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Translations: Bleach 600 (2)
What school do you think will win? Feel free to make your own line-up, or used line-up from the manga. This include
Singles 3: Shiraishi
Doubles 2: Konjiki-Hitouji
Singles 2: Gin
Doubles 1: Kenya or Chitose-Zaizen
Singles 1: Kintarou
Singles 3: Kintarou
Doubles 2: Kenya-Gin
Singles 2: Chitose
Doubles 1: ???
Singles 1: ???
Singles 3: Kabaji
Doubles 2: Yuushi-Mukahi
Singles 2: Jirou
Doubles 1: Shishido-Ootori
Singles 1: Atobe
Singles 3: Yuushi
Doubles 2: Hiyoshi-Mukahi
Singles 2: Kabaji
Doubles 1: Shishido-Ootori
Singles 1: Atobe
Moderator message by: KaozThis thread is now for general comparisions between schools.
Last edited by Kaoz; May 06, 2012 at 07:34 AM. Reason: added prefix
Shitenhouji, hands down. kintarou, Chitose, Gin and Shiraishi win their matches. Hyoutei gets eliminated.
I agree Shitenhouji have a huge lead, however, with the perfect lineup hyoutei could win.
Let's assume Shitenhouji uses the same lineup than against seigaku. Hyotei have good chances if
S3: Atobe vs Shirashi - (Atobe could win)
D2: Koharu Konjiki / Yuuju Hitouji vs Gakuto/Oshitari (come on if Momo/Kaidu won this, gakuto/oshitari can too, Wakashi/Oshitari is another option)
S2: Kabaji vs Gin (Classic mirror, though kabaji never won a asingles match so far)
D1: Chitose / Zaizen vs Shishido /Chotaro (Imo clear win for hyotei)
S3: Kintarou vs Jirou (Hyotei hopefully defines the mach before this of course)
So clearly shitenhouji have an advantage, but with the right/wrong lineup Hyotei could pull ahead.
So the scenario where Atobe beats shirashi, then Oshitari/X beats Konjiki/Hitouji and then shishido / Chotaro beats chitose / Zaizen, it's not crazy at all, and you can always have the first singles win ever in the history of kabaji
Last edited by Fosprey; May 05, 2012 at 09:47 AM.
This probably should have been the Tier Ranking thread but its a good question nonetheless. D'you mind if we compare other teams aswell here Ken?
Going by the tier as well, this isnt totally in Shitenhouji's favour. Hyotei have a chance.
S3 Chitose Senri VS Oshitari Yushi 6-3
D2 Konjiki Koharu/Hitouji Yuuji VS Akutagawa Jirou/Hiyoshi Wakashi 3-6
S2 Shiraishi Kuranosuke VS Kabaji Munehiro 6-3/6-2
D1 Zaizen Hikaru/Oshitari Kenya VS Shishido Ryo/Ootori Choutarou 3-6
S1 Tooyama Kintaro VS Atobe Keigo 7-5
Reserve Ishida Gin VS Mukahi Gakuto 6-1
I think this could be a possible line-up but its not all Shitenhouji although I do think they will win.
There is no way Shishido and Chotaro would win against Chitose alone, let alone Zaizen as well. That falls way more in favor of Shitenhouji.
For a situation where Both teams agree that one person would face Chitose for SKnK would be insane as Chitose >>> Shishido or Ootori.
However at the same time, they contained Australian Formation beautifully and I think Shishido/Ootori VS Chitose doesnt necessarily mean a straight win for Chitose.
I say this because since his introduction Chitose has not showed a hint of improvement. Neither has Tachibana. Everything they had was stuff they already had and revealed. Nothing they had just learned unfortunately.
They even went easy on them til 3-3 hahaaa. They performed a freakin switch lol. They showed off the ambidexterity for 6 games lmao.
Yagyuu and Niou Singles wise are both fantastic players and are simply above the Golden Pair. Even if their co-ordination was the same as GP's they still would have won.
Yagyuu/Niou pair is amongst the best in the series. Especially even now as Niou can become anyone.
