Ranking of the Strawhats' Strength

[kkck]

Well, there is the consideration that most of the damage luffy took from the thriller bark arc was large self inflicted. He took damage from the 100 shadows he had in him and he took damage from using both of his gears at the same time. The amount of damage luffy took from moria was not particularly severe from what I recall. Still, I doubt damage taking is in itself evidence of zoro being stronger. Luffy only reduces the damage from blunt attacks anyways, the rest affect him largely the same.

[zelllogan]

If I want to interpret "hints" in a special way, I can do a completely weird classment.

Zoro and Luffy: Luffy acknowledged Hyouzou as strong & he was just fodder in front of Zoro. Zoro took all the damage in thriller bark.
Zoro and Sanji: Sanji had an easier/shorter/more expeditive fight against Jyabura than Zoro against Kaku. He is never seen training & he is still rivaling Zoro all the time.
Franky and Sanji: Franky could easily broke out of that cell recently & Sanji's kicks couldn't do anything against it.
Brook and Robin and Franky: Brook was just overwellming when fighting that spider. Robin & Franky had lots of trouble (and not only due to the salt issue)
...

1) Brook
2) Franky
3) Sanji
4) Zorro
5) Luffy
...


More seriously, there are just 2 manga facts that really matter:
- there is an official "monster trio" & an official "weak trio"
- Luffy always fight the strongest, Zoro the second strongest, Sanji the third strongest

Rest is discussion. If some people want to believe that Zoro will acknowledge someone weaker than him as his captain, they can. If some people want to believe that Franky is stronger than Sanji, they can. If some people want to believe that Usopp is stronger than Luffy, they can too.

But, for me, all this is still highly unlikely.

[kkck]

I would argue that hyozo was actually stronger than hodi lol. I mean, hyozo was indeed able to block luffy before he took all those pills while hodi could not pull that off even after his transformation. As of now the completely accurate statement is that luffy always fights the big boss.

[hokageji]

I dont think we will see Zoro or Sanji use Haki. The crew has always based on unique fighting styles, and that will probably be retained.
Zoro is a swordsmen, and his strength might just lie in cutting, Haki imbued swords doesnt have to be the strongest fighting style.

Same goes with Sanji. They could use Haki, but right now it seems like he will learn techniques similar to CP9s.

I would personally rank them in this order. I am ranking them assuming they took part in one tournament, and not who they fought, I think that would be the best form of ranking them.

1) Luffy
2) Zoro
3) Sanji

4) Franky
5) Robin
6)Brook

7)Chopper
8) Nami
9) Ussop

[kkck]

So.... haki will be a completely generic trait which everyone but the strong strawhats have? I mean, we have coby, the vice admirals, the admirals, garp, Rayleigh, the lion guy from big mom's crew, every kuja ever, hancock, tashigi, smoker, sengoku, kong, shanks, ace, WB, and yet sanji and zoro would not have it? I don't think that would make sense, specially if we consider haki is a trait which comes along with strength and experience. In all likelihood, sanji and zoro already are haki users and reasonably good ones at that. Haki is not something like a specialized ability of fighting style, it is something plain generic every living thing in the planet has and could potentially learn how to use.

[Naruffy]

Haven't Zoro and Sanji already been hinted to have COO at the very least?

Also, I agree with kkck; Haki seems like it's going to be common in fights based on how many people have shown use of it as of late.

[matzik1212]

In my view Zoro and Sanji will always be the 2 and the 3rd place in the SH's. As for the question if Zoro is stronger than Luffy , my answer would be no . I mean yeah Zoro is a beast , he would definitely give problems to Luffy in a fight but i don't think he would win against him . I think their fight would be a draw .

Besides Zoro would never fight Luffy , they already had a little argument back in Whiskey Peak Zoro respect Luffy the most so he'll always stay as no. 2

[RedBerserk]

Personally i think that Zoro has the upper hand in a fight with Luffy... i mean, blades are his "weakpoint", he can bounce off bullets etc. but he can't deflects blades, add the fact that Zoro is wielding the swords and you can understand what i mean.
Luffy maybe is faster, but i doubt there is a huge difference (taking in consideration the fight with Kaku, a character that is really fast thanks to soru, but Zoro saw every movement).
Anyway i think that people tend to underestimate Franky alot, he has Kizaru's laser and no matter how strong the haki of a character is, if he take it in the face he's toast, he is probably a bit slow compared to the top-tier fighters of One Piece tough.
So for me the chart is:
1.Luffy/Zoro
2.Sanji/Franky
3.Brook/Chopper/Robin
4.Usopp
5.Nami

[kkck]

The whole thing about blades being luffy's weakpoint plainly do not make sense. He is not more vulnerable to blades than anyone else at all. Luffy cannot deflect blades but he is not one to take hits on purpose for that matter. Its not like the new world is the sort of place he can afford to take a hit at, ordinary haki users are more than able to bypass his rubery properties(as garp and the boa sisters have done). Or is the logical thing to assume luffy's weakness is also haki users for that matter?

[sir_rocky]

My ranking, for both pre and post time skip, would be:

1. Luffy & Zoro
3. Sanji
4. Franky
5. Brook
6. Robin
7. Chopper
8. Usopp
9. Nami

Imho Luffy and Zoro are pure fighters and others can't be compared to them. Every other member has some other role in the crew like cook, musician, doctor etc. but all they do is fight. I know many will disagree with me but i think that the gap between Zoro and Sanji is greater than most think.

And about the discussion if Zoro and Sanji have haki or not, i think that there is no way that they don't have it. Rayleigh said that he hopes that he will manage to teach Luffy basics in 2 years so it means it takes some time to learn to control it after you awaken it and if they didn't learn it till now they won't suddenly start using haki out of nowhere. Also they will probably be fighting logias in the future and haki is the only way they can do that. I would even say that Zoro has CoC. If pirate kings first mate has it why wouldn't he have it too.

[RedBerserk]

The whole thing about blades being luffy's weakpoint plainly do not make sense. He is not more vulnerable to blades than anyone else at all. Luffy cannot deflect blades but he is not one to take hits on purpose for that matter. Its not like the new world is the sort of place he can afford to take a hit at, ordinary haki users are more than able to bypass his rubery properties(as garp and the boa sisters have done). Or is the logical thing to assume luffy's weakness is also haki users for that matter?

Luffy, thanks to his body (beacuse of the devil fruit, and now haki too) absorbs blunt damage and bounce off bullets and so on, he has an advantage towards other fighters without weapons, but this don't mean anything to swordmen, that's all.

[kkck]

But you still can't qualify something to which luffy is just as vulnerable as anyone else as a weakness in itself. With that logic everyone in the OP world (except jozu and to some extent mr 1) have a weakness towards blades. Its redundant to say the least and far from an actual weakness. We might as well argue luffy's weaknesses are also haki, noro noro beams, magma, ice and nuclear bombs..... The way I see it for something to actually be considered a weakness per say the potential target should at least be specially weak against that.

[RedBerserk]

But you still can't qualify something to which luffy is just as vulnerable as anyone else as a weakness in itself. With that logic everyone in the OP world (except jozu and to some extent mr 1) have a weakness towards blades. Its redundant to say the least and far from an actual weakness. We might as well argue luffy's weaknesses are also haki, noro noro beams, magma, ice and nuclear bombs..... The way I see it for something to actually be considered a weakness per say the potential target should at least be specially weak against that.

Well, you are right, that's why i used quote marks for "weakpoint".

[EddyBob15]

Well, Luffy is working on his weakness to sharp weapons. If his haki gets stronger, he should be able to deflect such attacks.

[shionoro]

i dont think haki can deflect sharp things