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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
So what about the "the stuff people say on these forums"? Just to let you know this forum is called Discussion/Predictions. I have just stated my theory. Everything else you see here are all theories and guesses until the next chapter comes out. (:
I'd rather hear from you why my guess is out of the question rather than make it sound like its stupid and idiotic. (:
Last edited by unusualangel; April 28, 2012 at 12:26 PM.
Ichigo was great. Not only didn't he blink at Kirge's attack, but he even threw it back at him barehanded. Can't wait to see Ichigo handles the Holy Form.
I loved the Holy Form of Kirge till... i saw the shoes. Darn Kubo, those shoes aren't epic!
The way that Kirge spoke makes me think that Ishida had a lot of secret training to develop his abillities.
And either Vandenreich kept an eye on Ishida or his father was in touch with Vandenreich all the time.
I love this chapter, funny, everybody seems to think the other 4 special weapons are big guns..I wouldn't be surprise if it was ichigo's friends, that would be hilarious...I hope that isn't the case though, these chapters keep getting better and better....keep it coming!!!!!!!!!
Last edited by liductan; April 28, 2012 at 01:25 PM.
I wonder what he meant when he said that it was impossible for Ishida's attack to be weaker than his.
Why is Ishida so special?
And, it seems that those quincy will also have a "release" mode, just like the Shinigami and the Arrancars.
I have a stupid question.
Will there be a new bleach this wednesday?
Or do we have to wait a week?
Don't know if anyone else noticed this, but when Kirge went Vollständig, his eyes changed into black and white vertical lines. I'm thinking that the "Monks of Destruction" have become the "Angels of Destruction" now. Holy weapons, Quincy Crosses, and other motifs make them seem more like a group of angels. And if this is the case, I am behind this new Quincy theme.
good chapter. infos are always welcome . the fight is going on pretty well,and the art was excellent too. maybe the end was a bit strange,that's why I didn't vote epic.
For an army that seems to know so much about their opponents, why do they seem so convicted in their desire to kill Ichigo? That's the worst possible strategy anyone could come up with? You kill him...and then you have to deal with Hollow Ichigo.
Nice chapter, a lot of interesting stuff going on here.
The first thing worth commenting are the sternen ritten. It seems their numbers are rather small, 7 or 8 (can't really be sure if one of the cloaks is actually 2). If they are to fight the captains, SS allies and the ryoka gang and they have all the information they do seem to have they must be quite stronger than a normal captain because they are outnumbered 2 to 1 basically. If their power only made it to captain level then SS would destroy them at this point.
That Kirge knew about ishida in such a fashion was rather disturbing. Its was like ishida was not actually their enemy and to boot it was also like they were expecting him to join them. I wonder what they know of his dad and what role he has in all of this. Ishida's dad has never particularly wanted to fight as far as we know, he didn't even want ishida to be a quincy. In this regard, I can't imagine him having a place among vanderreich. Of course, I would think they expect him to join them.
The fight with kirge is rather interesting although confusing. I thought we would see quincy using weapons in conjunction with their quincy crosses to make weird bows as we saw with kirge the last chapter however it seems they take things a step ahead of that. The glove which he just showed is basically a sanrei glove and it allows for access to the quincy final form which we have only seen once before. The issue with that is that the form was supposed to have severe drawbacks. I can't imagine these guys going to war with SS with only something so unstable as a weapon. As we saw with ishida, the final form was enough to take someone barely at VC level to the point where he could overpower a captain. In this regard, the final form is a brutal powerup, perhaps the strongest we have seen to date. However, that wouldn't make sense here. If we have people close to captain level going through such a thing the result would be desastrous for SS at the very least, no actual chance of winning. More so, one fight in which they have a time limit and they would be out at least until someone shot them in that spot which allows quincy to regain power. I think this final form is not quite the same as we saw with ishida against mayuri basically. This is a controlled form which does not have neither as much power nor as severe drawbacks. The time ishida used it it took his power beyond human limits, hence why he lost his power. I think that this form merely pushes the power of a quincy to its very limits hence it does not have as much power nor its severe side effects. Still, a controlled form which could be used at will would be absurdly strong too.
anyway, ONTOPIC, The one thing that stuck out to me this chapter was the whole thing with Uryu. That guy did not speak of uryu as if he was a enemy or someone he "casually " knows, he spoke of him as if he knew him very well and regarded him as a mutual ally. I just get the feeling that Uryu is hiding something from Ichigo and his friends. He did not want to go to Hunco Mundo which could be explained by him knowing that Vandereich is there and not wanting to go there with Ichigo since he knew Ichigo would fight them.
Now I just wonder how does Ryuken fit into all of this? Given his power and how important he seems as a Quincy I would think that the Vandereich would have DEFINITELY come to ask him to join (if he hasn't done so already).
Last edited by Darjaille; April 28, 2012 at 03:02 PM.
oh holy °.°!!! Well Ichigo forget about Bankai if you use only that you'll have problems with this dude!! I hope I don't need to remind you about Uryu's "Lezter Still"!
And well I hope I am not wrong and he kicks his but easily like Ivan's!
Lol Kirge should be at least low captain level in base and by logical power scaling his final quincy form should at least be R1 ulquiorra level. Ichigo isn't winning this unless he releases bankai (I am assuming current ichigo is roughly equal to FKT ichigo), which Kirge can steal. this also goes for the rest of the shinigami.
this will be interesting.
also it's been how few chapters and bleach's war is already stomping naruto's war in terms of epicness?