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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    Now that I thinked for a bit longer, the 48 episode title could be referring to
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    . But I hoped to see that in episode 47. Now it looks like pacing doesn't go up even a little bit. Tsuiseki from ep 49 title could probably mean sth like Race which could reffer to
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    . But I still don't get what Sword or even more specifically Katana is the 50 ep title about. I don't remember anyone besides
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    carrying sth like it. Tho Google also says Katana could be translated as Excessive...?

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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    48. The Virtue of Judgment
    49. Analysis Through Pursuit
    50. Comrade and Sword

    I wonder if Madhouse is saving the Zepile stuff for after the Phantom Troupe arc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsticky005 View Post
    This to me is just an excuse.

    There is no reason why Leorio can't be crafty AND showcase brute strength.
    Madhouse isn't focusing on Leorio's craftiness. They are only dealing with half
    of Leorio's character. Leorio may be a doctor. He may be the weakest in the group.
    But he's not this little delicate flower. At least so in the manga. Leorio knows how to fight.
    At least non-nen fighting.

    And I happen to think that Leorio is from the school of hard knocks.
    He's got the switchblade. He threatened an old lady with a two by four.
    He challenged Hisoka. He seems to know a lot about the mafia and what not.
    Sure he could have done his "research" before. But Leorio seems pretty
    at home in Yorknew. Gon is the tourist with talent. Kurapika is the stranger but he's
    able to calculate what to do. And Killua is the professional.
    Perhaps. It is an excuse. But it's the only explanation I can possibly think of, as Madhouse "disliking" Leorio is too irrational a decision for me to consider.

    Leorio's combat traits are rarely exhibited. Even though he has experience fighting, he's always shown to be outclassed when it comes to the battle junkies in this series. He's got street smarts for sure and Madhouse isn't making him out to be delicate. He knows how to handle a knife and can handle his own against many. But he's a lover, not a fighter. Hotheaded and impulsive, but ultimately soft-hearted.
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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Noonealive View Post
    I think madhouse is doing leorio's character a favor. The leorio fanboys won't be as butt hurt later on. =[] Logic.
    Now you're just being ridiculous. First of all what's wrong with being a Leorio fanboy? Or a Hisoka fanboy? Or a Killua fanboy? Or a Kurapika fanboy?
    Or a Chrollo fanboy? Or whatever. I thought we were all Hunter x Hunter fans here? I know what happens later on in the manga. But I'm
    still "butthurt" anyways. Why? Because "later on" is going to be YEARS from now. Madhouse has had several chances to showcase Leorio's
    physical strength but they have refused to do so for whatever reason.

    I've said a billion times before that I compare both series to the manga.
    I criticize the 99 when it misses the mark and I will criticize
    the 2011 when it misses the mark as well. Which it did.


    Quote Originally Posted by Popo View Post
    48. The Virtue of Judgment
    49. Analysis Through Pursuit
    50. Comrade and Sword

    I wonder if Madhouse is saving the Zepile stuff for after the Phantom Troupe arc.
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    Perhaps. It is an excuse. But it's the only explanation I can possibly think of, as Madhouse "disliking" Leorio is too irrational a decision for me to consider.

    Leorio's combat traits are rarely exhibited. Even though he has experience fighting, he's always shown to be outclassed when it comes to the battle junkies in this series. He's got street smarts for sure and Madhouse isn't making him out to be delicate. He knows how to handle a knife and can handle his own against many. But he's a lover, not a fighter. Hotheaded and impulsive, but ultimately soft-hearted.
    When did I EVER say Madhouse dislikes Leorio? I'm quite sure I haven't said anything like
    that so please do not argue as if I have unless you can provide a quote where I actually said that.

    Madhouse is doing one of two things either

    1. Intentionally editing Leorio's character
    2. Unintentionally editing Leorio's character due to poor pacing.

    Either way both do not sit well with me.

    The intentional editing of characters is what I found bothersome with the 99 series and now it looks like 2011 will do the same.

