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    Re: Kabuto vs Tobi

    Also, if he were to leave the battlefield - then surely (going by the rules used for the other fights in this forum) that counts as a loss. he has to remain present at the battlefield to be counted in this fight (unless the OP decides to change the rules for this fight? In which case Tobi can just go to his hidden dimension and wait till Kabuto forgets about the fight, then kill him in his sleep)

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    Re: Kabuto vs Tobi

    Tobi wins. BEcause kabuto doesn't have the power to escape from tobi's jutsu.

    Tobi doesn't need to fight all the ET of kabuto. He can go directly to kabuto and kick his snake ass. Intangible jutsu + soul eater = dead in an instanty.

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    Re: Kabuto vs Tobi

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    Problem being for Tobi, he can only remain a ghost for five minutes. In addition, to preform any physical attack, he'll have to go solid. We've seen multiple people take advantage of those facts in order to touch and land a hit on him, even when they didn't have all the information. So Tobi will have to risk being hit in order to land a finishing hit himself. With his sensoring ability, Kabuto would be aware of Tobi when he's solid, meaning it'll be very hard for Tobi to catch Kabuto off guard.

    dude, all he has to do is, go intangible go underground pop back up in the clear and go to another country and have a drink... i highly doubt that Kabuto sleeps in Sage mood.... FAIL!


    whats needed to defeat Tobi is not just power, i think in the end that sword of Iatchi is needed to finish him off..he needs to be sealed



    Quote Originally Posted by zimbardo View Post
    Also, if he were to leave the battlefield - then surely (going by the rules used for the other fights in this forum) that counts as a loss. he has to remain present at the battlefield to be counted in this fight (unless the OP decides to change the rules for this fight? In which case Tobi can just go to his hidden dimension and wait till Kabuto forgets about the fight, then kill him in his sleep)

    Rules, Smules, this is a fight between two people.. winning is the objective so the best strategy is the best strategy... patience and the ability to run away is something that Tobi should be allowed to so simply because it works best with his technique and makes him unstoppable
    Last edited by crimlo; May 13, 2012 at 10:22 AM.

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    Re: Kabuto vs Tobi

    Quote Originally Posted by crimlo View Post
    dude, all he has to do is, go intangible go underground pop back up in the clear and go to another country and have a drink... i highly doubt that Kabuto sleeps in Sage mood.... FAIL!


    whats needed to defeat Tobi is not just power, i think in the end that sword of Iatchi is needed to finish him off..he needs to be sealed
    Since his intangibility only works for five minutes at a time, and he must become solid in order to teleport away, Tobi has no way to leave the field without opening himself up to an attack. And you do realize that Tobi would have no way to be aware of what Kabuto is doing or what he's up to if he leaves the field, right? So he can't "attack while Kabuto sleeps". Heck, since the Edo summons don't require sleep or anything, Kabuto can easily have them guard him at all times, meaning the moment Tobi pops in to check up on Kabuto, they can strike while he's still solid.

    Kabuto has several ways to seal Tobi: Itachi with the Totsuka Blade, Nagato with his soul ripping ability and Hell Path, and the KinGin brothers with the Amber Gourd.

    Quote Originally Posted by crimlo View Post
    Rules, Smules, this is a fight between two people.. winning is the objective so the best strategy is the best strategy... patience and the ability to run away is something that Tobi should be allowed to so simply because it works best with his technique and makes him unstoppable
    That's not how it works. Running away means forfeit. By that logic, Kabuto can merely remain a liquid puddle and let his Edo summons do all the work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    Since his intangibility only works for five minutes at a time, and he must become solid in order to teleport away, Tobi has no way to leave the field without opening himself up to an attack. And you do realize that Tobi would have no way to be aware of what Kabuto is doing or what he's up to if he leaves the field, right? So he can't "attack while Kabuto sleeps". Heck, since the Edo summons don't require sleep or anything, Kabuto can easily have them guard him at all times, meaning the moment Tobi pops in to check up on Kabuto, they can strike while he's still solid.

    Kabuto has several ways to seal Tobi: Itachi with the Totsuka Blade, Nagato with his soul ripping ability and Hell Path, and the KinGin brothers with the Amber Gourd.

    That's not how it works. Running away means forfeit. By that logic, Kabuto can merely remain a liquid puddle and let his Edo summons do all the work.
    First off, if he wanted to keep track of him he has means in which he can do so... and Kabuto is not fast enough to keep Tobi from leaving the battlefield, now matter what argument you try and come u with, he just isn't capable of that.... Hell path would have to actually touch him for that to work.. not happenings bro.. and that Amber Gourd is even worse, its not like he's going to stand there and let that thing suck him in man.. you lose..... the reason Itachi's sword would work because its instant kill, so if he is caught off gaude with some sort of distraction it will be over... and ps: he doesn't need to be intangible for 5 whole minutes... 1 minute would suffice... this is how.. go intangible head down in the ground, pop up 1/4 mile away, go about his business, sip on some wine.. see how it works?.. Good Boy ... i'm sure liquid or not, his ass would and warps and raped.. FAIL.



    oh FYI: its not forfeit its strategy bro, big difference, its not like he's running from the fight, he's just looking for an easy win, cant fault him for that can you?
    Last edited by crimlo; May 14, 2012 at 07:56 AM.

