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    Re: Your 1st String

    Well, I wanted to make it the most ¨equal¨ as possible, as if it really was a 1st string. Of course, I could just let Tanegashima, Byoudouin and Oni rape everyone (and let Sakata, Gakuto and... Horio in those places, lol) and use the better players to win more matches.

    Tbh, I believe Ryoma has a chance (just because he's Ryoma though, not his current abilities). Also, Sanada / Kite is a pair. Sanada rapes Ohmagari like it happenned before. If Tanegashima hits a null ball, Kite can just teleport to it.

    I needed someone good enough to beat Duke... why do you think that Atobe won't be enough? I mean, sure, the dude sent Gin flying, but it's not like we don't know that Technique can nullify a power difference. If he could outrally Ochi and Mouri having less stats than both of them (I know, it was just with synchro, but I doubt many players can actually do that) then he should have a shot, albeit minimal. Also, he was just behind Yukimura in my tier, lol. If you want it, have Atobe vs Ryoga and Kintarou vs Duke.

    I don't see Executions nor Negotiations working against a pair in Synchro state, that's why I picked them. Also, I still doubt how good Kimijima really is. As for the other pair... we'll never see Data Pair again I guess so we'll never know how good they can actually be.

    Leave Kirihara out, Gin's in then... I still dunno. It can be super one sided or close, depending on how well Shiraishi can play among power players.

    Marui can use WC... if it worked against Tohno's shots (someone who is far superior than Taira / Hara -guys that got soloed by Momo- ) to the point that he had to injure him to stop Bunta, then I'm pretty sure it can work again. And Kaidou is in the back hitting combos, like a nerfed Kite/Marui (we discussed this pair before actually, lol).

    Kirihara is free now, he'll take Akiba. I just need someone from the rest of the pool to take him (Jirou, Kabaji, Yuushi, Sengoku, Kirihara, Kenya, Hirakoba, Zaizen and Yagyuu... one of them should have a chance. I still prefer Kirihara over any of them though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    Your list would get eaten up by the HSers though lmao.
    (Nicest way possible bro)
    Not nice enough

    ---------- Post added at 12:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:38 AM ----------

    I'd also like to discuss how good Bakyuun can be.
    Last edited by Hardy; March 22, 2014 at 09:54 AM.

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    Re: Your 1st String

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardy View Post
    Not nice enough
    My apologies haha

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardy View Post
    Well, I wanted to make it the most ¨equal¨ as possible, as if it really was a 1st string. Of course, I could just let Tanegashima, Byoudouin and Oni rape everyone (and let Sakata, Gakuto and... Horio in those places, lol) and use the better players to win more matches.
    Lol I get your point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardy View Post
    Tbh, I believe Ryoma has a chance (just because he's Ryoma though, not his current abilities). Also, Sanada / Kite is a pair. Sanada rapes Ohmagari like it happenned before. If Tanegashima hits a null ball, Kite can just teleport to it.
    I've been thinking about this a lot. If Ohmagari is using his Nitoryuu insanity, can Sanada still defeat him, I couldn't really tell since Akutsu kept interrupting and hitting smashes that owned Ohmagari.[/QUOTE]
    Duke has a 5 in Speed. No forget that. Duke has a minimum of 5 in every single stat.
    Atobe isn't at that level yet outside of Plot-Armored Synchro boosts imho.
    I mean, prior to Synchro, his rallying was maybe above Mouri/Ochi's by the tiniest margin, or their rallying abilities were all equal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardy View Post
    I needed someone good enough to beat Duke... why do you think that Atobe won't be enough? I mean, sure, the dude sent Gin flying, but it's not like we don't know that Technique can nullify a power difference. If he could outrally Ochi and Mouri having less stats than both of them (I know, it was just with synchro, but I doubt many players can actually do that) then he should have a shot, albeit minimal. Also, he was just behind Yukimura in my tier, lol. If you want it, have Atobe vs Ryoga and Kintarou vs Duke.
    Atobe has better Technique than Duke but DH is absurd. With a 7 in Power, and that fact that all Power Players power shots tend to exceed the player's actual power stat, it doesn't look good for Atobe in the long run. I can't see Atobe tanking more than 1 DH's let alone 3 or 4.
    I agree, I also have Yukimura and Atobe in the same place on the tier. But I see neither of them beating Duke in the long run.
    A bunch of DH's? And the fact that Duke is somehow "Bigger, Better, Faster, Stronger" literally, puts Yuki & Atobe in a bad position here. They can't win in the long run.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardy View Post
    I don't see Executions nor Negotiations working against a pair in Synchro state, that's why I picked them. Also, I still doubt how good Kimijima really is. As for the other pair... we'll never see Data Pair again I guess so we'll never know how good they can actually be.
    I get your point with the Synchro thing, however I can assure you that Kimijima's stats are real.
    What confirmed it for us, is the fact that Kimijima confirmed he never went beyond 60% throughout the entire match, but whilst an Ohabu to the face sent Marui to the floor and Marui has a 2 in Power, Kimijima took the Ohabu to the face and didn't even flinch. Proving he has a 4 in Power.
    Kimijima's rallying put Marui out of the game prior to WC. And Kimijima wasn't even at 60%. His stats are real.

