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Thread: Joint Review of Bleach 491: Toden Engel

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    Re: Joint Review of Bleach 491: Toden Engel

    characters (this wasn't easy):

    Orihime is the character that opens this chapter, which as predictable is dedicated to the explanation of Kirge’s transformation, in this sense I can’t recall Orihime being so observant, she has obviously grown a lot, she not just a lovely girl nor a burden anymore.

    The same goes for Chad: even though he has done nothing in ages he found out he has not just muscles and started using his brain.

    Talking about characters who have grown up Ichigo is a surprise: he hasn’t gone bankai yet, he’s actually trying to understand how to beat his opponent (considering before now he would go bankai for everything, even a mosquito flying around him, this is admirable); he also doesn’t lose a chance to make fun of the enemy (and I must say I agree with him on the look of Kirge)
    Urahara doesn’t appear in this chapter, but from ichigo brief flashback we see he still knows everything on everybody, so we can assume that once again he will have an important role.

    Of course Kirge is the central character, his transformation put him on advantage because he knows Ichigo has no information on it since it is completely different from what Ishida used versus Mayuri;. We can see from his eyes that he is completely sure he will win this battle, he shows no sign of excitation or surprise not even receiving a getsuga tenshou directly to the neck; of course this is because a “mere” attack like that can’t even scratch him since, as he says, he has no weak points (he’s like: “Ichigo, why do you even try???”)

    And finally, will the tres bestias have their vengeange after the humiliation of being defeated in about 2 seconds by a four-eyed poser? I doubt it, sorry girls
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    Re: Joint Review of Bleach 491: Toden Engel

    'kay, thanks for the parts. Will update the OP in a min.

    On another note, do you guys have any suggestions/recomendations about JRs in general? You've been doing this for some time now, so you should be having a couple thoughts of your own on this matter by now.

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    updated

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    Re: Joint Review of Bleach 491: Toden Engel

    Ill do my part within 24 from now.
    About thoughts- I would like to say that special pic for every part would be cool. Something like we see in Underscore's reviews.
    Last edited by vagabond87; May 12, 2012 at 03:51 PM.

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    Re: Joint Review of Bleach 491: Toden Engel

    Quote Originally Posted by vagabond87 View Post
    Ill do my part within 24 from now.
    About thoughts- I would like to say that special pic for every part would be cool. Something like in we see in Underscore's reviews.
    I've asked Gintara about headers ages ago. She said she'll do them, but still hasn't send me anything. I'll PM her again.

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    Re: Joint Review of Bleach 491: Toden Engel

    Quote Originally Posted by alphabeta View Post
    I've asked Gintara about headers ages ago. She said she'll do them, but still hasn't send me anything. I'll PM her again.
    notwithstanding she hasn't sent you anything yet, I think it's quite meaningless having those pics. I mean,if we had to post even pictures,our readers should read the chapter again rather than our review. but if you want to post just 2-3,I won't oppose...

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    Re: Joint Review of Bleach 491: Toden Engel

    Quote Originally Posted by mattiaildivino View Post
    notwithstanding she hasn't sent you anything yet



    These aren't chapter pictures we're talking about, it's headers for the three sections.

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    Re: Joint Review of Bleach 491: Toden Engel

    Quote Originally Posted by alphabeta View Post
    These aren't chapter pictures we're talking about, it's headers for the three sections.
    and how would we decide which header every section should get? is gonna be difficult usign just the chapter we're reviewing, in my opinion we'd better decide a general picture for each section and stick with it
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    Re: Joint Review of Bleach 491: Toden Engel

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrlazsa View Post
    and how would we decide which header every section should get? is gonna be difficult usign just the chapter we're reviewing, in my opinion we'd better decide a general picture for each section and stick with it
    We would have three section headers for each of our sections. Those headers would be the same for all Joint Reviews, not only Bleach JRs.

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    Re: Joint Review of Bleach 491: Toden Engel

    Alpha,during your absence some months ago,I tried to crop images,it was a really tough work. we should bypass the images matter and continue our typing .last week 2 guys voted "yes" whereas I voted "no". yet, both you and Lazsa didn't vote,so the poll wasn't complete. listen to me,leave the images.

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    Re: Joint Review of Bleach 491: Toden Engel



    Whatever, we still don't have any headers in the first place so this convo is kinda useless.

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    Re: Joint Review of Bleach 491: Toden Engel

    Ill be late. Ill post my stuff in 2hours.