    Why is it such a crime to want the anime series based off the manga...to actually follow the manga?


    Leorio may be a lover. But that doesn't mean they need to edit out his "brute strength".


    Honestly, if they were doing the same thing to certain other characters people would have a fit. I'm surprised so few seem to care about Leorio
    because for a moment I thought Leorio was HUGELY popular here. But maybe they only like that "soft hearted" side of Leorio.
    But I don't want to have to settle for one half of Leorio. I want the entire characterization as Togashi designed and Togashi designed
    Leorio as someone who although rarely DOES have combat traits.

    What if they skipped.

    Gon's sense of smelll

    Killua's cat faces

    Kurapika's argumentative nature

    Hisoka's getting "excited"

    Chrollo's love of books.

    Wing's clumsiness

    Kastro's playfulness when talking to Killua

    etc


    Togashi has made the characters the way they are in the manga and that's the way I like them and like for them to be in the anime.
    I don't want them to only focus on certain aspects because Togashi did not make the characters as so. Togashi made complex characters.

    I want Madhouse to showcase that.

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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    Quote Quote:
    Episode 47: Restriction And Vow
    Episode 48: The Effect Of Connoisseur (Zepile? Isn't it too soon?)
    Episode 49: Analysis On Pursuit (Again, already?)
    Episode 50: Friends And Sword (Wtf is going on?)
    Here's my guess.

    47:

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    48:

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    49:
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    50:
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    Though all this seems a little too fast?

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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    and I will be furious if Madhouse skips over the events of Volume 10.

    I want HxH. Not the Kurapika Kurta Korner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsticky005 View Post
    Now you're just being ridiculous. First of all what's wrong with being a Leorio fanboy? Or a Hisoka fanboy? Or a Killua fanboy? Or a Kurapika fanboy?
    Or a Chrollo fanboy? Or whatever. I thought we were all Hunter x Hunter fans here? I know what happens later on in the manga. But I'm
    still "butthurt" anyways. Why? Because "later on" is going to be YEARS from now. Madhouse has had several chances to showcase Leorio's
    physical strength but they have refused to do so for whatever reason.

    I've said a billion times before that I compare both series to the manga.
    I criticize the 99 when it misses the mark and I will criticize
    the 2011 when it misses the mark as well. Which it did.




    When did I EVER say Madhouse dislikes Leorio? I'm quite sure I haven't said anything like
    that so please do not argue as if I have unless you can provide a quote where I actually said that.

    Madhouse is doing one of two things either

    1. Intentionally editing Leorio's character
    2. Unintentionally editing Leorio's character due to poor pacing.

    Either way both do not sit well with me.

    The intentional editing of characters is what I found bothersome with the 99 series and now it looks like 2011 will do the same.

    Why is it such a crime to want the anime series based off the manga...to actually follow the manga?


    Leorio may be a lover. But that doesn't mean they need to edit out his "brute strength".


    Honestly, if they were doing the same thing to certain other characters people would have a fit. I'm surprised so few seem to care about Leorio
    because for a moment I thought Leorio was HUGELY popular here. But maybe they only like that "soft hearted" side of Leorio.
    But I don't want to have to settle for one half of Leorio. I want the entire characterization as Togashi designed and Togashi designed
    Leorio as someone who although rarely DOES have combat traits.

    What if they skipped.

    Gon's sense of smelll

    Killua's cat faces

    Kurapika's argumentative nature

    Hisoka's getting "excited"

    Chrollo's love of books.

    Wing's clumsiness

    Kastro's playfulness when talking to Killua

    etc


    Togashi has made the characters the way they are in the manga and that's the way I like them and like for them to be in the anime.
    I don't want them to only focus on certain aspects because Togashi did not make the characters as so. Togashi made complex characters.

    I want Madhouse to showcase that.
    Nonealive's post was a joke,I guess...And i think Popo was talking about me when he said Leorio is disliked.

