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    Kabuto Yakushi vs Hashirama Senju

    Fighters at ready!!

    Current Kabuto


    VS

    1st Hokage


    Additional info:

    The battle takes place at the Forest of Death

    The 1st Hokage has no knowledge of Kabuto's abilities

    Kabuto is not allowed to use that special drug that nullifies 1st Hokage's wood abilities

    You know the rules last man standing is the winner

    Pre fight preparation:

    Scenario 1:

    *Kabuto is already in Sage Mode*

    *Kabuto is allowed 2 Edo Tensei summons and it can be anyone besides Madara or Itachi or Nagato

    *Kabuto has already summoned Manda 2*

    Scenario 2:

    Same rules and guidelines except he is allowed only 1 Edo Tensei summon and it can be anyone


    Ok people, WHO WINS?
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    Re: Kabuto Yakushi vs Hashirama Senju

    Seriously? 5 ET? Kabuto wins this easy. He can summon them and just move away and let them kill Hashirama.

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    Re: Kabuto Yakushi vs Hashirama Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by xXan View Post
    Seriously? 5 ET? Kabuto wins this easy. He can summon them and just move away and let them kill Hashirama.
    FINE!! for scenario one make it only 2 Edo tensei summons still no Madara, Itachi, or Nagato
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    Re: Kabuto Yakushi vs Hashirama Senju

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-58427-1...apter-515.html

    Check out the last panel... imho one of the worst possible matchups ever
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    Re: Kabuto Yakushi vs Hashirama Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by LnDRash View Post
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-58427-1...apter-515.html

    Check out the last panel... imho one of the worst possible matchups ever
    In all fairness, Kabuto will not be allowed to use that special drug in this fight.
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    Re: Kabuto Yakushi vs Hashirama Senju

    @LnDRash

    He can just neutralize the poison by activating Tsunade like regeneration. This would be no diferent then a poison that would kill a human.

    Regeneration on that level would repair any damage done by the poison. Its not like kabuto is rewriting his DNA so his abilities don't work anymore.
    Last edited by xXan; May 10, 2012 at 02:53 AM.

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    Re: Kabuto Yakushi vs Hashirama Senju

    I don't think he can get the poison out of his system by using regeneration. And with his powers suppressed I'am not even sure he can even activate his regeneration, since Yamato is just lying around completely helpless.
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    Re: Kabuto Yakushi vs Hashirama Senju

    @LnDRash

    Well Yamato does not have regeneration or any type of healing. Also he is tied up on the floor with those 2 around, what can he do but sit. Poison works by damaging cells, nerves and so on. A regeneration that can can grow new organs out of nothing (cells) would have no proble repairing anything that venom has done. Eventualy whatever is already inside Hashirama would run out, and that eventualy is in seconds. That poison really has no way of damaging Hashirama when he can recreate cells faster then the poison could ever hope to damage them.

    Then again Kabuto does not need poison to win here or even ET zombies if you ask me.

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    Re: Kabuto Yakushi vs Hashirama Senju

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-314-9/n...apter-309.html

    Apparently Mokuton does grant some kind of regeneration. It makes sense because in case of trees you are basically sprouting living organic matter from your body, which would require the creation of cells.

    Imho thats the source of Hashirama's regenerative powers, I doubt he uses the exact same method as Tsunade, so with his Mokuton suppressed, he wouldn't have access to his those regenerative powers.

    But as you say, Kabuto should take this even without that poison. With the recent chapter there are only very few people left who would actually stand a chance.
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    Re: Kabuto Yakushi vs Hashirama Senju

    Hell no. Really? does kabuto has the power to beat hashirama who beat madara and the kyubi together in a battle? Kabuto doesn't have the power to cancel/cut an entire forest. Judging from kabuto's statement, he describe hashirama as a GOD and a myth. So how come kabuto can defeat that kind of shinobi? And We don't know the entire caliber of hashirama. BUt madara himself stated that hashirama's jutsu is on different level than the 5 kages jutsus.

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    Re: Kabuto Yakushi vs Hashirama Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by marshall313 View Post
    Hell no. Really? does kabuto has the power to beat hashirama who beat madara and the kyubi together in a battle?
    We have absolutely no idea how he won that battle, it was even mentioned he had assistance from his wife, Uzumaki Mito. And even in case he was alone, Mokuton is specifically mentioned for the power to surpress and control Bijuu.

    Is Kabuto a Bijuu..? No he isn't.

    And back in Hashirama's days Madara didn't have Rinnegan and Mokuton, and neither was he a immortal, self regenerating zombi.

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    Kabuto doesn't have the power to cancel/cut an entire forest.
    And since you can't crush Kabuto because he can turn into water, thats not a big deal.

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    Judging from kabuto's statement, he describe hashirama as a GOD and a myth.
    And Kabuto describes himself as the person closest in power to the Rikudou Sennin, so what? Besides, titles and hype don't win you a bttle, otherwise Hanzou would be invincible.

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    So how come kabuto can defeat that kind of shinobi?
    Bringer of Darkness Genjutsu = useless thanks to Kabuto's senses.
    Mokuton = unable to crush or hold Kabuto thanks to his liquid body and shikotsumyaku bones.

    In terms of healing factors they are at the very least even... and thats me being generous, because on top of regeneration Kabuto also has Oral Rebirth and possibly Oro's White Snake form.

