think trying to get the trainees and newer Claymores to learn Yoki suppresion would be a good idea. Also training those with the skill in Yoki sychronization. Remember, the ghosts prove it's not impossible to come back once you start to awaken. And it's easier if someone can sychronize, and calm the Yoki flow. Their are still Yoma and awakened out their, so not fighting isn't totally an option, for the full fledged Claymores.
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@Wickedsmile. I believe that both “yoki synchronization” and the personality traits of the ghosts have influenced Miria to take the decision of pairing the warriors. I strongly agree that an impulsive Helen is calmed down by a much cooler Deneve and that Yuma is Claire’s anchor (beautifully said btw )…
But, it’s a two way street IMO: for example, Deneve realized she’s “only a human” because Helen “opened her eyes”; whilst, Yuma learned how to gain a little confidence from Claire. Although Yuma is not as strong as Clare, their lower ranks made her feel more comfortable around nr 47. Besides, Clare was the living proof that the rank does not necessarily define the strength/power of a warrior, which stimulated Yuma to deal with her insecurities.
As a result, it could be said that the ability to synchronize their yoki and to work in teams, increased the Ghost’s power levels.
As for the Claymores in the main land, yes, they are their and fighting on the Org.'s side and leaving them to awaken and kill the DoDs as we have seen in the manga when Miria revealed their existence.
Well if it were like this then their would be more than 500 generations because as we all know they don't take long to finish their training plus they don't have one group, they have many! Just like Clare and Elena they were warriors in some gap between them so does that make them generation 78 and 79?? and so does that make Audrey 80 and Miata 81? so now how many generations we can get from this? So I think this also doesn't work because it is too short just like the years based theory, the 5 years theory makes space only for 20 generation so the only normal and simple explanation I came up with is the N.1 based theory.Quote:
Like I said before, the organization has their own way of assigning generations. It is only my guess that they may have go by it when the little girls successfully fused with the yoma part, by year, by when they full become a warrior in a particular year, or other methods. The truth is we don't have information that the organization had.
Base on your No.1 Based theory, Teresa stated in the manga as the 77th generation and the 182nd warrior to be created by the organization, so then there were 77 No.1s which leave only 105 warriors to fill the ranks of 2 to 47 in all 77 generations.... But that doesn't really make sense tho and very unlikely.
Like I said before, your No.1 based theory is easier for us, the readers, when we discuss about who's and what generations. However, I believe that the organization certainly didn't use No.1 based theory when they assign the generation.
Last edited by God Eye Galatea; May 11, 2012 at 09:31 AM.
....Oh hell no, that would be a godawful thing to happen....that seems a huge cop-out...it's one thing if Miria wisely paired some members with other members, in order to keep them (relatively) under control....but that they 'feed' of eachother and actually, in power, grow by syncing their yoki with eachother...Originally Posted by Ancy
Oh god, that would be terrible.
The only reason why Miria had Yuma and Cynthia go with Clare is because Clare is reckless. Miria was worried about her and didn't want her running off without someone else around. And Helen and Deneve traveled together because they are best friends. They didn't have to necessarily follow Miria's orders.Quote:
Also Claymore1, if we recall, Miria doesn't necessarily play favorites...she didn't pair Helen and Deneve together at Pieta, if you recall. She's empathetic, and a super carebear, but she's still very rational in her own way.
But the whole yoki-sync idea working like that just goes way too far in my opinion, and actually is way too lifeless and hollow....it's hard to describe, but could you imagine people, litterally, feeding off eachother and balancing and overcoming their personal flaws in such a matter? That by hanging out with Yuma and Cynthia, Claire litterally becomes more soft and sweet?
Maybe I'm taking the whole idea the wrong way, but that's what I'm getting from it -- plus, feeding off eachother's power would only push things farther then they already are....I mean, by syncing with strong warriors, it doesn't matter how weak you are...you'd essentially just be leeching off of them and getting stronger like that.
Again, maybe I'm not 'getting' it the right way, but I don't like either idea...that people overcome their limits and flaws, whether personality or power-wise, in such a manner.
That would be funny
But maybe when she reunites with Raki she will be that way. OR she will super pissed at him for traveling with priscilla.
Last edited by Claymore1; May 11, 2012 at 06:05 PM.