If this match happened, line ups might be
S3: Shiraishi vs Oshitari: Shiraishi wins 6-2. Even if Oshitari is very skilled, perfect tennis is more than enough to defeat a player like Oshitari. Oshitari doesn't have a chance to beat a top tier MS. He's too far of being able to reach such level.
D2: Gay pair vs Mukahi/Gakuto. Mukahi/Gakuto win 6-4, gay pair doesn't have much weapons to face them.
S2: Gin vs Kabaji: Not sure here, but I'm going with Gin. Kabaji can copy power shots, but he's limited by his own physical abilities. Gin is stronger physically than Kabaji, he can hit very high leveled Hadoukyuus and Kabaji won't return them. Also, Kabaji can't copy them because he doesn't have Gin's strength or has more power. Gin wins 6-2.
D1: Chitose/Zaizen vs Choutarou/Shishido: How can people claim that Chitose/Zaizen lose? Both of them are MILES ahead of Shishido and Ootori. Zaizen/Chitose win 6-1
S1: Kintarou vs Atobe. Epic match right here, Kintarou has to deal with Koori No Sekai, and Atobe has to deal with Kintarou's monstruous strength and speed. Also, Kint chan has Yama Arashi, and Atobe for sure wouldn't be able to return that. Kintarou wins 7-6
Overall, Shitenhouji is stronger than Hyoutei. I'm sure that if a match like this happened, Shitenhouji would have won.
Last edited by LetalHawk; May 05, 2012 at 05:08 PM.
As for the topic at hand, Shiten should have an advantage. I'd think that in order for Hyoutei to win, they'd have to make sure that Atobe doesn't face Kintarou, I don't quite see him winning this one, although he could probably beat Shiraishi and Chitose. A greater number of pairs can probably beat Konjiki/Hitouji, and it more or less comes down to the second doubles. So for example
S3 Shiraishi vs Kabaji
D2 Konjiki/Hitouji vs Shishido/Ootori
S2 Chitose vs Atobe
D1 Kenya/Gin vs Yuushi/Akutagwa
S1 Kintarou vs Hiyoshi
could work out in Hyoutei's favour, but that's already rather specific.
the 3rd best Singles player would be Chitose but either way both Chitose and Shiraishi > Yushi.
Had he not been distracted I believe he would have easily returned the Hadoukyuu.
Hitouji is just a weaker Niou which is fairly awesome. If we got to see these guys in a Singles match just once Im certain they would rise on the tier rankings.
Mukahi Gakuto is one person. Do you mean to put Akutagawa or Hiyoshi in that slot?
6-2 is unlikely. I see the same thing that happened between Kawamura and Kabaji happening here.
We dont know if Gin is stronger or if Kabaji could return them or not.
In doubles all Chitose has is Kamikakushi which Shishido's Rising Counter will handle.
Ootori wont lose his service games with Neo Scud Serve and Chitose probably wont with his coz of Kamikakushi but we know nothing about Zaizen.
We just know he is hinted as the next captain and is possibly awesome. (He deserves screentime I would love to see him play a Singles match haha).
That said, it shows in their match against golden pair that doubles tennis is not just about how well you play with someone, but your overall ability as well. Both Yagyuu and Niou would have 6-0'd Oishi and Kikumaru in singles, and therefore their overall individual ability is much higher. This is why putting someone like Chitose against Silver pair is no different. Chitose is on another level, therefore that automatically gives them the edge, regardless of his teammate.
So far the manga and anime let me think that double combination is way more important than individual skill. It was understood by me that the golden pair once synchro would lose against NO other MS pair in the series (Except maybe Inui/Renji). If individual skill would be really important, how the hell they put Oishi over Fuji vs hyotei? of course the answer double combination is more important.Quote:
Shishido and Ootori are established as the third strongest MS double pair (only behind GP and Marui/Jackal).
So imo shishido/ootori have the advantage here.
However Niou and Yagyuu are in fact a doubles pair as they played with each other in Round 2 of Kanto Regionals..