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    Re: Did Aizen Know Isshin Before All This Started?

    Quote Originally Posted by dopeycheese View Post
    as to why isshin got hurt so bad from a cheap hollow shot, don't all physical bodies get hurt/act like normal even if the soul is shinigami?
    due to his powers not being fully available to him
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    Re: Did Aizen Know Isshin Before All This Started?

    Quote Originally Posted by devstauk View Post
    due to his powers not being fully available to him
    I just thought about this now. Maybe they took that scene out of the anime (him being injured by the fish hollow) is because since the anime started when the manga was already a bit far ahead, Kubo having produced the show didn't think about making Isshin's a shinigami till later on so when the anime started probably told them to take it out or something. Just a thought. Because if you watched the anime without reading, it would be more surprising and less weird.. i dont know.. im babbling.. Kubo likes anime omake's like Harribel's hollow status as a VL.

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    Re: Did Aizen Know Isshin Before All This Started?

    ^^ IIRC in an interview Kubo said he knew Isshin was a shinigami from day one.

    About the topic, Shinji didn't recognize Isshin's reiatsu when Isshin killed GF, so in all likelihood Aizen didn't know Isshin personally but he certainly knew Isshin was a shinigami.

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    Re: Did Aizen Know Isshin Before All This Started?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miyagi View Post
    ^^ IIRC in an interview Kubo said he knew Isshin was a shinigami from day one.

    About the topic, Shinji didn't recognize Isshin's reiatsu when Isshin killed GF, so in all likelihood Aizen didn't know Isshin personally but he certainly knew Isshin was a shinigami.
    or maybe isshin acted in SS after the pendoloum arc (and I guess so). yet,most of SS should have already known ichigo when he first invaded SS.so the 0th squad is the most probable,and we know that aizen was interested in the king,so he knew isshin as well.

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    Re: Did Aizen Know Isshin Before All This Started?

    The main thing that gets me is what byakuka and ukitake said when they saw ichigo on the bridge when he was trying to save rukia, i remember there being a comment about ichigo looking resembling someone but no name was given, i know there's a lot of speculation on if it was the chap rukia killed or if it was another character entirely
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    Re: Did Aizen Know Isshin Before All This Started?

    in that period,everyone was comparing him to Kaien,who was also Ukitake's former vice-captain. I doubt kubo thought about someone else,especially since those 2 were almost identical. yet,if kubo made things turn out to be someone else,it would be stretched but we couldn't but accept it.

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    Re: Did Aizen Know Isshin Before All This Started?

    there is a supposed reason for him looking identical to kaien, im sure i read that it was going to be known why in this arc
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    Re: Did Aizen Know Isshin Before All This Started?

    Quote Originally Posted by mattiaildivino View Post
    or maybe isshin acted in SS after the pendoloum arc (and I guess so).
    Rukia/Hitsu/Rangiku/Renji/Ikkaku would IMO recognize him then.


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    Re: Did Aizen Know Isshin Before All This Started?

    Quote Originally Posted by Darjaille View Post
    Rukia/Hitsu/Rangiku/Renji/Ikkaku would IMO recognize him then.
    not if he acted in the 0th squad. hiyori feared that she couldn't see her captain anymore after the promotion,so the 0th squad isn't in the same place of the gotei 13

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    Re: Did Aizen Know Isshin Before All This Started?

    I read somewhere that there is a reason it was only urahaha that went to SS with the soul sword to ask CC for permeation to help ichigo regain his powers, and the reason Ishhin didn't go is because it could have hindered the CC's decision, this suggests that CC and maybe the Older captains know him or of him. Also during the Azien arc CC plus the Older captains weren't near the fight between Azien, Ishhin, Yoruichi and Urhahaha so it is very likely they know him or his original identity
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    Re: Did Aizen Know Isshin Before All This Started?

    Isshin is a doctor in the real world , so that might have something to do with him being expelled from SS ? Maybe he was even the previous 4th division captain lol ...
    but what if he healed some hollow and that was strictly forbidden in the past because somewhere along 4he way he met masaki and she lectured him about all beings have a life form and should be defended unless they evil or something like that , or heck he defended BB and quincies from Yamamoto because ryuken was his friend and used his FGT right there and lost his shinigami powers

    As for aizen knowing of Isshin , maybe Isshin was some legendary shinigami and everyone knew him and aizen used his power to somehow erase Isshin from most of the shinigami's memory once he maybe knew that ichigo was his son and that made it easier for him to fake his death since ichigo was suspected of murdering him
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    Re: Did Aizen Know Isshin Before All This Started?

    Quote Originally Posted by heavenchoas View Post
    Isshin is a doctor in the real world , so that might have something to do with him being expelled from SS ? Maybe he was even the previous 4th division captain lol ...
    but what if he healed some hollow and that was strictly forbidden in the past because somewhere along 4he way he met masaki and she lectured him about all beings have a life form and should be defended unless they evil or something like that , or heck he defended BB and quincies from Yamamoto because ryuken was his friend and used his FGT right there and lost his shinigami powers

    As for aizen knowing of Isshin , maybe Isshin was some legendary shinigami and everyone knew him and aizen used his power to somehow erase Isshin from most of the shinigami's memory once he maybe knew that ichigo was his son and that made it easier for him to fake his death since ichigo was suspected of murdering him
    That's deep

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    Re: Did Aizen Know Isshin Before All This Started?

    If I remember correctly in the spoilers that were given by Kubo before this Arc started it was said also that this Arc will explain Isshin's history, it will explain why Ichi and Kaien look alike and also the connection between Isshin and two Yama's oldest students will be revealed and also Aizen's role in Ichi's birth as Aizen told Ichigo that he knew him from the day he was born.
    So I suppose Isshin was the leader of Shiba Clan , before it wasdestroyed.

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    Re: Did Aizen Know Isshin Before All This Started?

    It would seem that he was part of the Shiba clan, but all will be rivaled at some point
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    Re: Did Aizen Know Isshin Before All This Started?

    Quote Originally Posted by devstauk View Post
    It would seem that he was part of the Shiba clan, but all will be rivaled at some point
    didnt the kubo say this arc was gonna last 10 years ? i hope we dont have to wait for years to get info about isshin

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