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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
Bepo was a victim of SMILE and that's the reason why he cutted his connections with Doflamingo
Doflamingo supplies SMILE to Big Mom
i doubt its shanks judging by luffy's amazing instinct even if law wanted to trick him and said it in a way that appealed to him i doubt hed comply. Id say big mam because eveything we've seen and been told so far it feels like its leading up to it like the big boss of this arc.
i really like you're theory about bepo, if its true itd make sense for law to go after her as well.
I think Law wants to take down Kaido. Wasn't it said Doflamingo was working under Kaido?
After the latest chapter and Law's speech being shown alongside Big Mom pic, I think He was aiming for her in the first place.
Well from this chapter, the gears seem to fit together perfectly. We've seen Pekoms and his weeeird zoan transformation, Law said there's a kou (yeah, using yonkou as a singular is weird ) who made an army of SAD (synthetic animal DF, I guess) users; plus there's this little business Luffy has with BM. So either it's been very heavily implied that it's BM, or this troll has overcome Tobito.
page you are referring to Oda seems to have tipped his hand. If anyone had not noticed, Big Mam is pictured above Law and next to Caesar on the left hand side of the page.
I also immediately thought of Pekom and his turtle transformation when CC revealed the secrets of "smile" to Luffy.
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before the time skip.
Last edited by Kaiten; November 29, 2012 at 01:11 PM.
I also take the last panel of the last chapter as a confirmation of Big Mam being the yonkou they are all after.
And it will just be badass if Law and Kidd are the big main brains of everything and are already having an alliance, and it will be just fuckin awesome to see Luffy, Law, Kidd, Apoo, Hawkins, Killer, Straw hats fight a huge army of smile manipulated zoan fruit users and finally also Big Mam herself.
brrr.... gives me freakin chills!!
Kid does not seem like the alliance type, Killer brokered the alliance with Hawkins and Appoo, an arrangement Kid seems only to agreed to grudgingly. A second simultaneous alliance might be a bridge too far for Kid to bear. Kid probably has his own agenda, he and his allies likely have their own target. I have long suspected that this saga will end with Luffy being proclaimed as a Yonkou, replacing the defeated and disgraced Big Mam. He and Law will maintain their alliance, with Law becoming Luffy's first fleet commander. I can not picture Kid in a subservient role, helping Luffy defeat a Yonkou. Instead, I expect he too will replace a Yonkou, probably Kaido. An alliance with Luffy and Law is not out of the question later, but not now. I don't think that would be a role best played by Kid.
Wait Nami got the vivre card from Lola right (Thriller Bark)
Lola said her mother is strong pirate.
Lola and his companions are from the new world
If it is right that Lola's Mother was Big Mom
Then they already got Big Mom's Vivre Card!
Wait .... but what's with othee supernova like urouge. Just because He didn't get enough air time e shiuldnt just discredit them or undermine them.
Thry should be put Into equation
I thought Law and Kid were already allied. If they aren't already then I don't see Kid joining up with the likes of Luffy, someone I think he would prefer to do battle against. If Kid is going after a different Yonkou then I will put my money on Kaido. Kaido is probably the reason he lost his arm since he is known for trashing rookies.
I would like the two Supernova alliances to join but as Kaiten-sama said, Kid doesn't seem like the type to be under someone. I would also like to see Luffy(or Law) vs Kid in the future.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Drake and Bonnie might join Luffy's alliance. Bonnie already had some encounters with Zoro and Drake just seems like they type of guy that would follow loyal/honorable people.
Last edited by GomuGomu_Getsuga; December 05, 2012 at 03:56 AM.
What reason is there to believe that Bonnie, Drake, and Urouge will join Law and Luffy's alliance? They have not made a single appearance since before the timeskip. And what does that have to do with this discussion anyway? The thread topic is "Which Yonkou does Law want to take down? "
We know that it can't be Shank or else Luffy wouldn't have agree with the alliance unless Law trick Luffy. The most logic would be big mam or kaidou but I think big mam is the best choice because everything is set up for that fight.
Looks like the Yonkou that Law wants to take out his Big Mam. You can see her lips as Law goes on his monologue of the change that's coming. It'd also go conveniently with Luffy's interests in order to protect Fishman Island under his flag and not her's.
It seems like Doflamingo is just another step on Law's conquest to taking out Big Mam(or w/e Yonkou he wants to take out)