    But I totally agree that WoK Synchro should eliminate Negotiations & Executions. I think Tohno/Kimijima's higher stamina will be something that may save them here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardy View Post
    Marui can use WC... if it worked against Tohno's shots (someone who is far superior than Taira / Hara -guys that got soloed by Momo- ) to the point that he had to injure him to stop Bunta, then I'm pretty sure it can work again. And Kaidou is in the back hitting combos, like a nerfed Kite/Marui (we discussed this pair before actually, lol).
    I literally forgot about WC & Laser combo.
    You had a good pair here. Marui/Kaido ftw overall.
    But Bakyuun will have them shitting bricks imho.

    I reckon Bakyuun will put holes through Marui's racket. Not so sure about Gyro Laser though.
    Aren't Bakyuun and Gyro Laser hit in a similar fashion? Bakyuun gave me the impression it has some kind of gyro spin.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardy View Post
    Kirihara is free now, he'll take Akiba. I just need someone from the rest of the pool to take him (Jirou, Kabaji, Yuushi, Sengoku, Kirihara, Kenya, Hirakoba, Zaizen and Yagyuu... one of them should have a chance. I still prefer Kirihara over any of them though).
    I'd prefer Yushi/Yagyuu/Kenya here over Kirihara. Since Kirihara stopped using DM, and he can't use AM outside of pairing with Shiraishi, he's now reverted back to Regionals!Kirihara (w/out Muga lol).

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardy View Post
    I'd also like to discuss how good Bakyuun can be.
    Personally, I believe it can put holes through most players rackets. I can't really tell what the threshold is though. I don't know what the limit is for when it can't put a hole through your racket.
    That's my problem. Kenya has a 4 in Tech, but so does Ochi. I don't see Ochi being owned by Bakyuun...
    It's hard to say for me.

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    No. 1 - Yukimura Seiichi
    No. 2 - Echizen Ryoma
    No. 3 - Echizen Ryoga
    No. 4 - Houou Byoudouin
    No. 5 - Jujiroh Oni
    No. 6 - Tanegashima Shuji
    No. 7 - Duke Watanabe
    No. 8 - Ryuuji Oumagari
    No. 9 - Ikuto Kimijima
    No. 10 - Shuusuke Fuji
    No. 11 - Keigo Atobe
    No. 12 - Kuranosuke Shiraishi
    No. 13 - Genichirou Sanada
    No. 14 - Masaharu Niou
    No. 15 - Yanagi Renji
    No. 16 - Kintarou Touyama
    No. 17 - Kanata Irie
    No. 18 - Kawamura Takashi
    No. 19 - Momoshiro Takeshi
    No. 20 - Kirihara Akaya

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    Man, MH has a too many Brazilians :/

    Lol, welcome Shiro, nice 1st String. Just asking, is Tohno dead for you and Duke/Ohmagari and Fuji/Kimijima are pairs?

    I guess that, considering these last 2 chapters, we should do top 14s now instead of top 20s. I think I'll post one soon.

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    I'm gonna do a top14 separately for HSers & MSers.
    MSers:
    No. 1 Yukimura
    No. 2 Atobe
    No. 3 Kintaro
    No. 4 Sanada
    No. 5 Akutsu / No. 6 Kawamura
    No. 7 Sengoku / No. 8 Mizuki
    No. 9 Nioui / No. 10 Kite
    No. 11 Fuji
    No. 12 Krauser / No. 13 Kirihara
    No. 14 Shiraishi
    HSers:
    No. 1 Tokugawa
    No. 2 Irie
    No. 3 Byodoin
    No. 4 Oni
    No. 5 Mouri / No. 6 Duke
    No. 7 Kimijima / No. 8 Kaji
    No. 9 Tonho / No. 10 Fuwa
    No. 11 Tanegashima
    No. 12 Hakamada / No. 13 Nakagauchi
    No. 14 Ochi
    Last edited by Philia; August 03, 2014 at 12:26 AM.

