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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
We're even told that it's Yukimura >> Sanada >> Yanagi over time. Yukimura dominated Nationals!Sanada (so obviously he's above Kanto!Sanada too), and Yanagi never manages to take a single game against Sanada once Sanada starts using Rin. That doesn't really look like equal strength to me.
As for the competition being stronger this year, there's a reason these guys are the first MSers ever invited to the U-17 Camp, or for comments like
It's made clear that the level is higher this year, and with a higher level, skill differences become more obvious.
And of course it's plot, so is everything else that happens.
And that's important because...? We are discussing the matter now and not in the week after PoT 215 was released.
Why can't we apply newly gained information to prior events?
Inui is powerful Powerful enough to take U-17 badge from the first stringers. And he's show to Renji's equal since SPoT started. I might agreed with Renji>Inui at national. But I can't agree with that right now anymore. People need to stop putting things they don't like that happen in the plot as BS-writing. You can pretty much do that against every characters. I used example from SPoT to show Inui victory over Yanagi is NOT a plot hax already.
And I'll still stand by that Kirihara's the one that seemed to get plot-hax in his match against Fuji. If anyone want to challenge that.
Last edited by -Ken-; April 22, 2012 at 11:43 AM.
Fayte and I were discussing on Rikkai VS Seigaku how it should have went. Therefore we would have gone into the match not knowing about Yanagi VS Sanada.
So all knowledge on the series is up til the semifinals.
At that stage in the story, Yanagi, Yukimura and Sanada were each referred to with the same prestige.
SPoT proves NOTHING with what happened at the regionals. Inui could have just improved in the mountains is all.
Although your right to clarify that right now Inui >Yanagi.
Like, if we had gotten the information about Sanada beating Renji before the end of S3, would that have changed anything?
Say that statement about Sanada beating Yanagi would have been before S3, it would feel horribly disconnected to me. Who cares at that point whether Sanada >> Yanagi when we don't know Sanada's level, don't know Yanagi's level and it's completly irrelevant to the match we're about to see. It makes much more sense to me to place it where Konomi did as we have a benchline in Yanagi.
If you want to discuss it just by Kantou Final alone, there is no reason to put down Inui and other co, using evidence past Kantou region. You can just take it that Fuji and Inui are that weak/strong, however you want to put it.
Wasnt necessarily on the thread title. Thread conversations dont always stay exactly to the title.
I was saying specifically Yanagi VS Fuji in the Regionals, and that saying Yanagi would win without plot power is logical. Its not been explained why its illogical.
Im open to say that Fuji could still have won as he is the exception to Data Tennis (Sounds like plot hax there).
Taking everything in account is fine, but you kept saying you didnt see my ''logic''. I have given logic to the passing comment I made but you may feel indifferent to this.