    It's true that what i said is irrational but there is NO RATIONAL EXPLANATION we can give.I think MH doesn't have any excuse.In Zoldyck arc we could say it was because they wanted to show the "power of friendship" but what can we say here?They add fillers with Franklin and the Hide and Seek part is lenghtened.MH could easily animate Leorio's arm wrestle part but they did not do that.It seems completely irrational to me.

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    Why is it such a crime to want the anime series based off the manga...to actually follow the manga?
    There's nothing wrong with that at all, but an adaptation doesn't always have to tell the exact same story as its source. I also dislike the omission of Leorio's scene, but generally speaking, omitting certain events present in the original story isn't always a bad thing. An adaptation can even become better than the original source because of that. In this case it was a little silly to have omitted a scene in the original manga, but perhaps in the future the story in the anime will be better because it omitted something extraneous or confusing present in the manga.

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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    My guess:

    47: chapters 81, 82, the remainder of 83 and part of 84
    48: part of 84, 85 and 86
    49: 87 and 88
    50: 89, 90 and 91

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsticky005 View Post
    Now you're just being ridiculous. First of all what's wrong with being a Leorio fanboy? Or a Hisoka fanboy? Or a Killua fanboy? Or a Kurapika fanboy?
    Or a Chrollo fanboy? Or whatever. I thought we were all Hunter x Hunter fans here? I know what happens later on in the manga. But I'm
    still "butthurt" anyways. Why? Because "later on" is going to be YEARS from now. Madhouse has had several chances to showcase Leorio's
    physical strength but they have refused to do so for whatever reason.
    I was being sarcastic and not that serious....Your the one getting out of hand. Your taking the way MH perceives the manga way to literal. It's good to look as the manga as a guide but grading the episode off the manga can hinder your judgement on how you perceive the overall story. I just didn't like the way your were coming at it. Your coming off way to manga biased. It's just the little gripe i have with your phrasing probably.. =[]

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    If Madhouse added a filler scene with Leorio punching something, mrsticky, you'd gripe about that too. There's no way to appease you if anything strays from the manga. An adaptation is an adaptation. If you want the manga, read the manga. They are two different mediums of entertainment.

    Think about it this way, when
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    I feel like having another 10 minutes of armwrestling would've been too much. We've had little of Gon, Killua, and Leorio... and I don't want to see them armwrestling every time they appear. We know they're strong. They're just hustling some random street folks. The whole point of the armwrestling sequence is to one, introduce the strength of the Phantom Troupe; and two, a way for to earn money towards Greed Island. It's not to showcase Gon and Leorio's strength.

    I can't this has lasted so long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noonealive View Post
    I was being sarcastic and not that serious....Your the one getting out of hand. Your taking the way MH perceives the manga way to literal. It's good to look as the manga as a guide but grading the episode off the manga can hinder your judgement on how you perceive the overall story. I just didn't like the way your were coming at it. Your coming off way to manga biased. It's just the little gripe i have with your phrasing probably.. =[]
    Well sorry, I couldn't tell you were being sarcastic. Anyhow, I've said a million times before that I am "manga biased" (though not in those exact words.)
    I want Madhouse to animate the manga. Not tell their own HxH story like with the 1999 HxH did. The more Madhouse changes stuff the less it becomes
    the animation of the manga that I want and more the Madhouse story of HxH that I don't want. This isn't the first time Madhouse has changed stuff
    and I have complained before but I'm complaining especially now because it seems to be happening more often in this arc.


    Quote Originally Posted by xScar View Post
    If Madhouse added a filler scene with Leorio punching something, mrsticky, you'd gripe about that too. There's no way to appease you if anything strays from the manga. An adaptation is an adaptation. If you want the manga, read the manga. They are two different mediums of entertainment.

    Think about it this way, when
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    I feel like having another 10 minutes of armwrestling would've been too much. We've had little of Gon, Killua, and Leorio... and I don't want to see them armwrestling every time they appear. We know they're strong. They're just hustling some random street folks. The whole point of the armwrestling sequence is to one, introduce the strength of the Phantom Troupe; and two, a way for to earn money towards Greed Island. It's not to showcase Gon and Leorio's strength.