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    ^ Akutsu and Kawamura would probably make a good doubles pair. Niou and Kite pair is unexpected. Sengoku and Mizuki don't exist anymore. Nice, no Ryoma/Ryoga XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philia View Post
    No. 12 Krauser / No. 13 Kirihara
    No. 14 Shiraishi
    There are people here who wanna see Shiraishi/Kirihara again.
    I'm surprised you've made the bold move to pair Krauser and Kirihara after their violent and bloody encounter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    There are people here who wanna see Shiraishi/Kirihara again.
    I'm surprised you've made the bold move to pair Krauser and Kirihara after their violent and bloody encounter.
    Kirihara/Krauser pair would be a fun to watch. Who wouldn't like to see a bloodbath?
    Shiraishi is better off playing singles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChinkyCandie View Post
    ^ Akutsu and Kawamura would probably make a good doubles pair. Niou and Kite pair is unexpected. Sengoku and Mizuki don't exist anymore. Nice, no Ryoma/Ryoga XD
    Ryoma/Ryoga are in USA. I did it with current U-17 camp players.

    Mizuki is the data player. Sengoku is one to cheer the team up. Good for team's morale. A balanced team need to have 1-2 weaker players.

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    I'm sure Inui and Yanagi have better chances than Mizuki really when it comes to data tennis.

    Konomi doesn't know what to do with Sengoku anymore. It makes me laugh how so many people have high hopes for Sengoku.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChinkyCandie View Post
    I'm sure Inui and Yanagi have better chances than Mizuki really when it comes to data tennis.

    Konomi doesn't know what to do with Sengoku anymore. It makes me laugh how so many people have high hopes for Sengoku.
    Nah. Mizuki needs to be in it. I'm not sure what I have in defense of Mizuki. But he might be a better strategist than Inui & Yanagi. Mizuki could predict opponents line-up easily. Also he seems to be more witty than those 2.

    And Sengoku has the potential next to none.

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    I never liked Mizuki. He was arrogant in thinking he could pwn Fuji only to get thrashed 7 games straight. I don't find him to be as intelligent as Inui or Yanagi. And I'm sure as hell if Yanagi lost against No. 17, Mizuki wouldn't stand a chance against anyone from 11-20. Yanagi is the best MSer at data tennis.

    You seem optimistic about Sengoku. I already know he no longer exists :P

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    ^ Mizuki's arrogant. That's why I like him. I agree he'd be beaten by majority players in the camp. Mizuki/Sengoku pair would lose against any pair too. But They should be there. Mizuki for collecting data & making strategies. And Sengoku would be good for team's moral. I think he can cheer people up.

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    I'm sure other people could do Sengoku's job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ken- View Post
    I'm revising my list, because my old list is pretty out of date.

    No.1 Oni
    No.2 Tokugawa
    No.3 Byodouin
    No.4 Ryoga
    No.5 Ryoma
    No.6 Kintarou
    No.7 Shuuji
    No.8 Sanada
    No.9 Yukimura
    No.10 Duke
    No.11 Oomagari
    No.12 Kimijima
    No.13 Tohno
    No.14 Kaji
    No.15 Atobe
    No.16 Niou
    No.17 Shiraishi
    No.18 Ochi
    No.19 Mouri
    No.20 Irie

    I didn't include Tezuka, and I'll probably also remove Yukimura as soon as he is officially out of Japan.
    Hey, it's 11/11 HS that's reveal so far and 7/7 MS that I predict are all on the MS roster (Ryoma do got chosen). That's 18/20 that I predict correctly, a pretty nice and high prediction rate. I'm pretty happy. I notice not many people are putting all G10 members on the list although they seem like no brainer.
    Most of the thing I post is probably assumption if it's not a fact that I support using some evidence from the manga.

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    Re: Your 1st String

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardy View Post
    Man, MH has a too many Brazilians :/

    Lol, welcome Shiro, nice 1st String. Just asking, is Tohno dead for you and Duke/Ohmagari and Fuji/Kimijima are pairs?

    I guess that, considering these last 2 chapters, we should do top 14s now instead of top 20s. I think I'll post one soon.


    Thanks dude

    MY pairs are Tanegashima Shuji / Duke Watanabe and Shuusuke Fuji / Keigo Atobe


    Tohno is dead for me!!!!

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