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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
we know rai is strongest in noblesse. but what if union have some one stronger or as strong as rai.
i mean look Magician by Kim Sa Rae in that we see Edermask who live 300 years and lots strong but than we saw his brother Janus who is stronger than him.
Majeh - King of Hell we have see him as strongest in world than now we have m***** (forget his name) who is stronger than majeh
in ID the Greatest Fusion Fantasy we have see how powerful id is even more powerful then god and we have 6 Chaos whom he cant kill or seal
so i think just like this union maybe by experiment,contract or something else create someone as powerful as or more powerful then rai. or he is original werewolf noblesse. i think whoever he maybe is 1st elder
Last edited by Jammin; May 26, 2014 at 10:27 AM.
I doubt someone more powerful than Rai could actually exist: he's been introduced as THE Noblesse, THE supreme being who has power above all by definition. His only weakpoint is that his health is contantly getting worse, so that might be the reason of his defeat... assuming he doesn't keep winning every single time XD
I think it's possible if the strongest of the Ex-Clan Leaders using advanced modification to make himself even more badass or something like that. Maybe goes part werewolf or something.
But I suspect in the end Raizel will always be either the strongest or close to it, until he dies that is.
I believe the power of the Noblesse is different in nature. He's closer to a god than to an extremely powerful being. Last chapter pretty much confirmed it for me.
Whoever the #1 of the Union is may be roughly equal to Rai, like maybe he found a way to replicate the Noblesse's power or something.
Maybe we'll find that #1 somehow managed to steal some of Rai's power during the betrayal. Tjat might also explain whyit took so long for Rai to recover.
Are the nobles strongest creatures in the world? Unless that's been answered, it isn't easy to state whether Rai is the strongest or not. There may be a werewolf on par with Rai or even stronger.
Rai's powers are unrivaled and I believe no one stronger than him actually exists. The only drawback he have is the nature of his powers. Now that Rai is weakened ex-clan leaders can hope to defeat Rai.
Maybe we will see some powerful being like "The Vampire King", some ancient noble from Lukedonia's forgotten history, etc..
I just thought of something really disturbing after reading this thread.... What if the previous lord faked his own Eternal Sleep to join the Union! When the Union attacks Lukdonia and he goes with them, he can just reclaim Ragnarok or maybe he has something stronger that was created. He would probably be the most unexpected Elder ever, also the one Rai would least like to fight.
I doubt that. He didn't seem to be the type of guy to make that much effort for some silly Union thing Apart from that, his ideology, from what we've seen, contradicts the "nobles are superior and have the right to rule over humans" of the Union.
^ We were showed his face.
that might have been the original inspiration of the authors. that's why at the start there was a more positive introduction of Rai as being ancient, and possibly the most esteemed being, and his altruistic nature. But as the series goes on, the authors might have changed tune, or make subtle changes to the initial plan. Or maybe they still cannot decide where they are heading, and tend to be a little more secretive. (the less words you commit, the more room for changes)