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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
Sengoku could probably challenge Shukuchiho same way Kikumaru did. So yeah, Sengoku > Kai but not Hirakoba. Habu is a crazy technique.
I still dont see Sengoku > Hirakoba at all. The guy who completely sealed Triple Counters + Hadoukyuus.
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He would beat Yuuta, Oishi, Ootori, Shishido in Singles etc. Since I dont see any of those taking 4 games off Sengoku.
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Tis a shame how badly destroyed he was.
This guy looked promising when he tried to trip Tezuka. Had no idea laughing is all he would be good for.
Sengoku's not that great either; he's just a lucky bastard. Skill be damned, he's just a lucky cat. He could probably play against Nanjiroh and win by default because Nanjiroh twisted his ankle and couldn't play or something.
I disagree, I think Konomi just forgot about him to be honest. I know it was just fillers, but Sengoku played singles 3 in the all Japan team in the anime because of his boxing style upgrade. The only thing he needs is an upgrade and he is top tier again. We just haven't seen him play since Richard. The same is true for Tachibana and Chitose. They are NOT bad, they just do not have enough screen time to evolve.
You can't compare them to Sengoku. Tachibana and Chitose are two of the most screentime-hogging, character-developing characters in the whole franchise. Like, I can literally have Sengoku go up against say, Yukimura, for whatever reason in my fanfic, and still write a match logical enough that Sengoku will win. He's a haxxorz.Quote:
Last edited by Brandnewkid; May 24, 2012 at 04:34 PM.
That's absurd. The last real singles match we have seen of Tachibana is against Chitose. The last real singles match we've seen of Chitose is against Tezuka. They hardly had screentime OR character-development. Their doubles match was the fastest one and it showed nothing. I have no idea where you got that from.Quote:
Then Konomi took it even further by having Tachibana being the one to play Fuji that night when he decided his Counters wouldn't be enough for the Nationals.
Then we got the history on Tachibana's legend in Kyuushu as the Wild Lion, along with Chitose, who wasn't seen up until that point but only mentioned in passing.
Then we finally see Chitose, who is not playing on Shitenhoji but instead some expert on Muga, and not only that, but he is the first character we ever see opening Saiki (and you say this match showed us nothing? LolStop)
Then we see him playing against Tachibana (I think), which was up until that point a hyped-up rematch.
^^ See all the development up until that point? Good. Now we get to the semi-finals, where Chitose, thanks to their coach, gets to play.
Chitose's skill at tennis / Muga overshadows us from ever seeing what Zaizen could do.
Don't deny it, Chitose and Tachibana have had their fair amount of screentime and development. The two of them are pretty major characters in the story. How you can compare them to Sengoku, whose screentime in the story and importance haven't even come close to theirs is crazy.
Last edited by Brandnewkid; May 24, 2012 at 05:25 PM.
Read my posts please, I said his DOUBLES MATCH WITH TACHIBANA IN SHIN-POT. The extent of their backstory is not relevant. Sengoku has a past with Sanada, Atobe, and Renji. We've seen that. We've also seen his eyesight being something to brag about. We know enough. I am talking about their roles in Shin-PoT. Because, y'know...we are reading SHIN-PoT. Not PoT. Tachibana and Chitose have HARDLY had any screentime in Shin-PoT. Sengoku didn't get a chance to play yet, so we still know nothing about his improved abilities. It is even more shocking to say Tachibana and Chitose have the most screentime in light of PoT1, when you know people like Atobe, Echizen, and Fuji exist. That was just an ignorant thing to say.Quote:
I never said they had the most screentime; I said they are characters with some of the most screentime. Never said that they have the most. Obviously there are characters with more screentime with them, but you can't put their level of importance on par with Sengoku.Quote:
Tl;dr: You're wrong, lol.
Fuji is a world above Kita and Nitobe. Kita and Nitobe didnt even get invited to the camp.
Sengoku has motion vision like Kikumaru and Saeki so sealing the vertical Shukuchiho will be a piece of cake, but Habu I dont think so.
It took Fuji 3-4 games to return it. Fuji >> Sengoku, so Im expecting him to take a while.
Sengoku seems to have high technique, but after losing to Kamio I dont see him defeating Hirakoba, who had he not showed off and used Ohabu, would have taken out Fuji and Kawamura pair without Chinen having to really put in any effort.
Habu is underrated.
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The whole reason they switched schools and how Chitose almost lost his tennis etc.
But your right with Shin PoT we havent seen anything from any of them.
Sengoku's background and relevance is in fact less than Tachibana and Chitose's.
For me its just that those in Court 6, have likely been thrown into the fodder can. Which is why I imagine Yukimura was removed from their.
I believe Sengoku is forgotten character. I liked him, but from his introduction he never really improved.
Sengoku VS Kikumaru would now be a good match. I personally would go for Kikumaru.
Also, Kita/Nitobe not getting invited is irrelevant for a discussion of the Tokyo tournament.