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Thread: Long Distance Tier Debate

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    Long Distance Tier Debate

    Ok usually when there is battle debates the characters are within close proximity of each
    other. But what about long distance fights? Basically ones that rely on real hunting skill.
    Who is the ultimate hunter?

    (I actually made this for a Narutoverse battles but I think it can work here too)

    RULES:

    It's one on one fights. Character X vs Character Y

    Each character starts off 10 miles away from each other.

    Each character gets a day of prep. However they can't use
    that day of prep to search for their opponent. They can
    however fortified themselves from enemy attack.

    Each character doesn't know where there opponent is
    but when the fight starts they can look for them.

    Each character does not know their opponents abilities.
    However they do know they are fighting their opponent.
    They know who their opponent is. But that's about it.

    Each character is allowed one conventional weapon and limited ammo.
    Basically if they have a gun then they get a single clip.

    Location is a forest that is 50 miles in radius.
    There are no animals in the forest for some strange reason.
    Just to clarify SUMMONS are allowed.
    Neither character is familiar with the forest.

    Weather is sunny for 5 minutes and rainy the next 5 minutes. Repeat.

    Time of day is Midnight.

    If there's anything else I should add just tell me.

    Note: Filler characters and/or game characters get whatever power they had in that filler/game.

    Canon characters only get canon powers.

    Nen is of course allowed. Not sure any specific rules there.

    First Fight:

    Kalluto vs Ponzu

    Who's the better hunter

    Remember to not just take battle and nen into consideration but tracking skills as well.

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    Re: Long Distance Tier Debate

    I was about to say "Meruem"
    Then I saw Kaluto vs Ponzu and got like
    No idea who would win between the two. Though I bet Kaluto could find a way to torture Ponzu without activating her secret.

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    Re: Long Distance Tier Debate

    Okay now this is a tough one. Does anyone know the distance Ponzu's bees can travel? I presume they can travel fairly long distances as she tried using them to send a tiny letter in the Chimera Ants arc. Kalluto seems more of a support role than an offensive, which leads me to believe that Ponzu may have the upper hand. That is until you take into account Kalluto's ability. Kalluto would see Ponzu's bees coming. But pertaining Kalluto does not understand the level of danger of these bees and how exactly Ponzu controls them, Ponzu could win.

    This is a tough one but I'm gonna give it to Ponzu. Kalluto just seems to be the weakest of the Zoldycks in my eyes and Ponzu's ability is well suited to this style of battle. I thing Kalluto would have trouble dealing with a large quantity of bees and has not shown any hint of long distance attacks. So the winner would be Ponzu.

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    Re: Long Distance Tier Debate

    Ah so you want a Meryem fight.


    Ok...

    Poisoned Meryem with about a minute left to live vs

    ALL 3 Royal Guards.

    (Yeah it says one on one but hey I made up the rules. I can adjust them however I wish)

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    Re: Long Distance Tier Debate

    Meryem wins. lol

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    Re: Long Distance Tier Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by futurefrog View Post
    Meryem wins. lol
    how?

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    Re: Long Distance Tier Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by mrsticky005 View Post
    how?
    Easily.

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    Re: Long Distance Tier Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Hunter View Post
    Easily.

    Explain.

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    Re: Long Distance Tier Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by mrsticky005 View Post
    Explain.
    Okay, Meryem showed no signs of any loss of power during his poisoned state. I strongly believe he could take all 3 royal guards in less than 30 seconds.

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    Re: Long Distance Tier Debate

    Or the royals just surrender their bodies to him and he turns god.
    What about another choice of fighters? This time, it could be between Franklin and Razor.

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    Re: Long Distance Tier Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by futurefrog View Post
    Okay, Meryem showed no signs of any loss of power during his poisoned state. I strongly believe he could take all 3 royal guards in less than 30 seconds.
    How far is his En? Because remember they are 10 miles away from each other in a forest with a 50 mile radius. Also in case it needs to be explained they don't know they are 10 miles
    within range of each other. They just know someone else is in the forest.

    It's not really a combat question but whether or not Mereyem can find them all
    before he dies.

    ---------- Post added at 07:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:23 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by heron bpv View Post
    Or the royals just surrender their bodies to him and he turns god.
    What about another choice of fighters? This time, it could be between Franklin and Razor.
    Hm interesting choice.

    Now Razor's weapon would probably be a dodegeball...But I see no reason why he couldn't apply the same concept to say...a rock.

    Not sure who the better tracker is though. And they both seem to have good range. Razor seems to be a better evader though.

    I say Razor wins.

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    Re: Long Distance Tier Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by mrsticky005 View Post
    How far is his En? Because remember they are 10 miles away from each other in a forest with a 50 mile radius. Also in case it needs to be explained they don't know they are 10 miles
    within range of each other. They just know someone else is in the forest.

    It's not really a combat question but whether or not Mereyem can find them all
    before he dies.

    ---------- Post added at 07:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:23 PM ----------



    Hm interesting choice.

    Now Razor's weapon would probably be a dodegeball...But I see no reason why he couldn't apply the same concept to say...a rock.

    Not sure who the better tracker is though. And they both seem to have good range. Razor seems to be a better evader though.

    I say Razor wins.
    I gotta agree, I think Razor is much quicker than Franklin as well and his strength seems to be much more than Franklins. Also I always felt that Franklin was kinda stupid. I don't know why lol.

    How about this one, Hisoka vs Illumi in long distance battle?

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    Re: Long Distance Tier Debate

    Illumi. If Hisoka has no proper place to put his gum in order to accelerate his movement when the encounter starts, he has no range at all. In this condition, Illumi's needles have the upper hand.

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    Re: Long Distance Tier Debate

    Does anyone know how far Meryem's en is?

    Is it anywhere near 10 miles?

    If not then I think Meryem dies from the poison. and the at least 1 of the 3 guards survive.

    Why?

    Finding Pitou and Youpi is simple enough. But how about Pouf who can split apart?

    Though I wonder if the whole mind reading might come into play here?

    Anywho I'm not saying for a second the royal guards are stronger than Meryem.
    I had to poison the ant king to give them any remote strand of a chance.

    as for Hisoka vs Illumi

    Could Deceitful Texture come into play somehow?

    like Hisoka could make foot prints that lead Illumi into an ambush?

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    Re: Long Distance Tier Debate

    What about Franklin seems stupid, or slower then Razor? He seems to be one of the more level headed spiders, very brutish at times but not on the level of hotheadedness that is Uvogin or Nobunaga. This is hard to judge since we've really never seen him in anything close to a real fight. But purely judging based off their abilities I think Razors seems a lot trickier, so I'd give it to him. Franklin's hatsu seems strickly used for combat and crowd control, I really have no idea what he'd do in any other combat situation (long or close range)
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