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    Re: Techniques Discussion

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    I was thinking about this the other day. Niou's Ilussion really lets him synchro with anyone? I mean, yeah, he can become a Mutsu (to synchro with another Mutsu), Kikumaru (to synchro with Oishi), and probably any other player in a synchro pair... but what about non synchro pairs?

    In his match with Atobe, that synchro probably only worked cause Atobe is an arrogant jerk... would that work with Kaidoh for example? Maybe we overestimated his doubles skills...
    In the match with Atobe, he pass the requirement of "being in great peril" because the pair were losing when the syncho trigger off. It is unknown if he can pull it off always or not.
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    Re: Techniques Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardy View Post
    I was thinking about this the other day. Niou's Ilussion really lets him synchro with anyone? I mean, yeah, he can become a Mutsu (to synchro with another Mutsu), Kikumaru (to synchro with Oishi), and probably any other player in a synchro pair... but what about non synchro pairs?

    In his match with Atobe, that synchro probably only worked cause Atobe is an arrogant jerk... would that work with Kaidoh for example? Maybe we overestimated his doubles skills...
    Hmmm...
    I think Niou can Synchro with anybody at the moment.
    I think it only happened at the moment Ochi and Mouri were going to finish off Atobe/Niou because for Niou to grow and strengthen his Illusion ability he needs to be on the brink of getting crushed.
    Like almost every MSer.
    Nearly all MSers on the brink of getting completely shat on tend to grow.
    Examples of players who were getting shat on and then came back as beasts:
    Echizen Ryoma VS Yukimura Seiichi Momoshiro/Kenya VS Hara/Taira
    Sanada Genichiro VS Yukimura Seiichi
    Atobe Keigo VS Irie Kanata
    Kaidoh/Inui VS Kirihara/Yanagi
    Kirihara VS Krauser
    Fuji. S VS Shiraishi
    Fuji. S VS Niou

    I could go on.
    Well that is my theory at least.
    I think Niou is indeed the best Doubles player in the series and can perform Synchro with anybody.

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    Re: Techniques Discussion

    I'd think Niou can synchronize with anyone by just illusioning as that guy because the basis of synchro is that both guys know each other like the back of your hand. Well by definition you also know yourself like the back of your hand. The only reason he wouldn't synchronize is if he is significantly weaker/stronger than his partner, in this case the synchro wouldn't be meaningful. Let's say Tezuka at nationals team up with Niou and they're playing 2 Sanadas. The real Tezuka could come up with a plan like he'll use Phantom to draw out a Rin, then Niou smashes the ball, and then they swap roles (to reduce damage from Phantom), and when they have 4 games they each do 4 ZSS on their serve to win. However at this point Niou will point out he can't use ZSS at this point and probably can't sustain Phantom nearly as long as the real Tezuka, so this strategy wouldn't work. Now Tezuka can lower his level to match that of Niou, but if you're fighting against 2 Sanadas then 2XNiou level characters obviously is just going to get steamrolled so not much point to do that either.

    Niou didn't synchronize with Atobe early on, and I'm guessing it's because it takes time for him to figure out how to illusion all of Atobe's abilities correctly. He didn't start out as an illusion against Fuji either, and he told Sanada to be quiet because he's gathering info, so there's presumably some gathering intel phase before he can perfect his illusions. Of course he can illusion as a weak version of Atobe and synchro, but that wouldn't be any good against their competition.

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    Re: Techniques Discussion

    How do people think syncho interact with people who are bad at doubles, like Echizen?

    And how does it intereact with aura, such as PoP?
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