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Hello all, obviously you can tell I'm new to forum but I wanted to start something up, ya know.
So I went and grab'd a part of Bakuman in color'd it in. I want to do this with all Chapters but knowing it took around an hour for one page makes that a... ALOT harder, before I go on take a look(Warning, im a bit sketchy cuz I haven't used Photoshop in awhile)
Chapter 1 Page 1.
Chapter 1 Page 2
So if anyone would like to help me out that has some photoshop skills and would like to take part just tell me, this is just a hobby though.
I always wanted to make manga, but cant draw so this will do for now
Also if this against rules or anything I will be fine with deleting the content, just want to get the word out.
P.S I'm doing a page a day so please come back.
Last edited by Nickzerz; April 30, 2012 at 04:22 PM.
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Good luck on this endeavour, though I have to ask, do you think manga looks better in colour? Personally I like it plain but I'm so used to it being in black and white by now.
Sounds interesting.I could contribute a page or two for now,though I can't promise it'll be more than that.
I would recommend coloring the buildings, even if they're white. Just color them like a very very white cream, so that they wouldn't get lost in the background and look uncolored. And to not ignore things like ties and ribbons on their uniform, just pay attention to detail. I do understand you're trying to get through quantity and not quality (which is why nothing is shaded, I imagine,) but at least color everything in, no?
And make the skin less... white. It just has to look colored, really. Things that don't look colored in enough just don't blend well.
Anyway, good luck! I'd love to read chapter 1 if you do it all.
@Knifeshade Haha thanks anyways, and yes and no. Manga looks perfectly fine without color, some of the epic moment's threw the series I do this would look better, for-say
@Googlez_kun That would be pretty cool if you could, just pm if you would like to do some.
@blade5468 Thanks that means alot, I really cant draw so this is like a fill up for that, I will get better some day though, and for the building's, I AM TERRIBLE at backgrounds, that why I requested some help. But thanks
Beside's all that the first page of chapter 1 was kinda eh, too greenish. But it was a huge pain in the a.
Colouring isn't hard per se, just extremely time consuming.
But yeah, I have to agree with Blade, if you're not going to fully colour in everything then it's not worth doing and just looks lazy-ish. You're better off concentrating on "impacting" coloured pages.
But with that said, I don't really understand how you can learn anything other than getting good at colouring (because that's kinda what you're just doing...). If you really want to hone your drawing skills, I suggest you pick up colouring Naruto since the line art gives you more leeway compared to say Bakuman because the latter is more detailed and the former not so much (it's like a colouring book in a way....).
Well if you're passionate, I recommend just sticking with flat colours. It's the quickest and easiest method and yields decent results because Obata's lines are so clean. You colour over the line in yours, and the colours are a bit washed out. As well as not being very accurate.
But this is next to impossible to do with only one person though, at any rate. 176 chapters is about 3382 pages.
did you actually bother averaging the page number?
but yeah, that's actually frightening, with one page per day it would take almost a decade. ffffah and in the ~50 days it'll take to color chapter 1 you could make a one shot or something, actually. With a lot of time to spare and improve it. oh well.
I also agree that if you want to learn to actually draw, coloring won't really help much. If you want to focus on learning (and understanding) other artists' work, you can just copy it, but coloring it in hardly tells you anything. If I was in your position I would work on the actual drawing, the sooner you start practicing the sooner you get better. I'm actually currently copying Bleach, (and I'll copy Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles after) in order to practice with the G-pen and understand /everything/ involved in the creation of a manga page, and then after I'm done I'll work on my own stuff. But if I was just coloring Bleach... I couldn't really understand it to the same extent, right?
But I'm sure coloring is fun and rewarding, so I'm not saying you shouldn't do it. I'm just saying you should consider where you're going with this, because if the primary goal IS to improve your drawing, you're going about it the wrong way.
But if your goal is to improve your coloring, to have fun, to contribute to Bakuman, etc, then this is of course a good idea. Just think about your priorities, I guess.
Last edited by DoctorApollo; May 01, 2012 at 02:29 AM.
Just a random calculation; 19 x 175 and then the loong first chapter added on top. But I was wrong, even chapters 2 and 3 had more than 19 pages apparently. And even then, still haven't calculated the stuff like special coloured pages already in some of the chapters.Quote:
Well it's a good way to past the time before we ever see a new piece in the future, that's for sure. Hehe.Quote:
I think it's a cool idea, but the amount of work involved in just straight out unrealistic. If you really want to take this idea seriously than you need to gather at least a two-digit number of followers who would work on this project with you. Not to mention that even if you are so enthusiastic about it, that doesn't mean your co-workers will be. I'd be ready to color a page of two, but definetelly not be coloring 20 pages a day for 6 months straight.
So, all in all I think it's a great idea, but it's a little unrealistic.
I suggest you gather a team first and try coloring the first chapter whole, to try out your techniques and get a general idea how to much time and organizational resources everything will require.
However,in this case,even though Takeshi Obata is a fantastic artist,who could draw realistically without a doubt,he already has a particular manga style,which is rather hard to color,especially later on in the series(it gets less detailed and more expressive around volume 3/4).
Ultimately,if you want to improve your artistic abilities,I'd advise you to color something like Naruto.Not only will you learn to color something realistically and correctly,you'll also learn how to draw.At least that's the experience I made.
On another note,copying other manga styles is kinda dangerous,if you do it carelessly.Manga-ka usually take reality and warp it into their own style.So when someone comes trying to turn or incorporate this already warped style into his own style,he's bound to end up with something strange.Not trying to say that you'll make this mistake,but it's something I'm noticing everywhere.
Copying in that sense is of course dangerous so I'm trying to do it as little as possible, but before drawing things by myself I figured I have to make sure I'm capable of an authentic recreation of real manga, to see that there's no skills I'm missing. Even things like effect lines are friggin hard to perfect, so that's the main reason I'm doing it. Not even the characters, really.
My main point is this: can you honestly say that you would learn how to draw by coloring Kishimoto's pictures more than you would by attempting to draw them yourself?