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    Re: Kabuto vs Tobi

    @crimlo

    Can Kabuto leave the battlefield before Tobi get's back? If so then its a BFR loss for Tobi. No opponent is obligated to w8 at the fight location if 1 of the fighters leave.

    In essence doing what you sugest would imply him trowing the fight. For it to not be BFR he would need to return faster then Kabuto can leave the battlefield of have a way to keep him there.

    Aside from that i have to say that your post is absurd. You think he can just pop next to Kabuto and warp him? Do you know how many people this dude is going to have around? He can be my gues and try to put his hand on him with Itachi is right next to Kabuto rdy to Amaterasu Tobi's face off. How about Nagato activating his anti-jutsu shield and contering the warping and even Tobi's intangibility? He can't even leave then and he get's 1 shooted.
    Not only that when he actualy grabs Kabuto he would find out it was just a clone as he would have no idea when he replaced himself with a clone as Tobi left the battlefield lol.
    Oh end let's not forget the insane sensing SM gives... Kabuto is going to feel Tobi coming.

    PS. Are you actualy 36? Now that is imposible lol.
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    Re: Kabuto vs Tobi

    Quote Originally Posted by crimlo View Post
    First off, if he wanted to keep track of him he has means in which he can do so... and Kabuto is not fast enough to keep Tobi from leaving the battlefield, now matter what argument you try and come u with, he just isn't capable of that.... Hell path would have to actually touch him for that to work.. not happenings bro.. and that Amber Gourd is even worse, its not like he's going to stand there and let that thing suck him in man.. you lose..... the reason Itachi's sword would work because its instant kill, so if he is caught off gaude with some sort of distraction it will be over... and ps: he doesn't need to be intangible for 5 whole minutes... 1 minute would suffice... this is how.. go intangible head down in the ground, pop up 1/4 mile away, go about his business, sip on some wine.. see how it works?.. Good Boy ... i'm sure liquid or not, his ass would and warps and raped.. FAIL.

    oh FYI: its not forfeit its strategy bro, big difference, its not like he's running from the fight, he's just looking for an easy win, cant fault him for that can you?
    What means does Tobi have to keep track of Kabuto when he's distances away? The only possible means would be with Zetsu, who isn't involved in this battle. Kabuto in his Sage Mode appears as fast as Itachi and Sasuke, so he would be fast enough to land a hit on Tobi the moment he becomes open. Nagato too has shown he's fast enough to catch someone like cloaked Naruto, so there's no reason he wouldn't be capable of catching Tobi. And unless he leaves the fields and never comes back, Tobi would eventually be pulled into the Amber Gourd the moment time is up.

    You do realize that to travel any distance would take time. It's not even as if Kabuto wouldn't have the means to follow Tobi even while underground. All he would have to do is summon Hizashi and have him use his Byakugan to spy. Heck, Kabuto could go all the way and have Zabuza cover the field in his Hidden Mist, which would prevent Tobi from being able to see him while Kabuto and his side can rely on their sensory ability to locate Tobi. We already seen that Kabuto going liquid would allow him to get around the Sharingan's sight.

    And if that's not a forfeit, what prevents Kabuto from leaving to go make more of his anti-Mokuton poison, as long as he intends to return? It simply doesn't work that way, especially since as stated, Tobi has no means of being aware of what's going on at the battlefield once he's gone.

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    Re: Kabuto vs Tobi

    Quote Originally Posted by xXan View Post
    @crimlo

    Can Kabuto leave the battlefield before Tobi get's back? If so then its a BFR loss for Tobi. No opponent is obligated to w8 at the fight location if 1 of the fighters leave.

    In essence doing what you sugest would imply him trowing the fight. For it to not be BFR he would need to return faster then Kabuto can leave the battlefield of have a way to keep him there.

    Aside from that i have to say that your post is absurd. You think he can just pop next to Kabuto and warp him? Do you know how many people this dude is going to have around? He can be my gues and try to put his hand on him with Itachi is right next to Kabuto rdy to Amaterasu Tobi's face off. How about Nagato activating his anti-jutsu shield and contering the warping and even Tobi's intangibility? He can't even leave then and he get's 1 shooted.
    Not only that when he actualy grabs Kabuto he would find out it was just a clone as he would have no idea when he replaced himself with a clone as Tobi left the battlefield lol.
    Oh end let's not forget the insane sensing SM gives... Kabuto is going to feel Tobi coming.

    PS. Are you actualy 36? Now that is imposible lol.

    Yes Kabuto can do whatever he likes, leave come back.. shower, cry whatever..but you want to tell me that Tobi can snatch Sasuke in front of all of those Kages and no one saw anything and but he cannot do the same to snake boy wonder?.. this is too easy... i also want you to remember that Kabuto is somewhat an introvert, company is not his thing, having tons of ET guard him while he relaxes in his cave just isn't him and i doubt that he sleep in SM...