    I can't this has lasted so long.
    No I wouldn't. I was the one who suggested they do just that. I do admit that I tend to hate the filler in the 1999 series but there's good reason for it...

    IT SUCKS.

    I know. Some people may think the battleship arc is great art. I happen to find it extremely boring. But with Madhouse while I can't say I've ecstatic
    about the fillers they are a little bit more enjoyable. Especially if they had something Leorio punching someone. I'm all for fillers like that. It's taking
    away from the story not adding to it that bothers me. While filler can actually take away from the story if done wrong. If done right it can be great.
    That said I can live without fillers too. So while they can be a nice thing IF DONE RIGHT I'm also perfectly happy with just following the canon.

    Of course they are two different mediums. That's why I want to see the manga ANIMATED. Manga doesn't have sound, color, and animation, you know?

    I don't think the arm wrestling scene would last 10 minutes. More like two. While that may be true that the end game was getting money
    I find that to be a rather poor argument. The end game of Heavens Arena was returning Hisoka's badge. So why not just condense all the fighting
    and nen training into an introductory paragraph have Gon punch Hisoka and then return the badge. Don't you think that would be terrible?
    Leorio arm wrestling scene is much the same. Do you read the manga? Because if you did you would know that Leorio arm wrestling
    had a point to it. It wasn't just RAWR LOOK AT HOW STRONG I AM!


    Quote Originally Posted by Demonspeed View Post
    Nonealive's post was a joke,I guess...And i think Popo was talking about me when he said Leorio is disliked.

    It's true that what i said is irrational but there is NO RATIONAL EXPLANATION we can give.I think MH doesn't have any excuse.In Zoldyck arc we could say it was because they wanted to show the "power of friendship" but what can we say here?They add fillers with Franklin and the Hide and Seek part is lenghtened.MH could easily animate Leorio's arm wrestle part but they did not do that.It seems completely irrational to me.
    I wasn't able to tell it was a joke and I thought I remember Popo quoting me. But I don't remember.

    Well I'm not sure if it was irrational. But either way I didn't like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrudeCross View Post
    There's nothing wrong with that at all, but an adaptation doesn't always have to tell the exact same story as its source. I also dislike the omission of Leorio's scene, but generally speaking, omitting certain events present in the original story isn't always a bad thing. An adaptation can even become better than the original source because of that. In this case it was a little silly to have omitted a scene in the original manga, but perhaps in the future the story in the anime will be better because it omitted something extraneous or confusing present in the manga.

    You're right that an adaptation doesn't HAVE TO tell the exact same story. But as for me I want them to tell one awfully close to it.
    I mean are we really going to say that the 1999 omitting Hisoka vs Kastro made that better? Well I suppose some of us would.
    But not me. I VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY rarely ever want anything omitted. I will take the good along with the bad.
    Though there's not much "bad" in Hunter x Hunter in the first place. But to me omission is like getting a watered down version.




    Ok so here's what I'm trying to say.

