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Thread: Why couldn't Yamamoto kill the Enemy Leader 1,000 years ago?

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    Re: Why couldn't Yamamoto kill the Enemy Leader 1,000 years ago?

    Personally i think they could be blood related, and for Yama to become CC he had to fight Buckbeard, which he did but wouldn't kill him, instead he banished him from SS
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    Re: Why couldn't Yamamoto kill the Enemy Leader 1,000 years ago?

    I still read it as if CC fought him but,despite winning,hesitated and BB escaped. a kind of what happened between Orochimaru and the 3rd hokage in naruto.

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    Re: Why couldn't Yamamoto kill the Enemy Leader 1,000 years ago?

    VR leader is leading the invasion, so there's a pretty good chance that he'll meet Yamamoto which can shed some light on events that happened 1000 years ago. Being able to capture shinigami bankais encouraged quincies to make their move, perhaps Yamamoto defeated VR leader with his bankai and now he's back to take revenge on shinigami thinking they're not a significant threat anymore. When Ichigo went bankai, Quilge responded in a worried manner, it's as if there's something about bankai that bothers quincies besides the usual power increase.

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    Re: Why couldn't Yamamoto kill the Enemy Leader 1,000 years ago?

    I think its the fact the swords are a separate soul or something
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    Re: Why couldn't Yamamoto kill the Enemy Leader 1,000 years ago?

    Yamamoto couldn't kill him because; he was his brother's uncle's girlfriend's daughter's best-friend's pool-boy's roommate

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    Re: Why couldn't Yamamoto kill the Enemy Leader 1,000 years ago?

    Flashbacks OP, flashbacks...all will be reveal or at least partly

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    Re: Why couldn't Yamamoto kill the Enemy Leader 1,000 years ago?

    great topic by the way! Espiro

    i kind of feel like due to how stric Yama-ji is its gotta be something extremely dramatic for him not to finish someone considered an enemy especially in a 'war' it almost seems like he'd have to be related in some way to Yama-ji like some sort of son or grandson (i dunno how something like that would come about tho) or maybe a student

    so thats a good question lol i guess maybe it may have something to do with why Yama is the way he is....i understand he has to be a stric leader because he's the head of a military organization but he does seem to have an almost bitterness about him, the kind that usually comes about from say an incredibly sad love story like Samurai X and what that made Kenshin into....so i wonder if its something along those lines.....itws jus that he's so old that i wonder how it could possibly tie into now....even 200 years ago doesnt seem like long enough

    so once again GOOD question lol

    i mean how personal could it get if this king is supposed to be a quincy? were he a shinigami i guess all of our guesses would make more sense....which i guess is why i'm still not convinced he IS a quincy
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    Re: Why couldn't Yamamoto kill the Enemy Leader 1,000 years ago?

    That's a good point Saito, a 1000 years is far too for a human. Him being a shinigami would make sense, there is nothing solid yet to say he's a Quincy. There was this bit on wikia though about him materializing steps and the throne he sat on, those aren't necessarily things shinigami have been known to do...

    Yama is a very serious, head strong individual. A little softer since Ichigo, I can't imagine what could have happened that would have caused him to spare his enemy's life.

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    Re: Why couldn't Yamamoto kill the Enemy Leader 1,000 years ago?

    Wouldn't it be fitting and tragic if Buckbeard was Yamamoto's VC 1000 years ago?
    That would so fit with him killing Sasakibe as his first move to get to Yamamoto.

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    Re: Why couldn't Yamamoto kill the Enemy Leader 1,000 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by Asclepius View Post
    Wouldn't it be fitting and tragic if Buckbeard was Yamamoto's VC 1000 years ago?
    That would so fit with him killing Sasakibe as his first move to get to Yamamoto.
    It could make sense....

    This also has me thinking that maybe, 1000 years ago Quincy and Shinigami lived together as one unit but BB didn't like the fact he was under Yama and rebelled
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    Re: Why couldn't Yamamoto kill the Enemy Leader 1,000 years ago?

    He probably didn't kill them off because they were helping with the hollows and other problems that showed up. The reason is probably still unknown about why he did it unless they tell why he decided not to and whatever. I just think he decided not to because they didn't show any signs about being a threat at first
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    Re: Why couldn't Yamamoto kill the Enemy Leader 1,000 years ago?

    I've noticed something:
    somewhere in the manga it says that Yama has been the strongest for 1000 years, and he couldn't kill BB 1000 years ago, what if BB was the former CC (or maybe the heir to the soul king) and Yama had overthrown him and thus becoming the strongest shinigami. It could explain the grudge.
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    Re: Why couldn't Yamamoto kill the Enemy Leader 1,000 years ago?

    Yeah, maybe there was a dram but i think thats not the only thing.

    What if there is a connection between BB and Isshin? What if BB stealed Isshin's FGT and whole bankai? We all know Isshin lose his powers and we all know Isshın knows about FGT. Everyone thinking like that "oh, Isshın used FGT and lose his shinigami powers." But knowing a tech doesnt mean he used it right?

    http://www.manga-access.com/manga/B/...chapter/484/15
    In this page, guy's arm just disappear. Like FGT.

    And yeah, maybe he lose a fight to Yamaji. And yamaji couldn't kill him couse of his feelings-father, friend etc.-.
    It's explain why BB doesn't like fights
    http://www.manga-access.com/manga/B/...chapter/484/16
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    Re: Why couldn't Yamamoto kill the Enemy Leader 1,000 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stzake View Post
    What if there is a connection between BB and Isshin? What if BB stealed Isshin's FGT and whole bankai? We all know Isshin lose his powers and we all know Isshın knows about FGT. Everyone thinking like that "oh, Isshın used FGT and lose his shinigami powers." But knowing a tech doesnt mean he used it right?

    http://www.manga-access.com/manga/B/...chapter/484/15
    In this page, guy's arm just disappear. Like FGT.
    What do you mean just like FGT?

    Maybe Isshin physically stopped Yama from killing BB allowing BB to escape and getting Isshin banished?
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    Re: Why couldn't Yamamoto kill the Enemy Leader 1,000 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stzake View Post
    Yeah, maybe there was a dram but i think thats not the only thing.

    What if there is a connection between BB and Isshin? What if BB stealed Isshin's FGT and whole bankai? We all know Isshin lose his powers and we all know Isshın knows about FGT. Everyone thinking like that "oh, Isshın used FGT and lose his shinigami powers." But knowing a tech doesnt mean he used it right?

    http://www.manga-access.com/manga/B/...chapter/484/15
    In this page, guy's arm just disappear. Like FGT.

    And yeah, maybe he lose a fight to Yamaji. And yamaji couldn't kill him couse of his feelings-father, friend etc.-.
    It's explain why BB doesn't like fights
    http://www.manga-access.com/manga/B/...chapter/484/16

    Actually Isshin says that his sword wouldn't give him the knowledge willingly, so that suggests he did use it or tried to gain the knowledge
    http://www.mangareader.net/94-54486-...apter-409.html
    bottom panel he says "Zangetsu is gunna be on a rampage"
    http://www.mangareader.net/94-54486-...apter-409.html
    then here he says "my Engetsu was the same"
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