    ---------- Post added at 10:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:31 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    What means does Tobi have to keep track of Kabuto when he's distances away? The only possible means would be with Zetsu, who isn't involved in this battle. Kabuto in his Sage Mode appears as fast as Itachi and Sasuke, so he would be fast enough to land a hit on Tobi the moment he becomes open. Nagato too has shown he's fast enough to catch someone like cloaked Naruto, so there's no reason he wouldn't be capable of catching Tobi. And unless he leaves the fields and never comes back, Tobi would eventually be pulled into the Amber Gourd the moment time is up.

    You do realize that to travel any distance would take time. It's not even as if Kabuto wouldn't have the means to follow Tobi even while underground. All he would have to do is summon Hizashi and have him use his Byakugan to spy. Heck, Kabuto could go all the way and have Zabuza cover the field in his Hidden Mist, which would prevent Tobi from being able to see him while Kabuto and his side can rely on their sensory ability to locate Tobi. We already seen that Kabuto going liquid would allow him to get around the Sharingan's sight.

    And if that's not a forfeit, what prevents Kabuto from leaving to go make more of his anti-Mokuton poison, as long as he intends to return? It simply doesn't work that way, especially since as stated, Tobi has no means of being aware of what's going on at the battlefield once he's gone.

    First off there's has been no indication that he is as fast as either of the brothers, they are fight in a tight space and using ninjutsu so wrong, how he would track him you say? easily, mind-rape a good sensor type Hyuga and find his ass (duh)... strategy bro...mist? really?.. dude that's lame, as soon as the mist starts Tobi leaves on vacation, do some surveillance and kidnap the bitch, its that simple.... oh and he can cast izanagi on himself before he go on for the snatch which should be over-kill no matter who's there. ... i mean we are being a bit realistic here aren't we, with the right mind Tobi is unbeatable, deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crimlo View Post
    First off there's has been no indication that he is as fast as either of the brothers, they are fight in a tight space and using ninjutsu so wrong, how he would track him you say? easily, mind-rape a good sensor type Hyuga and find his ass (duh)... strategy bro...mist? really?.. dude that's lame, as soon as the mist starts Tobi leaves on vacation, do some surveillance and kidnap the bitch, its that simple.... oh and he can cast izanagi on himself before he go on for the snatch which should be over-kill no matter who's there. ... i mean we are being a bit realistic here aren't we, with the right mind Tobi is unbeatable, deal with it.
    We're currently watching him in battle with them and he's keeping up just fine, even dodging them at close range which would only be possible if he was as fast as them. I'm not seeing where you're getting this idea that Tobi is really fast from. We saw in three different battles that touching him isn't all that hard.

    Um, he can't bring in another person and that still wouldn't allow him to keep track of Kabuto. I don't think you understand how battles here are done. And surveillance isn't possible with the Hidden Mist active, as it blinds the Sharingan. Even Madara got blinded by it, which should say plenty. Since it would be coming from an Edo summon, and he has six others who potentially are capable of using it, Kabuto would have no trouble keeping the field covered in it. Nor can Tobi case Izanagi on himself. His only availible payment for Izanagi would be the Sharingan his warping/phasing ability comes from, which would mean he would pretty much be throwing away those abilities.

    No, Tobi isn't "unbeatable". Kabuto has a counter for any action Tobi could attempt . Your entire "strategy" rely on Tobi leaving for long amounts of the with the hope of catching Kabuto off guard, yet you're completely ignoring the fact that with his Edo summons, Kabuto literally has dozens of immortal guards to call upon to watch his back til long after he's dead.

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    If I agree on crimlo, then that makes me and him as best of friends?

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    No. Tobi for now is unbeatable. Intangible + soul eater = game over. Tobi can pop to kabuto and pull his soul immediately. And we don't know the other powers of his rinnegan. Nagato has 6/7 rinnegan's power, so tobi must have 3. And the thing is, kabuto doesn't have the power to counter tobi's intangible jutsu.

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    No, he's not. In order to physically touch Kabuto, Tobi will first have to go solid, at which point Kabuto will be able to sense him. And with his ability to turn into water and exchange bodies, Kabuto can avoid any physical touch from Tobi while his Edo summons attack. Heck, Kabuto can allow his Edo summons strike at them both since he would be able to endure it. And don't forget, Kabuto has two sonic attacks that would stop Tobi in his tracks. Keep them going for more then five minutes and Tobi would be open to attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshall313 View Post
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    If I agree on crimlo, then that makes me and him as best of friends?
    Well, it was just a joke because their way of arguing is strangely familiar... but no, I don't think you reach their level quite yet, even though I have to admit sometimes you manage to come pretty close. But that doesn't mean you can't become friends with them regardless of that, because like I said, I didn't mean it as an isult, since I actually enjoy their posts... even though most of the time for completely different reasons then the value of their content

    But please, lets not elaborate too much on that silly one-liner I made just for shits and giggles.

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    Hey land is ok but how about the rash part? I bet it's itchy...

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    Well... lets just say its not "Rash" as in skin condition but "Rash" as in fast, hasty, premature, daring etc.

    But lets stop this already... we are terribly off-topic lol
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