    ---------- Post added at 04:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:57 PM ----------

    Fanboy

    It was one of those chapters that puts smile on persons face for looooong after reading it
    This chapter - named Toden Engel - gave me feeling that I didnt got since long time. Feeling of extremlly powereful enemy that is not like anything we have seen before. Kirge Opie in the way he looks is exact opposite of Ulquiorras segunda etapa but just like him he can be called definition of power. He is shown to be powerhouse and being able to tank Ichigos getsuga tenshou shoot to his face. If its just first of the opponents I can already imagine how awesome fights are awaiting us in near future
    For most chapter it looks like he cant be harmed in any way by our main hero. If blows from point blank range cant even nick his neck than what can do the trick?! Answer is easy. Allon can. Tres bestias can summon him now even without relasing- that show us how much they evolved. End of the chapter shows us that even Quincy in final form can be put on the ground with brutal strenght of monster among monsters

    Design of Kirge is getting more amazing with every chapter- all those world war II references in way he looks, moves and acts make him more and more terrifying to us, readers. Last thing beside art in this chapter that made my eyes bigger was how calm Ichigo was for most of pages. He didnt go bankai right off the bat and tried to see what he can do without it and that is awesome, making him protagonist that we want to see. Even seeing Kirge show off he didnt looked like "Im gonna PWN u with my Bankai bitch"(and we all know that he would be able to pull this off in bankai).
    This chapter was complete in every way I can think off and that is BIG accomplishment. Way to go Kubo! Give us more of this!

    I will do rest tomorrow morning coz now Im dead tired.


    Predictions
    When It comes to predictions I have very few ideas about how things can go from now on.
    It would be great build up if Allon gets and I think its most likely outcome. Kirge for last few chapters is shown to be amazingly strong enemy, so I dont think that Allon would beat him up to pulp but we might be in for suprise.
    If I go predictable route from here I think that Allon + Ichigo will beat up Kirge and then Allon- that cannot be controlled- will try to attack Ichigo. Then our main hero might go bankai on chimera because Allon IS stronger than shikai Ichi- he managed to hurt Opie using simply brute strenght, normal punch. I think that Ichigo still cant use Bankai because Kirge is badass that Ivan wasnt and he knows that he can end up with his bankai blocked/absorbed by him.
    And I think that ending of next chapter would be best time to show us one of the capitans from SS almost beaten up(I hope it wont be some foot-ending chapter once more) and fighting some Awesome Quincys Stein Still.
    Last edited by vagabond87; May 14, 2012 at 05:14 AM.

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    Re: Joint Review of Bleach 491: Toden Engel

    Otaku Hater Debut; Bleach SMASH!
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    Well, the most eloquent words befitting this tragedy of and exploded G-pen are most simply strained as, ‘this chapter sucked.’ I think we can sum up this chapter’s art with a quote from Ichigo, in what is perhaps his only notable action of this chapter, or indeed notable action of any character in this chapter, as he enlightens us to what is most painfully obvious, “such a sad excuse for a costume.” Although he was regarding only the Quincy’s outfit, it is by no means a far stretch to claim Kubo is being meta here, as give it a page or two, and our villain (forget his name, for its not important) replies that his outfit is indeed, “unnerving.” He trails on to rant about how he’ll execute Ichigo, and as a reader I can’t help but to hope he takes my head first and ends this madness. I find it annoying that Urahara takes the time to explain to Ichigo what we have known since the second arc. I find it aggravating, that Kubo then takes this established fact and throws it out the window, informing us that the so called family of ‘geniuses’, has been reduced in an instant, to ingrates that failed natural selection due to their refusal to evolve. Why would you refuse to better your race, does that make sense? Is that something a genius would choose? If so then Kubo has surely painted the Ishida’s paper thin. No, if one were to accuse Kubo of throwing the quality of his story aside so that he may troll us for another century, they would indeed be correct. And what the hell are Chad, Orihime, and Urahara doing? Picking up dandelions, bowing the seeds, and watching them fly in the wind? There’s a fucking battle going on here! Pointless!
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    Re: Joint Review of Bleach 491: Toden Engel

    Poll:

    How much do you like Bleach?
    • I FUCKING LOVE BLEACH!!!
    • I occasionally enjoy Bleach
    • I take Bleach 2 times a week 3 chapters each
    • Bleach? I've never heard of that pokemon before

    ---------- Post added at 04:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:02 PM ----------

    updated OP.

    /off to PM Otaku to post the review

    ---------- Post added at 04:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:06 PM ----------

    Meanwhile you can subscribe in the 492 thread.

    And don't make me PM you again to remind you to subscribe

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    Posted

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    Its sad how easy it was to hate this chapter of Bleach

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