    I don't like the omission of Leorio's arm wrestling. To me it seems like the Yorknew Arc has taken the most liberties and I have found that bothersome.
    I would much rather have everything animated and have to wait another week or two for Kurapika vs Uvogin. While I have led things like the delay
    of Kite slide I think there comes a point in which enough is enough. My problem with the 99 series was the changes it made from the manga and
    I do believe that some of you had that problem too. I think the vast majority of us were very happy when Madhouse animated the full Hisoka
    vs Kastro fight. So it kinda baffles me that so many people are saying "Get over it. It's an adaptation." I mean it's like I'm arguing with 99 fanatics again.
    Am I a manga fanatic? Well of course I am. But you see the "Get over it" crowd already GOT their version. It's called the 1999 version. But for
    the people like me who wanted to see stuff like Leorio arm wrestling actually animated it's very likely that we'll NEVER get to see it animated.
    1999 did a still shot which while a lot better than what the 2011 series had...or rather didn't have...still could be a lot better. I mean...it's a still shot.
    Nine out of ten time actual animation is better than still shots. At the very least that's how I feel. Anyhow, some people seem to think that unless
    the anime is EXACTLY like the manga then I'll gripe about it. But this is simply not true. The manga does not show Hisoka vs Bodoro but I was
    happy to see it. Fillers if DONE RIGHT can be rewarding. But omission is pretty much a no-no for me. It's true that I haven't complained about
    every omission. Like with the sushi exam for instance but had I known Madhouse would make a bad habit of omitting stuff perhaps I would complain.
    If keeping Leorio arm wrestling means keeping the sushi exam then I'm perfectly fine with it. If it means slower pacing. Then I'm perfectly fine with it.
    I do not believe that I am being unreasonable. And no I don't actually expect a Leorio knife fight but I do really want one. Because it would be awesome.

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    No. They can't skip Zepile. It'd be their worst change so far.
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    Without that, it wouldn't have the same impact.
    And btw, Zepile is in the ending sequence! He definitely should be shown until this season's end. And I'd say they should cover his part of the story before episode 50 as it is only till chap. 89.
    If episode 48 is the end of
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    , The Virtue of Judgment makes much more sense. Though I hope Pursuit from episode 49 doesn't reffer to
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    as that should mean they skipped Zepile =O It could still be
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    If Katana could also mean sth like Surplus, then Friends and Surplus could possibly refer to
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    Either that or they could move the part about
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    here.

    As for Leorio, I'm really upset they didn't show his scene, but it did have a reason. I mean, if the 'mole' wanted to bring Gon&co to the underground auction to bet on them, he wouldn't want to challenge them in the first place as he should know how powerful Gon is. Now Leorio could suggest sth like "if Gon is too powerful for you, then fight me", but the MH edited storyline assumed that they still had no need to challenge them as they could have a much less risky and more profittable business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZonikStrike View Post
    No. They can't skip Zepile. It'd be their worst change so far.
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    Without that, it wouldn't have the same impact.
    And btw, Zepile is in the ending sequence! He definitely should be shown until this season's end. And I'd say they should cover his part of the story before episode 50 as it is only till chap. 89.
    If episode 48 is the end of
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    , The Virtue of Judgment makes much more sense. Though I hope Pursuit from episode 49 doesn't reffer to
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    as that should mean they skipped Zepile =O It could still be
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    If Katana could also mean sth like Surplus, then Friends and Surplus could possibly refer to
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    Either that or they could move the part about
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    here.

    As for Leorio, I'm really upset they didn't show his scene, but it did have a reason. I mean, if the 'mole' wanted to bring Gon&co to the underground auction to bet on them, he wouldn't want to challenge them in the first place as he should know how powerful Gon is. Now Leorio could suggest sth like "if Gon is too powerful for you, then fight me", but the MH edited storyline assumed that they still had no need to challenge them as they could have a much less risky and more profittable business.

    Getting rid of Zepile would be atrocious. Let's hope Madhouse doesn't do that.

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    Hope? They wont. It's in the ending. Clear and simple. A tittle isn't always about the whole chapter. Guys, you're sometimes too much over-drama. xD
    The Sky is pouring
    The wind is blowing
    The sea looks red,
    a surging sea of flames
    looks like the entrance to hell
    'Perfect', the captain said.

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    Re: Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

    Some very little preview pics for episode 47:
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    Ok, so going by those pics (just one is relevant though ) :
    Episode 47 will cover the entire fight. Since this scene only happen in chapter 84. But i don't know how they would end it. I guess this scene
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    + Hunting for your dream would be a fantastic ending.

    So i think, episode 48 will cover the rest of chapter 84 + 85-86.
    And then episode 49 & 50 will have the usual 2 chapters/episode pace.

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