    Now add to that all of Kabuto's other abilities, like Genjutsu which is strong enough to trap even two of the most haxed genjutsu users the Manga has to offer... Sage Techniques like Muki Tensei and Hakugeki... Manda II... Edo Tensei etc. etc. etc.

    The only thing Hashirama has going for him is the pollen jutsu.

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    And We don't know the entire caliber of hashirama. BUt madara himself stated that hashirama's jutsu is on different level than the 5 kages jutsus.
    And thats supposed to tell us what? Kabuto is stronger then any of those 5 Kages, so he's "on a different level" as well.
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    Re: Kabuto Yakushi vs Hashirama Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by LnDRash View Post
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-314-9/n...apter-309.html

    Apparently Mokuton does grant some kind of regeneration. It makes sense because in case of trees you are basically sprouting living organic matter from your body, which would require the creation of cells.

    Imho thats the source of Hashirama's regenerative powers, I doubt he uses the exact same method as Tsunade, so with his Mokuton suppressed, he wouldn't have access to his those regenerative powers.

    But as you say, Kabuto should take this even without that poison. With the recent chapter there are only very few people left who would actually stand a chance.
    What it showed in that link is not regeneration. Its Yamato using wood element to push the blade out. I really don't see that wound healing. Add to this that nowhere was it stated that Hashirama used his wood to heal. Madara stated that Hashirama could heal with no handseals. So i see no evidence of wood healing anybody. That injury was not showed to be healing or anything.

    Creating wood is 1 think, converting that wood into flesh, bones, nerves, marrow and all the other things 1 would need to regenerate organs, muscle and so on its completly another thing. Nowhere was the wood showed to be able to change properties like that.

    What creates wood is not life force. Is just water and earth combined with that Keke. If anything Naruto has the ability to use life force chakra as he made that wood grow and whatever. I gues the end result is life but the end result.
    Last edited by xXan; May 10, 2012 at 04:52 AM.

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    Re: Kabuto Yakushi vs Hashirama Senju

    Incredibly hard to judge, Kabuto is making short work of 2 MS users ( despite Sasuke holding back ) and is showed time and time again to be in the top 5 fighters in the Narutoverse.
    He has everything:
    a body capable of withstanding/evading great deal of damages, a wide array of jutsus, a lethal taijutsu style, neat ninjutsu and genjutsu.

    On the other hand Hashirama is a master in Mokuton ( and thus Ninjutsu ) while being great in genjutsu and taijutsu himself.
    He can regenerate, make undistinguishable clones of himself ( perfect replicas to the last cell ) and is able to regenerate his wounds like Kabuto does. Also he has probably way more chakra than Kabuto, being the pinnacle of the Senju and having remarkable life force.

    Still Hashirama's Flower World is very difficult to withstand and impossible to dodge, seeing the range ( which is, like, as wide as a village ) and Kabuto didn't show an AOE kind of jutsu like Oonoki's Dust jutsus.
    Kabuto's best friend would be Deidara or the Second Tsuchikage, since he would fly outside it and not being one-shotted by it, and also destroy it with an overpowered clay explosion or a Dust jutsu. Adding another ET in the mix would be way too much imho, say he summons the Second Tsuchikage and the Third Raikage, it would be too much for even Hashirama.

    Let's also not forget that Hashirama doesn't know about Kabuto's abilities, Sasuke and Itachi are faring good because Sasuke knows about every ability Kabuto has. Like Oro said, sometime Intel is better than jutsus.

    So scenario 1, Kabuto wins with enormous difficulty.
    Scenario 2, it is a little more easier for him.

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    Re: Kabuto Yakushi vs Hashirama Senju

    @xXan

    Take a look at Madara's and Yamato's Wood Clones.

    They have skin, eyes, hair, chakra... to me they look very much alive an organic, with flexible joints etc.

    And that wood jutsu Yamato used came out of his wound, so imho that would also mean the wound got closed.

    Of course there's no die-hard evidence for any of this, but it makes sense... and considering we have no idea how Hashirama's regeneration actually works, you can't just claim it would remove a poison which is specifcally designed against him either.
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    Re: Kabuto Yakushi vs Hashirama Senju

    @Uchiha_Blood

    Kabuto going puddle mode should be enough to avoid the polen. Obviously water does not need to breathe :P

    @LnDRash

    Naruto SC jutsu have eyes, flash and everything else. That is how clones work. Its just magic. As long as we go with that logic he can reproduce and matter. Iron? sure if you have it on you, rock? Sure if you have it on you. That is a special case with clones.

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    and considering we have no idea how Hashirama's regeneration actually works, you can't just claim it would remove the poison either.
    And you can't say it will not so i gues we are at a impass. But what we do have is Madara comparing Tsunade's regen direcly to what Hashirama was doing and she obviously does not have wood element.
    The thing is if its NOT wood based it should heal him up no problem. Kabuto would need a virus type of attack that would trick the body into thinking this is normal body operations and it does not need to heal/regenerate loss tissues.

    Poisons are just toxins that damages cells, nervers and so on. Something that can heal half the belly and the vertebral column in some 2 seconds would make any toxins completly irrelevant.
    Last edited by xXan; May 10, 2012 at 05:09 AM.

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