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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
danzo probably didn't know about naruto being minato's son,but even if he did,hiruzen was really protecting him,and we already know that the councillors(homura and koharu) wanted to prevent he could risk. I mean,danzo and the others agreed with hiruzen who wanted to mantain the secret,for the leafs sake,of course
It would be a nice twist if this flashback re-strengthened Kabuto's resolve that he does indeed have a purpose and identity and then he proceeds to stomp the Uchiha bros
Still hard to see Kishi going:
"Oh, Kabuto knows about this mysterious thing...and this mysterious thing, oh and also that mysterious thing"
"Kabuto has THIS power...and THIS power, that power...oh btw he has Sage Mode...but he dies 3 chapters later"
I think we'd all be like ooook. So he's like Aizen? Aizen was hyped up beyond belief for several arcs only to be defeated by the biggest ass-pull in Bleach history. Don't hype Kabuto up so much (about what big revelations he knows about and how sick his powers are only to kill him a few chapters later).
Last edited by zerocooldx; April 19, 2012 at 09:25 AM.
Don't forget that Kabuto infiltrated Konoha as well. So now Hiruzen is a joke? That must mean Gai and Kakashi are jokes as well. It's not even clear that Jiraiya knew before the Konoha invasion. There's nothing to say Minato would find out unless he has some psychic ability we're unaware of.
however i do think that 'how do they gather info actually in narutoverse' is a good point. this also occurred to me that the way we're now seeing information being gathered in flashbacks is not quite in line with how we've seen it in present time occurrences...like how sasuke and taka gathered info about B in cloud village or jiraya did in rain village.
but i guess on both those occasions the other villages pretty quickly caught upto the enemy activity. i guess what lower caliber ninjas like kabuto did was to take info without the infiltrated village ever finding about them. that's why danzo would use some one like kabuto instead of oro or other powerful ninjas at his disposal to gather info in a time consuming fashion, instead of the wham-bam-genjutsu style.
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i think this chapter needs to be considered in making timelines. the flashback clearly happens after uchiha massacre,since danzo had the eye patch...i guess that kabuto younger than itachi.
around the time of the kyuubi attack. But this also adds some timeline to when Oro left the village for good. We saw he worked for Danzou and I'm pretty sure that was when he was still part of the village. Though we could be wrong completely here and Danzou may have had the eye patch before getting the sharingan. But judging by that it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Minato died before the massacre (massacre happened when Naruto was 5 or 6). Orochimaru certainly wasn't still with the village considering he left because Oro appointed Minato hokage.
See the plot hole here? Its either Danzou had the eye patch for a long time, or Kishi screwed up. I'm going with the former, Danzou also looks much much younger as well.
Edit: just noticed my stupid mistake. :x
Last edited by llamapie; April 19, 2012 at 12:28 PM.
Yeah this does kind of stretch the bounds of credibility. I can accept that Kabuto was sneakily taken into Root and since he was out on missions for the Foundation all the time no-one in the village (except the orphanage) could know who he was. But for him to enter the Chunin exam 7 times and no one to ever raise an eyebrow over him? So a kid show up out of nowhere that no-one has ever seen before, becomes a genin, and enters the Chunin exam 7 times and ... profit? Oh well - this is probably one of the smaller 'problems' in Kishi's plot so I'm not going to sweat it, but clearly Kabuto's backstory is being seriously ret-conned by Kishi at this point and we're just supposed to shrug and ignore everything that happened before the timeskip except for the VotE.Quote:
IMO it's pretty clear that Kishimoto started to develop the whole plot without even thinking about outer villages. Then, suddenly, from the Shippuuden saga the rest of the world was born. With grotesque results, like Pain that wtf-pwned a whole village out of the blue, and therefore Naruto that wtf-pwned Pain like it was a chuunin exam. Or the resurrection of mythical monsters, like the 3rd Raikage a.k.a. Robocop or the Kin-Gin brothers, sad kids grown up on chakra meat and legendary weapons, instead of ramen and milk.
What this really makes me wonder is exactly when else and for how long Oro was paling around with Danzou and Root... wasn't he in Akatsuki at this point? Guy always did have his hands in many sinister soups.
Also, a thought just occurred- that other guy is Aburame Shikuro or whoever Tobi mentioned must be Torune's father. I'd like to know more about that guy if Tobi praised him.
Last edited by badluckartist; April 19, 2012 at 10:54 AM.
Also, don't forget that despite them knowing Orochimaru was gonna attack, Konoha still ended up devastated by a force of 200 and were unable to do anything against any of the Paths even though they had them outnumbered a dozen to one. And how no one in the village seem to have notice the dozen of people, including sixty children, being kidnapped and experimented on by Orochimaru right under their noses. So Konoha hasn't exactly been shown all that competent either.
Last edited by Rikudou King; April 19, 2012 at 10:52 AM.
How can we get such a lame chapter right before Golden week? There is nothing to discus for an entire two weeks. That sucks.
It implies that Orochimaru had help in. With him being involved with root, a member even, it makes sense.
Last edited by KiSwordsman; April 19, 2012 at 12:02 PM.
^Thanks for reminding the Kage's meeting part. It's even worse (again lol) than expected from Danzou. Actually it shouldn't surprise me since he was willing to let Konoha in ashes by preveting Naruto to come against Pain. This is not about the village anymore despite what he kept saying. I guess he realized he was starting to get too old for seat and that damn Hiruzen is still not dead, so he had to act quickly.