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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by ZonikStrike View Post
    ^I think it'd be more like this:
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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    About next episodes :

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    About episode 43 :

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    Sorry. Forced

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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    ...wait. Tochino said to Kurapika that he was right (he was a Manipulator), right? Well... in this very episode he said that Franklin was "also an Emitter". Keyword being "also".

    Either A) Madhouse screwed up at one of the two scenes B) he just went along with what Kurapika said (after all, why reveal your Nen type like that?)... or C) It was a mistranslation.

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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    Oh, I have also made an extended prediction of the next episodes. Though I will probably fail somewhere:
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegamanX195 View Post
    ...wait. Tochino said to Kurapika that he was right (he was a Manipulator), right? Well... in this very episode he said that Franklin was "also an Emitter". Keyword being "also".

    Either A) Madhouse screwed up at one of the two scenes B) he just went along with what Kurapika said (after all, why reveal your Nen type like that?)... or C) It was a mistranslation.
    It's option B.
    He is an emitter in the manga...

    Kurapika just make a wrong guessing.

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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    I know he is an Emitter in the manga. I just said that because some people were saying that that was MH's way of "fixing" his type. It was weird of them to have Kurapika guess wrong when he guesses right in the manga.

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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

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    Ok I can work with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salce View Post
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    It's option B.
    He is an emitter in the manga...

    Kurapika just make a wrong guessing.
    How about this...

    He's both.

    Shachmono Tocino is primarily an Emitter.
    This is shown by him emitting the Eleven Thankless Heroes.

    However he also manipulates them. So he's also a Manipulator.
    Compare him to Franklin who doesn't seem to require much of
    any manipulation in his Emission ability with nen bullets.

    So Kurapika was half right.

    Tocino IS a manipulator. But that's only half the story.

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    It's like this

    Tocino can learn Emission to 100%. He can learn Enhancer and Manipulator abilities to 80%. 40% efficient with conjuration.
    His ability Eleven Thankless Children combines Emitter and Manipulator abilities. 60% efficient as a Transmuter and 0% efficient as a specialist.

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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    Well, that's true.

    But in general we say that a character "is a -insert the hatsu with 100% potential-"...
    That doesn't mean he can't use abilities of others kinds of hatsu too.

    For example, Kurapika also uses manipulator abilities to move the chains, but we don't say he is both a manipulator and a conjurer.

    Kurapika saw Toccino using manipulator abilities, therefore he thought he was a manipulator. But he is an emitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salce View Post
    Well, that's true.

    But in general we say that a character "is a -insert the hatsu with 100% potential-"...
    That doesn't mean he can't use abilities of others kinds of hatsu too.

    For example, Kurapika also uses manipulator abilities to move the chains, but we don't say he is both a manipulator and a conjurer.

    Kurapika saw Toccino using manipulator abilities, therefore he thought he was a manipulator. But he is an emitter.
    Exactly. If it could be said Tochino was an Emitter and a Manipulator, then it could be said he was an Enhancer, a Transmuter, a Conjurer... and that, of course, gets no one anywhere. When someone says that someone else is a "class" (Enhancer, Manipulator, Emitter, etc.), it means that's their primary type, unless specified. Kurapika just guesses wrong in this version. Maybe all the rage made him slightly dumber...

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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Salce View Post
    Well, that's true.

    But in general we say that a character "is a -insert the hatsu with 100% potential-"...
    That doesn't mean he can't use abilities of others kinds of hatsu too.

    For example, Kurapika also uses manipulator abilities to move the chains, but we don't say he is both a manipulator and a conjurer.

    Kurapika saw Toccino using manipulator abilities, therefore he thought he was a manipulator. But he is an emitter.
    Hm...True.

    Well Tocino is a Emitter with Manipulator abilities.

    Kurapika caught on to the Manipulator abilities. But not the fact that Tocino is an emitter.
    Actually thinking about it, it makes sense that Kurapika would think he's a manipulator
    because Kurapika was talking about controlling the aura that Tocino was using.
    In a way it doesn't really matter if Tocino emitted the aura or not because
    he was clearly controlling it and that was the real issue. Who was controlling
    the thankless children to attack the employees..and therefore who was the plant.

    So I do not think it is a mistake but rather a clarification of Tocino's abilities
    because simply saying he's a Emitter does not explain why he was able
    to control the Eleven Assistants: Thankless Heroes

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegamanX195 View Post
    Exactly. If it could be said Tochino was an Emitter and a Manipulator, then it could be said he was an Enhancer, a Transmuter, a Conjurer... and that, of course, gets no one anywhere. When someone says that someone else is a "class" (Enhancer, Manipulator, Emitter, etc.), it means that's their primary type, unless specified. Kurapika just guesses wrong in this version. Maybe all the rage made him slightly dumber...
    Kurapika guessed the wrong primary type for Tocino. But was correct in that Thankless Heroes uses Manipulation abilities.
    The point of the scene is Kurapika figuring out that Thankless Heroes were aura controlled by someone in the group--Tocino.
    Someone in the group, was the infiltrator, and they were ordering the Thankless Heroes to attack the group. Kurapika
    figured out that it was Tocino's ability. So Kurapika is FAR from dumb.

    Also given how Kurapika never actually saw Tocino emit the thankless heroes it seems kinda strange that
    he would be able to guess he was emitter. It's not like Franklin where it's rather obvious that the nen bullets
    are emitted from his finger tips.

    So...after analyzing it. I actually approve of this change.

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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    On the "dumb", it was just a joke :P. Kurapika simply had no way of knowing that it used Emission, as you put it quite well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegamanX195 View Post
    On the "dumb", it was just a joke :P. Kurapika simply had no way of knowing that it used Emission, as you put it quite well.
    Ok then.

    I see the manga as Kurapika making a lucky guess as to the ability but making the logical conclusion that Tocino was the user.

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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    There is a large thread to talk about Nen Abilities. And it's abandoned. Give it some love, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uriel View Post
    There is a large thread to talk about Nen Abilities. And it's abandoned. Give it some love, please.
    Well I was talking about an alleged mistake by Madhouse so I do think it fits here but which thread are you talking about?

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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by MegamanX195 View Post
    ...wait. Tochino said to Kurapika that he was right (he was a Manipulator), right? Well... in this very episode he said that Franklin was "also an Emitter". Keyword being "also".

    Either A) Madhouse screwed up at one of the two scenes B) he just went along with what Kurapika said (after all, why reveal your Nen type like that?)... or C) It was a mistranslation.
    I think it was a mistranslation.
    In Japanese, 操作 (Sōsake) means Manipulator, and 放出系 (Hōshutsuke) means Emitter.

    and after checking the episode I found that Kurapika clearly said : 放出系 (Hōshutsuke).
    Last edited by Beans; August 13, 2012 at 09:45 PM.

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